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Isn't the "you can't say you're sorry" a legal thing, because you're admitting guilt accordingly?
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Tangentally related to what's going on, I found this article pretty interesting. Two youtubers had a show in the works, which fell through because the third party was a porn star accused of rape, and the aftereffects of that. (of course, maybe not having a porn star whose oeuvre is crazy-rough sex scenes would've helped them avoid that fate, plus the fact that one of the duo immediately went into the defense of the guy, but whatever...) MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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McSpanky posted:Who is this stallion, this Adonis incarnate, that Stephanie March wasn't good enough? I've had a low-key hate for Flay for marrying someone I had a not-so-low-key crush on. I'm glad 5he guy turned out to be a shitbag.
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Zogo posted:3 James Franco Accusers Share Allegations About Actor: 'I'm Terrified for My Career' The Franco stuff is hard for me to get a bead on, personally. Dudes obviously a bit of a creep (his earlier creep stuff comes to mind) and pressuring someone into giving head is not cool, but at the same time I'm not particularly empathetic over the women upset that most of the films they got roles for had nude scenes. Like, if you're that against it, have a no nudity contract. Pretty sure even the freshest of newbie actors can do that, and I can understand a director getting upset that someone who signed on for being willing to go nude/topless suddenly does a 180 over it on the set. And I guess this is more of a Hollywood Question, but can you really just say "hey let's add a group sex scene to this movie!" on the fly? I figure something like that would be a logistical nightmare. E: vvv I remember that, but I think I recall reading that it was more uncomfortable because she was in a raunchy/violent comedy and that was decidedly not her wheelhouse. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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DONT TOUCH THE PC posted:The power-imbalance in the industry and agents telling people that nude scenes are good for your career are two reasons why this isn't as easy as you'd think. No, I get that; I figured the power imbalance was implied, given what we're discussing. At the same time, I would hope if someone really didn't want to be Topless Lady #4, they'd use whatever degree of agency they have to cut off that proverbial branch before it buds. You sure as poo poo can't make it so a creepy director will never try and make you give him head, but you sure can make a legal document saying your bits won't show up on film. It reminds me of a story on the set of one of the later Friday The 13th films (of all places). The director was like "Okay, Lady, in this scene you'll be in the shower...", and Lady immediately put her foot down and reminded them that she's got a no-nudity clause in her contract, and no amount of coercion is going to change that. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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GonSmithe posted:The point is is that they’re not going to get work if they don’t do the nude scene. That’s the problem. That's a false dichotomy, though. Sure, they might not get the role of Topless Girl #4 if they won't drop trou, but there's plenty of actresses in plenty of films who've never done nudity, ever. It's not a career ender. poo poo, being Topless Girl #4 might be the kind of role you don't want on your filmography. Like, I get the fear of rejecting a part that might've been your big break, especially if James Franco is running the joint. That's the aforementioned power-imbalance stuff at work. But with concrete contracts (either way, nudity wise) is a slim/slight way of balancing that power. As we're learning, women are being taken advantage by this cesspool of a system left and right, so you have to take whatever you can to protect yourself. Sure, the best solution is not to make anyone feel bad for not doing topless roles, but that's a bridge too far for Hollywood. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It absolutely can be. Not everyone in Hollywood is an abusive oval office, and even amongst them not all have a great deal of actual power. Saying no to them won't be a problem. The fear is that by saying no to the wrong person you make an enemy who will damage or stop your career. That is where the power imbalance comes in. One person can kill your career dead in its tracks by labelling you 'difficult' and you aren't necessarily going to know if the arsehole you're dealing with in the moment has that degree of power or not. Especially if you're new to the business. I'm not disagreeing with any of that, which is why I said that in the very post you quoted. That stuff is bullshit and gross and wrong, but I don't see what an actor (especially a fledgling one like the women in the article were) can do about systemic poo poo like that outside of slapping a no-nudity clause on yourself and hoping that a casting director on the planet won't immediately hate you for it and spreads that knowledge around. Sure, you have to accept any regret you might have, but you're also avoiding situations where a director starts talking about orgy scenes.
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