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twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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One film which must have some really creepy stories behind it is Dracula 2000. It's a Weinstein joint prominently featuring Danny Masterson and a whole lot of women who haven't worked in Hollywood since.

Speaking of which, has Gerard Butler been implicated in anything yet?

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twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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The Dave Chappelle Netflix comedy specials feature some prime rationalizing about the culture of Hollywood.

To his credit, Dave sees how bad it really is and knows it has to change, but how seems to elude him because he still wants to look himself in the mirror and see a good guy. The guy who still clings to calling women "bitch" in a casual way decides that accusers have a "brittle soul" and that Iceberg Slim should be quoted as serious philosophy. Because capitalism is really the problem you see, not some guys who just want to get rich off the backs of women.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Probably a good idea.

That said, I've never heard of "babe.net" and I'm only seeing this posted elsewhere on sites like daily mail.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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I finally read the babe piece. Aziz did some gross stuff. The thing that makes this different from the other allegations is that it isn't a work colleague. Aziz drove her to tears but she didn't have to put on a happy face the next morning or lose her job. She didn't have to worry about seeing him on the set of other productions and wonder about her future in the business. As they say around here, she had the option to :sever:

If this were just about sex then Mike Pences rule about not taking women to lunch would be the right response. But it's not. The point is that women need to work and to be in public spaces without having their gender used against them.

So the "Pence rule" is wrong here. And Aziz is still gross, as shown by the babe article. But that article was about sex, not work. So it feels... Beside the point? I dunno, I'm not going to defend anyone who's turned this into victim-blaming time, but that's what I can pick up on with how this allegation feels different.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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GonSmithe posted:

My point is is that calling it “public shaming” and that the article “was reported terribly” is idiotic.

A public shaming can be a good thing, but... Of course it's a public shaming. I mean, duh. Grace said she's doing it now because he won the golden globe with a times up button on. She wants to shame him because he's not who he was pretending to be.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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precision posted:

That's been true since like, 2003. (Not making a joke).

It's true, nothing good has happened in the last 15 years. There is no reason to try for anything better. The time has come to gracefully accept the strong hand of God-Emperor Trump.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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What the hell happened to this thread?

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Alhazred posted:

2Pac was a convicted rapist and people still treat him as some kinda hip hop saint.

Biggie was a serial domestic abuser.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

Thing is, 30 or 60 somethings meeting kids, which is what 16 and 17 year olds are doesn't happen too much without there being other people, family, about to put the kibosh on that.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Darneille ist ein sexmonster:

Ja oder nein ?!?!

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Snowman_McK posted:

It was an interesting moment in public discourse when 50 Cent mocked him, and the reaction was vicious towards 50 Cent. Not the way I expected that to go.

It helps that 50 cent is terrible. Watch righteous kill sometime.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Franchescanado posted:

Let's minimize this type of language, please. Louis CK is a piece of poo poo, but I don't want to hand out probations for people joking about assault.

Oddly enough, I was going to say that we shouldn't compare Louis to Gary Glitter, who would legitimately deserve some kind of beating if he weren't already in prison for child sexual molestation.

twerking on the railroad fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Dec 12, 2018

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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I'm not going to read that, but yes you did, Mr. Secret Family.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Snowman_McK posted:

Oswalt tells a great story about how easily comedians lose it. It was on his blog. It's not surprising that he'd be susceptible to it. He'd just be a bit more aware of it happening.

I mean, he was also the guy who coined the terms 'brocialist' and 'brogressive' which refer to someone who's progressive right up until it inconveniences them. If this was a novel, that irony would be too on the nose.

Can you find this one? If you Google anything about Patton and losing, you just get pages about how he lost his wife.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Pro tip: You probably shouldn't be happy to see child actors on screen in things you watch. And not just because very few children are good actors.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/09/business/media/john-lasseter-skydance.html

After being ousted from Pixar for unwanted touching, John Laaseter has found a new sugar daddy in Larry Ellison of Oracle fame.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Yep. Maybe some day Chris Brown too.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Chris Brown was released without charges

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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DC Murderverse posted:

Pam Anderson is bros with Julian Assange, which is the sort of "hyper-woke" that leads people to voting for the green party not out of distrust for Hillary Clinton/dislike of the democratic party, but because she really resonated with Jill Stein

I'd figure the more pertinent part of that is that he's got some feelings about being charged with rape anyway. I mean, as I see it, it was rape to slip off a condom during sex without telling his partner or just plain have sex with them while asleep after being denied but I'd bet he disagrees with me and has been talking about such things with Ms. Anderson.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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kaworu posted:

...

I know it's upsetting to hear but it seems almost certain to me that Jackson would have molested one or both of his sons. These were boys that he had unrestricted access to, and may or may not have been actually related to. The (possibly vast) majority of child sexual abuse takes place within families for this very reason - because of access more than anything else. The people who do it are sick and vile scum and it's difficult not to feel tremendous anger about it... But it's a truth.

...

This is a really weird post.

The reason celebrities get away with stuff like this is because people read about them in a few magazines, hear them talk, see them on TV and think they know them. People think "Oh, that person is so sweet they'd never do that." I sincerely doubt anyone on these forums knew Michael Jackson well enough to say it's "almost certain" that he molested one of both of his sons.

And to speculate about a child molestation that hasn't been accused is super weird. It was weird to have people speculating about Macauley Culkin too.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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The Tribune article made something clear to me that wasn't clear before:

Louis CK is not currently doing comedy. He's babysitting a bunch of Bros who think it's funny to, unprompted, yell out things like "Baby rape." This is his audience now. They're not there to hear new, or really any comedy. They just want to hear him say naughty things about how laid low he's become by the matriarchy or whatever.

Before he was taking comedy to new exciting places. Now he's a babysitter. And if he ever strays from that position and forgets to genuflect to their ideology, they'll drop him in a second and he'll really have to get a job at a gas station or something.

I now feel comfortable ignoring him in spite of whatever money he gets from these lovely secret shows.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Judakel posted:


You're not supposed to in order to write a piece. Louis CK doesn't care if you think his jokes are offensive.

He absolutely does. If it's not offensive his new audience doesn't give a poo poo.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Pachylad posted:

I think you meant As I Lay Dying instead?


quote:

Guitarist Nick Hipa said that at first, he wasn't open to hearing Lambesis' apologies, referring to an interview the singer gave before his sentencing that amounted to "one long excuse."

"That's the moment that whatever shred of empathy I had for him turned into just blind hatred," he said.

But when they met in person for the first time since Lambesis' release, Hipa said he saw a changed man.

"It took all of those years, him facing punishment and the consequences for his actions, living in the ruin that he made for himself," Hipa said. "What he did was very public and it cannot be forgotten and it shouldn't. But that's part of what he has to endure for the rest of his life."

I.e., the attempted wife murderer still owns the rights to the band name and that's what makes the money these days

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Sucrose posted:

Too much power concentrated in too few hands, combined with too little accountability. IMO Hollywood bosses verbally abusing and treating their subordinates like garbage is unsurprising and both it and the sex abuse are fruits of that same tree.

This is also a school thing. Acting coaches and teachers can be huge dicks because everyone wants to be an actor.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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Rhyno posted:

There's actual rape in Revenge of the Nerds and it's played 100% for laughs.

John Stamos apparently did that in real life and told it as an amusing anecdote in an interview

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twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

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MeinPanzer posted:

The French are so weird because they’re liberal when it comes to sex and sexuality but despite their prominent tradition of public philosophical debate they’re almost entirely unreflective when it comes to power relations and sex. See also the MeToo movement being actively resisted by both prominent men and women in France.

You should see how it goes re: race. In the same breath as the riots for freedom and bread in the French revolution, there were riots about the price of sugar, which shot up only due to the beginnings of the Haitian revolution.

Which isn't too say that the French aren't more liberal towards race than say America, but there are other things even today like the French banks of Africa.

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