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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Zogo posted:



More women come forward with sexual assault and harassment allegations against Harry Knowles
https://www.avclub.com/more-women-come-forward-with-sexual-assault-and-harassm-1818827581


Completely unsurprising that he did it.

Am a little surprised people took him seriously enough that such a pathetically lame try hard was able to intimidate people into silence.

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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Detective No. 27 posted:

"...But... but it's a dry heat!!"

-Anyone who hasn't been to Arizona in the summer.

This city should not exist. It's a monument to man's arrogance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


DrVenkman posted:

Yeah I mean Landis just comes across as someone who demands to be heard. Even after being told no.

Also, his thoughts that his AMERICAN WEREWOLF remake will have more to 'explain' about those locals in the pub who were clearly aware of the wolf stalking the moors is exactly what's wrong with modern screenwriting. The original movie explains everything that it needs to because that poo poo isn't important to the story.

Is what's good storytelling timeless and universal? Maybe what's important to the story to one generation is different from what's important to a previous generation.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


El Gallinero Gros posted:

http://www.cracked.com/article_25311_a-forgotten-show-warned-us-about-harvey-weinstein-in-1999.html

Huh. Shame it was such a crap show, people might have clued in. Then again, maybe not.

Wow, that is right on the nose!

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Well, I might be spinning wild theories here, but maybe if he hadn't raped a bunch of people he wouldn't have felt the need to hang himself.

https://www.google.co.kr/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/12/actors-suicide-triggers-backlash-against-metoo-movement-south/amp/

quote:

Actor’s suicide triggers backlash against #MeToo movement in South Korea

Julian Ryall
12 MARCH 2018 • 5:45 AM

The suicide of a leading South Korean actor accused of sexual assault has triggered a backlash against the nation’s growing #MeToo movement, with critics charging that it has devolved into a witch hunt that promotes prejudice against men.

Jo Min-ki hanged himself in the basement of his apartment building in Seoul on Friday afternoon. Mr Jo, 52, was best known for his roles in a number of television series, including “Love and Ambition”, but had been fired in February from his position as a drama professor at Cheongju University after eight women came forward to allege that he had raped and sexually assaulted them.

Mr Jo was due to turn himself in to police for questioning on Monday morning and left a six-page suicide note in which he apologised to his family and students, local media reported, although the police have declined to release the full contents of the note.

On Friday, an Instagram post by Yoo Ah-in, another actor, showed images of people being burned at the stake in medieval Europe, provoking a storm of on-line criticism from supporters of the #MeToo campaign.

The Facebook of one of the women who accused Mr Jo of sexual assault has also been inundated “with malicious comments”, the Korea Herald reported, with posters insisting she was responsible for the actor’s death and that she should have filed a legal complaint rather than making her allegations via social media sites.

Some have also taken issue with Moon Jae-in, the South Korean president, with an online petition filed on the web site of the Presidential Office demanding that he attend Mr Jo’s funeral.

Mr Moon has been an outspoken advocate of the #MeToo movement, calling on the police and government agencies to investigate any allegation of abuse.

“You should have been more careful before participating in the #MeToo movement”, the petition states. “Because of your words, the life of Jo Min-ki has been lost.

“You should attend Mr Jo’s funeral. He is also a citizen of South Korea”.

Mr Jo is one of the highest-profile figures accused of wrongdoing as the campaign continues to ripple through South Korean society.

Ahn Hee-jung, the former governor of South Chungcheong Province and tipped as a future presidential candidate, surrendered himself to prosecutors in Seoul on Friday to answer allegations that he raped two members of his staff.

Min Byung-doo, a politician of the ruling Democratic Party of Korea, announced over the weekend that he would be stepping down after a woman claimed he had forcibly kissed here after a dinner event in 2010.

South Korea’s #MeToo campaign took off in January, when Seo Ji-hyeon, a prosecutor, accused a senior official from the Ministry of Justice of groping her at a funeral when he was drunk. It has since swept up numerous public figures, including Ko Un, a poet who has been tipped for the Nobel Prize for Literature, and Kim Ki-duk, an award-winning film director.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


peer posted:

I'd rather miss art from lovely people than support them, thanks

That covers more than 99% of all the art ever made.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Snowman_McK posted:

Can you really not see the massive gap between someone exagerrating their characterisitics in a drunken conversation ('I pretty much invented that') and deliberately misleading someone about WHAT YOUR JOB IS and HOW YOU KNOW THEM for YEARS?

I capitalised the bits that I feel are important.

Hasn't this standard been used in Israel to persecute Palestinians? "He said he was Jewish!"

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Hat Thoughts posted:

wtf does that have to do with anything

The topic was lying and consent, so I brought up an instance of the law saying that lying negates consent and the results.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Anyways, to get back more on topic, this is super hosed up

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/12/mira-sorvino-casting-director-gagged-me-with-a-condom-at-16

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Bust Rodd posted:

If you wanna blow your mind as a US citizen try talking to UK folks who’ve got a normalized 16 year old age of consent in 2019. I feel like it’s way more common to just openly date teens as an adult over there, but that’s only anecdotal from the handful of British friends I have.

27 states have an age of consent of 16, including all of New England, so it's not just red states, so why would any American's mind be blown?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Holy crap! KPop apocalypse has arrived!

Big Bang was the biggest male group of the first half of the 10s.
This scandal has been in the news for weeks, but it was unknown how much Seungri was involved in the running of this club. The staff was giving girls roofies and bringing them to back rooms where they'd call up VIPs to come rape them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/12/entertainment/seungri-big-bang-burning-sun-kpop-scandal-intl/index.html

Also this guy just got busted for filming girls without their permision and putting videos online. That's become an epidemic here.

Other bigger stars rumored to be involved here. If one of those girls is really a member of TWICE this country is going to melt down

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/mar/13/k-pop-scandal-widens-as-singer-retires-after-sharing-secretly-filmed-sex-videos

Charlz Guybon fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Mar 13, 2019

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Getting back to the issue of sexual assault/harassment and video...

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/20/asia/south-korea-hotel-spy-cam-intl/index.html

quote:

Hundreds of motel guests were secretly filmed and live-streamed online
CNN Digital Expansion 2017. James Griffiths
By Sophie Jeong and James Griffiths, CNN

Updated 0851 GMT (1651 HKT) March 21, 2019

Seoul (CNN)About 1,600 people have been secretly filmed in motel rooms in South Korea, with the footage live-streamed online for paying customers to watch, police said Wednesday.

Two men have been arrested and another pair investigated in connection with the scandal, which involved 42 rooms in 30 accommodations in 10 cities around the country. Police said there was no indication the businesses were complicit in the scheme.

In South Korea, small hotels of the type involved in this case are generally referred to as motels or inns.

Cameras were hidden inside digital TV boxes, wall sockets and hairdryer holders and the footage was streamed online, the Cyber Investigation Department at the National Police Agency said in a statement.

The site had more than 4,000 members, 97 of whom paid a $44.95 monthly fee to access extra features, such as the ability to replay certain live streams. Between November 2018 and this month, police said, the service brought in upward of $6,000.

"There was a similar case in the past where illegal cameras were (secretly installed) and were consistently and secretly watched, but this is the first time the police caught where videos were broadcast live on the internet," police said.

South Korea has a serious problem with spy cameras and illicit filming. In 2017, more than 6,400 cases of illegal filming were reported to police, compared to around 2,400 in 2012.

Last year, tens of thousands of women took to the streets of Seoul and other cities to protest against the practice and demand action, under the slogan "My Life is Not Your Porn."

In response, Seoul launched a special squad of women inspectors who have been conducting regular inspections of the city's 20,000 or so public toilets to search for spy cameras, though some critics have denounced the move as a superficial response to a societal issue.

Lee Ji-soo, a computer specialist who helps women scrub the web of images taken without their consent, told CNN last year her company had seen a surge in demand since the protests drew attention to the issue.

"The most common things that the clients are saying -- and they are quite heartbreaking -- are 'I want to die' or 'I cannot leave my house.' Especially the victims of spy cam or illegally taken videos say that when they encounter people on the street, they feel like they would be recognized," she said.

In January, the co-owner of a South Korean revenge porn site was sentenced to four years in prison and ordered to pay a fine of $1.26 million. Soranet, which was shut down last year, was a popular site for uploading videos and photos taken using hidden and upskirt cameras.

Editor's note: This story has been updated to note the size of the accommodations involved and that in South Korea small hotels are typically referred to as motels.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Alan Smithee posted:

It was the small handed man who did it!

Trump would never get his hands dirty like that

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Polanski nominated for 12 awards

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51301829?ocid=socialflow_twitter

quote:

Film director Roman Polanski, who was convicted of statutory rape in 1977, has swept the nomination list for the 45th César awards for French cinema, sparking outrage.

Polanski's film An Officer and a Spy, or J'accuse in French, received 12 nominations at the awards, which are the French equivalent of the Oscars.

The Polish-French director fled the US after his rape conviction in the 1970s.

He has since faced other accusations of sexual assault.

Alain Terzian, the head of the Césars, defended Polanski's nominations, arguing that the body "should not take moral positions" in giving awards.

However, Céline Piques, spokeswoman for French feminist organisation Osez le Féminisme (Dare to be Feminist) told French TV channel LCI: "I am shocked. The 400 cinema professionals who voted for this nomination have applauded Polanski with 12 nominations - 12 is also the number of women today who accuse Roman Polanski of rape. This is not the field of morality, this is the field of justice."

The slow-burning Polanski saga
An Officer and a Spy is about the Dreyfus affair, a political scandal in France in the late 1800s which saw a French Jewish army officer wrongly convicted of spying. In September, the film won the Grand Jury Prize at the Venice Film Festival.

Two months later, however, French former actress Valentine Monnier accused Polanksi of an "extremely violent" assault and rape in 1975, when she was aged 18, in the latest in a series of sexual assault accusations against the director.

Monnier said that the release of Polanski's most recent film had prompted her to speak out.

This is not the first time the Césars have faced controversy because of Polanski. In 2017, he was picked to head the award's jury, but stepped down after the move sparked outrage.

...

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


DrVenkman posted:

I only just heard about her severing the tip off his finger. That audio is something else though, mocking Depp for trying to get help. She talks like an abuser.
WTF?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Holy Hell this is horrifying.

This also made me realize why I find Gigi such an uncomfortable film. The movie presents a horrifying concept (child grooming) as something light hearted. It's like making a romantic comedy about the life of Ted Bundy.

President Cleavland married his ward when he was in the Whitehouse and America thought it was the most romantic fairytale ever at the time.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


AceOfFlames posted:

And this is after they decided to cut a scene involving Pepe Le Pew learning about consent. So apparently that’s bad but adding a bunch of actual rapists to your crowd scene is fine.
The way the scene is described they should have kept him in the movie. Would love to see him get consequences for his bad behavior.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Magic Hate Ball posted:

Scott Rudin is a famous piece of poo poo and I hope he dies, along with the cultural notion that people in any position of power can act however they like.

https://twitter.com/RaminSetoodeh/status/1383963428377665545

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


https://mobile.twitter.com/katierosman/status/1385220565351505920

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Shady Amish Terror posted:

Communication is difficult even when everyone largely agrees on everything. I would say, as the thread often verges on derailing on the topic,
Doesn't the fact that everyone agree cause the derails? If everyone believes X is bad and should be punished there's not much more to say on the topic and people will search for other related things to discuss. One of which will be "Why"?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Skwirl posted:

And in fact when I googled her to make sure I was spelling her name right the top result is her saying the backlash makes her not want to ever do another magazine cover.

If you read the article it say she was overwhelmed and scared by the immensity of the positive response.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/billie-eilish-vogue-cover-reaction-173400970.html

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


I thought this was an interesting article that touches on the tooic of the trade as portrayed in some classic films.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1395189162605748225

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1395683403161391106

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


MadDogMike posted:

For a second I read that as Chris Hanson and thought To Catch a Predator had suddenly become REALLY ironic in retrospect.

Same

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Pappyland posted:

I dunno. There’s a non-zero chance he gets a trial re-do when the PA Supreme Court comes back with his appeal sometime in the next couple months. 😩
On what grounds?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

Tariq is a hotep elemential and recently came out with a documentary about how being gay was invented in the 1400s as part of a conspiracy to weaken black men, or something similarly insane.
The idea of homosexuality as a sexual identity was developed in the 19th century. Why not just go with that?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


What do you all think of the The Last Duel trailer that came out?

I remember this movie was announced there was a lot of online pushback, that it was a terrible film idea for the moment and antithetical to the Me Too movement, but now that the trailer is out I see a lot of articles saying it's very timely and representative of the Me Too movement.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


pentyne posted:

What the gently caress? The story is literally about a women who was raped who refused to recant her accusation when there was a ton of pressure to do so, and the end result being if her husband lost the duel she would be burned alive as a liar. The historical curiosity came from the fact that neither her nor her husband bent to pressure to drop it leading to an actual duel to the death sanctioned by the King himself.

I don't know what liberties the film is taking, but the book was real clear that despite any ambiguity in the historical record the most likely scenario was that she was raped and the assailant expected to get away with it. There's mention of the societal culture at the time and how women being attacked by knights were usually accused of tempting them and the 'trials' basically consisted of someone saying they say her smile at him one time, and the court ruling that she was a willing participant.

This was the general feeling of the time
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2019/07/23/ben-affleck-matt-damon-the-last-duel/

quote:

Yeah, it’s safe to say that a movie that uses rape as a plot device to explore medieval manliness is probably not the best look at this moment in time, especially given Affleck and Damon’s reputations around issues related to women

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010




https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1419178680480378883

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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Wow, I thought this guy would never see consequences

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1420133167864893440

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