precision posted:

I didn't say that it meant he didn't do anything or whatever, but having so many women formally put out a statement like that is going to complicate the discussion.

Detective No. 27 posted:

I already suggested car bomb. Certainly they already shot a scene of him walking into a car. If not they could always use stock footage. Or even a behind the head shots of a double.

exquisite tea posted:

I really hope it's not Mario Batali in 2017, this most iconoclastic of years.

Coffee And Pie posted:

Know what the difference is between those two kids and "helicopter parent" jokes?

The jokes have gotten old.

NTRabbit posted:

Wahlberg and Williams are represented by the same agency

therattle posted:

It's not that simple.

1) Cast agreements usually have a certain number of free days, eg services for the shoot from x to y, plus z free days for re-shoots, overruns, ADR, etc. It may be that there were more free days on her contract, and they used those, whereas Wahlberg's didn't have any left.

However, given how it is phrased that is unlikely.

2) The fact that they are at the same agency is not that relevant. Agents look out for their clients. They don't tend to give a crap about other clients at the same agency as they have no incentive to.

3) I am very surprised by this story. When dealing with talent their reps are very keen on everything being "most favoured nations" (mfn) as much as possible, i.e., if someone else gets something better, their client gets it too. So, if you agree a per diem of $80 for Williams and it's MFN, but it's then negotiated that another actor gets $100, Williams would get $100 too. I find it extremely surprising that after she said that she'd do it for nothing that her reps didn't say "yeah, she's in and won't take a fee but if anyone else gets paid she gets paid too on the same basis". Agents and lawyers do that almost by instinct; the first thing they ask is what others are getting. So that makes me think that there is more to this story than meets the eye.


Having said all that, there is rampantly unequal pay in Hollywood, undoubtedly. However, I amn't sure that this story illustrates that as much as it illustrates two very different approaches to dealmaking by Williams's and Wahlberg's teams.


Same agency, totally different teams. Being at the same agency means very little. I bet they had different agents and lawyers. Lawyers are very involved in the nitty-gritty of negotiating deals. Yep, just checked. No overlap whatsoever in agents, managers or lawyers.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

It wouldn't surprise me if the sending nudes was something her dad suggested since her dad was super-involved in her career to the point of costing her work by being too overbearing, and apparently was also a bit of a creep himself.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

There is a hell of a lot of loving and sucking in Spartacus and I don't even think it occurred to me that the gratuitous sex scene had basically disappeared from movies around this time.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

unless someone kills him in the parking lot he hasn't suffered any consequences.

DrVenkman posted:

I think apologising directly to the person is still a lot better than just issuing a press release to say how sorry you are. Throwing out a press release is the easiest thing in the world, actually facing up to it is different and to my mind at least, gives more credence to the apology being genuine. In Geimer's case, it clearly meant something to her and it's clear she harbours no ill will towards him or what he had said.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

What else is there to say about this but:

Lmfao

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

but at the same time, the reaction to him has been so extreme and he's been so widely hated for so long for other reasons that i'm not sure if a sincere apology a la Dan Harmon would have actually done anything for him. i feel like pretty much anything he could have done would have gotten this same reaction from everyone, even if this had been a genuine "holy gently caress i'm a bad person" wake-up call for him.

teacup posted:

Play this out. Honestly, what should happen to him and explain how it will make things better.

AlternateAccount posted:

Yes, Roseanne the racist who had Wanda Sykes as the head writer on her reboot. Truly some masterful subterfuge to hide her true nature.

Roseanne is a longtime idiot in decline into ever deeper levels, but...

Bust Rodd posted:

Yeah that’s not what YouTube and Apple say but whatever. Joe Rogan has more downloads and streams that Marc Maron and Larry King’s combined total estimated viewership

Skwirl posted:

CelticPredator posted:

Probably not because it was most likely actors messing around.

Detective No. 27 posted:

The "investigation" was run by a company owned by Patti Hearst. Hardwick is also married to Hearst's granddaughter. (Yeah, that Patti Hearst.)

Judakel posted:

He looks like a dork. Anyway, Spacey had that person killed.