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Feb 9, 2009





Pedro De Heredia posted:

Speaking of people who we're surprised haven't been accused of anything yet, how about James Franco?

He pretty blatantly tried to have sex with a 17 year old girl via Instagram a few years ago.

people care less because he's fairly young, hip and attractive. I think he's a creeper and a dickhead, personally.

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Michael Bay's films read like a gay man making a movie to impress straight guys.

Kill Sizemore

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Apparently the writing staff of Transparent are considering writing him out, which is insane. Just end the show.

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Feb 9, 2009





colour me unsurprised, his schtick for the last decade has been to get really handsy with fans As A Funny Joke.

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https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1436117-jeff-goldblum

thatís flumesí gf in the photo, the same one whomst got their rear end ate on stage at burning man

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Feb 9, 2009





AceOfFlames posted:

See also: West, Kanye.

Imagine this thread getting derailed for 4 pages about West being a genius/mentally ill, with no final consensus. Now we don't have to do it for real!

And yeah, Christian Comic / Christian Musician is typically a red flag for quality, although not quite as brightly hued as "Christian Film Actor" which has emerged in the last few decades. It's really only a matter of time before these religious companies have the exact same problems as the secular equivalents emerge. Who wants to guess who's the morman Weinstein?

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Feb 9, 2009





https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1204800531274903552

here's the photo. if you thought he looked like warmed garbage before then you're in for a surprise - he looks even worse !

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It's not that different from bands that do cruises as floating festivals. Leto remaining in the public sphere is what's weird.

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Feb 9, 2009





Stranger Things S1 also ends with a 5 minute strobe sequence. Iím not epileptic it would stun me if no one had a seizure from it. Better Content warnings would be a really useful feature.

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yeah that one is a surprise, he was truly presented as one of the heroes of the show - a lot of the other people on it were kind of darkly intense or under the spell of a cult leader figure. He was just a really positive guy with a sunny disposition. Just goes to show that it's not always shady dudes in trenchcoats.

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Skwirl posted:

I was in my early thirties when that was in the news, and I just remember trying to picture what my friends and families reactions would be if I showed up to a potluck or game night or something with a 14 year old "date."

He would also call the school and have them pull girls he was interested in out of class so he could talk to them on the phone.

If you're early 30s, you were probably around 14 when 9/11, Take Off Your Pants and Jacket and Dragon Ball Z were all fresh topics. Think about that version of you dealing with a 32 year old.

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Feb 9, 2009





Depp is still in DIOR ads he's ... not starving. I'm pretty sure this story well fade in a year or two and he'll get some good roles again. He's capable of good work when he's not doing gimmicks.

Rowling loving sucks and the hatred towards her is leaking out from online spaces. Twitter is seriously out for her blood, to the point where this is mandatory for Twitter usage:



And that still doesn't block everything! It's overwhelming how much she's despised on there. The Galbraith stuff is just pathological at this point. Just go live in your castle and shut up.

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Depp is also nearing 60 so it's not unreasonable that he's no longer a blockbuster mega star. He's honestly had a pretty good run.

He's still a big draw for a lot of people, I'd put him near, but below, Tom Cruise or Keanu Reeves as the sort of actor referred to like "i'm going to see the new [actor name] movie".

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He did go away for a few mohts, it was definitely damaging to his career. if you google "aziz ansari" the first result is "the humiliation of Aziz Ansari". #3 is a vox article about it. His last netflix show addresses it, apparently. Though, the fact that he has a more recent netflix show kind of shows he'll probably be OK.

I still think he's a creep and it's pretty clear he's trying to remodel his persona. The sharp suits got replaced with a band shirt and some vans.

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the worst take? did you miss the Bari Weiss one?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/opinion/aziz-ansari-babe-sexual-harassment.html

quote:

Aziz Ansari Is Guilty. Of Not Being a Mind Reader.

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Depp comes out of this with an eight figure paycheck, no work to do, rid of his abusive partner and thousands of new MRA fans.

The story pivoting to being "support Depp, he's a victim" reeks of misogyny - there's very little chance (in my speculation) he wasn't awful to her as well. Two wrongs do not make a right, and pretending that he's squeaky clean in all of this is very very dubious.

Movie stars don't ask to be role models, but it's part of the job, and this would be unacceptable at a gamestop, let alone leading roles that command EIGHT FIGURES.

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Feb 9, 2009





https://twitter.com/triplej/status/1338328770558611458

things mounting against LaBeouf...

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At this point it's gross and bizarre but we're all basically glad it's not yet another child molester. "Actor great-grandson of billionaire" is like going to JRTOC for pedophiles. Condolences to the poor women it sounds like the dude has scared half to death.

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Feb 9, 2009





https://mobile.twitter.com/ldrinkh20/status/1350162561908539402

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Feb 9, 2009





LionArcher posted:

So this thread has me thinking. Has there been anybody that is super nymphomaniac but high profile (dudes or ladies or non binary) that haven't been abusive or it's been deemed okay? Like if you're super rich/famous and can do whatever, do some just hire a ton of sex workers to try out their various extreme but still consensual kinks/orgies? Revere Harem romance is popular with women for a reason. There's got to be some ladies out there that just have a ton of pretty men and women laying around their mansions right? Because remember these jerks that get caught aren't doing it because it's about kink or romance, it's about abusing power. The two dudes that come to mind that probably do this poo poo in a consensual way are Leo and Clooney. I assume they've had a poo poo ton of orgies but I get the impression it's because they like sex, not because they like hurting women. (Leo dating younger woman thing is something people love to jump on but they are all still consenting adult age, so I don't give a poo poo). Because the one thing I don't like about everything is that generally kink in some ways is now being looked down more than it was, or at least that's my impression in modern society.

Loads of musicians, it just depends on their image how up front it is. A$AP Rocky has a custom designed orgy bed. Kirk Hammet said that in the 80s - 90s he'd get off stage and there'd be a room full of nude women. I don't think for a moment that John Mayer wasn't having turbo orgies 2001 - 2008.
As for women on NB people, it's less common to talk about. First thing that came to mind was that Cara Delevigne meme about how no celebrities come out as lesbian, they just become "good friends with Cara Delavigne".

well why not fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Feb 7, 2021

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I watched the show and don't recognise those two. Jerry was way, way more prominent and possibly could be considered one of the 'leads' of the show. He's made out to be this glowing beacon of positivity the whole way through - a smiling face with a tragic background. One of the few people on the show who's not overtly psychotic or being totally manipulated.

Then it turns around that he's been busted by the FBI on child porn charges.

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Ronan Farrow must be really relieved he's got a different father at this point.

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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

I mean, have you ever seen the side by side? Its not like anyone needs to confirm it.

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Feb 9, 2009





I, an absolute arrested development manchild, had a conversation with a 17 year old when I was 22 and the takeaway was that they were basically a baby, with the interests & opinions of a baby.

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Judging a book by it's cover is all well and good - all-time terrible sex pest Weinstein is a good example of someone who looks the part.

However, Armie Hammer looks like a sunglasses model and is a very frightening person, Middleditch looks like the idealised version of a Genius Bar employee and is creepy in a rather specific way. Hell, look at Jared Leto.

If anythings it's almost worse when they're attractive, it makes you wonder what else they get away with.

Not everyone with bad behavior looks the part.

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Feb 9, 2009





Bassnectar's many-time collaborator Ill Gates put up a video with proof that Lorin (AkA, Bassnecatar) had ripped a big chunk of one of his songs for the title track for a Bassnectar Album. They'd done a half-dozen or so tracks in the past, but stopped when Dylan (AkA Ill Gates) confronted Lorin over it.

A bit of time passed and they did more shows and stuff together, but no more music because Lorin couldn't be trusted. From the way Dylan says it, he chose to play with Lorin because Lorin had so much pull in the industry and would book Dylan for massive shows and festivals.

So, someone that Lorin had basically stolen from, still felt that it was necessary to swallow the pill of working with the guy again, because he was really powerful in their industry. Bassnectar had a cult following, he absolutely had the tools and power to get away with this poo poo for a long time.

Once the accusations came out, Dylan dropped all connections with Lorin and has been a pretty vocal critic. At first he was on the "I never saw anything, personally" story, but over time he's revealed more and more suss poo poo that looks very different in daylight.

https://twitter.com/5_MeO_MaTT/status/1381282585175855107

Reading creepy manipulation manuals and success-win poo poo is a red flag for anyone, particularly a new-age hippy musician.

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Feb 9, 2009





Matthew Perry using an app as designed and getting shamed for it is kind of messed.

If I were 51 i would not match 19 year olds, but the point above about 19 year olds who grew up online and a "influencers" being different to a regular person is salient. She's clearly chasing clout. It doesn't seem like he really did anything untoward, apart from the very Chandler Bing "Am I old enough to be your dad?" line.

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Russell worked with both Clooney and Wahlberg, and i'm a little surprised he only got his face punched by Clooney.

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Apparently Trinh forgave him, and was already parlty blind before the attack.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-did-that.html

Grains of salt all around.

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I think because the story was "he attacked and blinded a man in one eye" when it (might be) "he attacked a man" which is quite a bit less concerning.

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GrandpaPants posted:

Boy those racist attacks aren't a big deal unless they physically maim a person amirite fellas???

Seriously though, what in the gently caress?

I know what you're going for here, but this isn't a gotcha. You are distorting what I wrote.

I'm not trying to minimise what he did. I did not say it was "not a big deal".

My point is that it is worse to beat someone until they are partially blind, than to beat them and leave them fully sighted. A beating that leaves someone permanently disabled is worse than a beating that does not.

All racist attacks are bad. Some are more extreme than others. Wahlberg is a poo poo person either way. His PR apparatus is likely trying to cloud discussion of this so that it's unclear if he did, or did not, partially blind someone in a racist attack.

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She absolutely nailed it when she appraised it as akin to being trafficked.

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Didn't expect to come out of the last 2 pages with a new appreciation for Edward Norton, but here we are.

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Feb 9, 2009





pentyne posted:

this is basically one step away from the "discussion is endorsement"

sometimes in fiction characters are mean, brutal, abusive, and unsympathetic. The alternative is to abolish any fictional representation of bad people.

I have spoken, in real life, to someone who said "it's time to tell new stories that aren't about horrible old men in the past".

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