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Yeah, how come we’re not talking about Zack Snyder’s obvious thing for closeups of buff women screaming while they powerlift and throw objects? /s There’s also a discussion to be had about using sexualization/nudity/graphic presentation thereof as a stylistic or cinematic choice, and not just “the director wanted to see her in her underwear” or “producers thought the boobs would help sell tickets/promote notoriety”, etc. There are legitimate reasons to deliberately titillate or alienate an audience, or to use the presentation of something to elicit a response from the viewer. Ironically, we’re so inured to female/afab-bodied nudity/sexualization in media that one of the best examples of this is when filmmakers/theater directors choose to show full-frontal dick+balls.
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Skwirl posted:Good thing no one said that. Rose McGowan said everything bad that happened to her was done by a Democrat, and that is probably true Yeah, but she also said that Larry Elder would be a better, more trustworthy governor for California and I think everybody here—no matter how they feel about democrats—would agree that that’s very untrue Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Pretty sure McGowan is only allying with Elder here because every single ostensibly liberal news outlet and authority is busy trying to save Newsom’s rear end from getting recalled, and already made the calculation that they didn’t want to give airtime to a story that could sink gavin for good because they care more about team sports than morality Yes, a man who wants to ban abortion and outlaw mask+vax mandates in schools is the moral choice, it’s only team sports beep boop trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Sep 13, 2021 |
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Skwirl posted:Yeah Quentin Tarantino's character is not supposed to be sympathetic in any way. If Tarantino didn’t want the audience to agree with or sympathize with that character then why play him in a film? Why is he featured on the poster? Why write a character like that at all? /s
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#NotMySteven
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Charlz Guybon posted:Self described? If you had to fake being the great grandson of a star from the 20-30s, why would you pick Moe Howard? https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/...ulative-fiction (Jason Colavito is a cool pseudoscience/pseudoarchaeology debunker—he’s not my original source for learning about the time the History Channel based an entire season of a show called Hunting Hitler around a photo of Moe, but this blog entry was the first best thing that popped up when I googled it)
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Phylodox posted:I don’t know what kind of people they are, and I always feel like anyone judging people (celebrities or otherwise) based on their acrimonious divorce proceedings is kind of poor form. No one is going to look good in a snapshot from one of the worst times in their life, especially when much of what you’re hearing is coming from their aggrieved soon-to-be ex. yes but in this case they both took each other to court, and now he's been taking a bunch of other people/publications/etc to court, over alleged physical abuse on both sides
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Sep 24, 2021 18:21
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ImpAtom posted:If only there was some way we could have known about his criminal activity earlier. If only he’d been to court for it two decades ago If only Dave Chapelle had made a wildly popular sketch about it and put it on a DVD with record sales
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CPL593H posted:I don't really think Dave Chapelle even took it that seriously. He was obviously not on R. Kelly's side but the whole thing was just "lol, he pee peed on girl." rather than going hard on him for being a monster. oh yeah, absolutely but my point was that people couldn’t say that they didn’t know all about it. Like I was 14 and I knew about it honestly the jokes are much worse in that context because, like you said, the well-being of the girl doesn’t even rate a footnote in anyone’s concerns like at any moment, it’s “lol he’s a pervert” people have been doing this forever—once you label or contextualize a woman or girl as a “ho”, be it to mean “sex worker”, “groupie”, “gold digger”, or simply “slut”, her well-being/internal state/consent stops mattering. Like it doesn’t even matter that she’s a literal child, she was there to starfuck, ergo she just a(nother) ho.
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Sep 28, 2021 12:11
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Considering Chapelle made a follow up sketch about how he'd never vote to convict and it wasn't that serious and put Rick James back in the public eye after the rape/kidnapping/torture charges, he doesn't seem to take anything done to women that seriously. Chapelle was also one of the big voices pushing the “how recognizable is one guy’s penis from another, anyway? I don’t think I could even pick my own out from a lineup” response to one of the prosecution’s key pieces of evidence in the Michael Jackson trial, which was an accurate drawing of the vitiligo markings on said penis by one of the accusers. Like, just on its face, without the element of the unique skin condition that Jackson had, that’s a such loving ludicrous thing to say, and speaks to some real “no homo” posturing Like some I’m so straight I can’t even recognize my own dick bullshit, wtf are you talking about
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I didn’t know Leary was right wing. I thought the worst he got was that cornball/cringetacular “I’m an rear end in a top hat” song from the 90s But Carlin was too good for this loving country
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Sep 29, 2021 12:58
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Vincent posted:Every year before the 90's had an undercurrent (overcurrent) of frothing misogyny. This. The 90s and 2000s are just notable because 1) most of us lived through them 2) there was a collective backlash in entertainment/media culture to the unholy alliance between the Tipper Gore Dems and Nancy Reagan GOP, specifically in the media that appealed to people like us and youth/mainly males The worst decision a powerful, visible subset of mainstream second-wavers did in the 80s and early 90s was to hitch feminism and anti-misogyny to “family values” and social neoconservatism, but I guess that’s one of the many evils of the Third Way Dems
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CPL593H posted:"Those are rookie numbers, son." of just that bit?
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this thread just can’t stop trippin’ over feet
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I’m shocked that a judge in Arkansas didn’t roll over for the Duggars. Their relevance and clout must be waning in the Trump era
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The Peccadillo posted:Oh no, what did he do, my mother loves that dude wikipedia posted:
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AceOfFlames posted:Isn't that just a soup plate? it’s a Nice Pete detail It’s like the “watch mentally ill men take long, cold baths without suds” of table dressing trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Oct 9, 2021 |
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I think framing this as a purely “mega rich comedian punches down from a place of relative comfort” misses a big part of the issue which is that Dave has framed this as a racial/cultural impasse. His whole thesis is “I don’t have a problem with trans people, my problem is with white people”, as though “don’t be lovely to trans people” is purely a thing in white (effete, “liberal”/progressive) society and black people (specifically black men, ie “real” men) are too real for that poo poo. Without going into a whole derail on misogynoir and black/brown-specific manifestations of queerphobia, or on the way that the mainstream media uses them as a figleaf to launder those viewpoints to broader society at large etc (there are entire dissertations written about the intersection between “the black/brown Everyman” character and blackness/brownness-as-cool/authentic), Dave did kind of the same thing with the R Kelly/MJ jokes ~17 years ago, and similar refrains have been used by the media to hand-wave away arguments about sexual assault and the treatment of accusers, LGB rights, gay marriage, gender violence, and so forth. If you want to take an objectively lovely opinion and frame it as common sense and normal to *everybody* in America, and not just white conservatives, try putting it in the mouth of a cool black guy. It’s an outgrowth of the classic “caring is for f*gs, and you’re a f*g for caring” framing, with the added flavor of “and also a Karen”. I don’t know that there’s a good solution to it beyond just platforming and elevating the poo poo out of trans PoC.
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