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K. Waste posted:

I'm still waiting for someone to present a coherent explanation of why it's more likely that Jussie Smollett staged a hate crime against himself to... get revenge on his bosses?... than that he was the victim of a hate crime and the CPD are just mad incompetent and racist.

I find it really funny that there were all these leaks about how he was totally faking and full of poo poo, then the FBI took over like all the 'yea, get his rear end' people wanted, the leaks died except for a couple like, oh, 'the CPD overstated its case' and 'actually he may not have faked the letter' and 'in the grand jury the brothers testified that he did indeed pay them for physical training and that's why the only checks he actually wrote for them had his video project's name in the memo line and all'.

I don't think there's some secret Real Chud who actually did it, I think the brothers rolled him wearing hats and talking poo poo as a cover, he reported what happened, and the CPD went nuts trying to prove the mean black guy who doesn't like Trump lied.

The idea that this entire case hinges on testimony at the actual 46th hour from the two guys who probably did try to gently caress him up, that it was an elaborate hoax he paid for in check because he...wanted a raise...is so insane that I can't believe anyone believes it coming from the Chicago 'we literally got busted torturing people woops' PD.

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yea it's entirely possible that Blanket went through his life genuinely believing 'oh, no those guys talking about that stuff are just making poo poo up about my dad' and that was his first moment of 'ooooh gently caress no dad was probably horrible'. It's really a little ghoulish to start speculating if someone was molested based on just social media.

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King Vidiot posted:

I haven't seen the doc, but this is actually a good point. I believed the Christine Blasey Ford testimony because she was doing it live, unedited and had everything to lose by coming forward and speaking out against a powerful man in a room full of powerful men. An edited documentary is a different beast altogether, I mean I'm not saying these men are lying but... it wouldn't be hard to do retakes and edits to push the narrative the director wants to push.

I mean, what do they have to gain, especially with him dead now? Are any suing his estate? Do you think they stand to make enough to offset the trauma and roughness of speaking out like this?

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yea he's proven he's perfectly skilled at keeping his victims quiet as is without needing to do a murder of a major public figure who's super publicly tied to him. Kelly's a psycho who seems to have just been rapin and pissin his way through the last couple decades, but I think murder is a big jump there.

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MorgaineDax posted:

If he's completely innocent, why are they keeping his bond money unless it was a plea deal, but apparently it's not?

Because our hellass world is one where cops can actually just keep whatever they want and they knew a rich actor would probably be ok with them keeping his bond because it lets them save some face and muddy the waters.

The prosecutor abandoning a case they already got grand jury indictments for screams 'something very wrong happened here', that's not a thing that happens, even in cases they think they don't have solid enough grounds for. This only happens if they 100% know if something comes up in court they'll get the case destroyed and face a worse black eye than this clusterfuck would make.

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

It sounds like assuming the CPD is lying out their asses is always the safe option.

Those nice bunch of black site torture center managers? Up to no good???

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yea I think Lawrence's thing was he like, mainly focused on getting angry about women who gave bad reviews so no poo poo it looks like he's got issues with women but I don't think he's been accused of anything sexual

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Snowman_McK posted:

I'm not going to rewatch Serenity to find out, but this happened to Zoe a lot, didn't it?

yea, at least it helped that her designated savior boyman was her husband so it made sense for them to constantly be watching each other's back and all but yea

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WeedlordGoku69 posted:

...eh? :crossarms:

you realize women are, generally speaking, hella into ripped dudes too, right

e: like you realize Jason Momoa is pretty much considered the hottest dude in hollywood right now, right? looking like that Rob Liefeld drawing of Captain America, but with a beard and long hair, is more or less The In Look for dudes right now

like said it's not just about 'does this picture get me hard', 300 is not a film shot for titillation of women, it's a power fantasy for men, and the bodies involved are part of that. I mean if your point is just 'male gaze is likely the wrong specific word for this' then yea I probably agree but the bodies in 300 are part of the same kind of psychosexual stuff that 'make the super hero lady's outfit sexy so the cute boyman can be flustered by how hot she is' does.

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Pick posted:

Whoo-ee how about that Depp/Heard drama

I genuinely have lost the plot with this poo poo.

Was it that Heard accused him of abuse first, then he accused her of abuse, then he sued (is suing still?) some tabloid for calling him an abuser, and someone poo poo the bed???

I saw he wanted to fight Elon Musk because he thought Heard was loving him but I can't tell if he was just assuming or if she did.

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PT6A posted:

Isn't the meat and potatoes of the court case about who abused who? Great, the dude likes whiskey and coke, and I don't mean a mixed drink. Who gives a gently caress? I'm sure he's a fuckup, I'm certain he'd be a pain in the rear end to live with, but you don't get to abuse people who piss you off or frustrate you.

And, I mean, accusing someone who you abused of having substance abuse problems and saying you're the real victim... hmmm, where have I seen that before recently?

I thought this was a libel case against a tabloid? Obviously I agree 'he's an addict' does not counter 'she abused me' but I think the strategy may be to say 'calling him abusive was fair, look what an addicted piece of poo poo he was around me do you really think he acted like a prince when he was that high?'. If it is a libel case I believe they just have to prove there was reasonable reason to believe what they were saying was truthful and not some plot to hurt his reputation.

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Ah yea I've got no clue what the UK standards are then sorry

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'I did better discourse' is the most pathetic thing for a human being to say as some kind of slam

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welp there's a show I liked ruined for life. I hope his victims can get justice.

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yea the case is gonna go nowhere, the famous line is that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich if they want to, grand juries almost always err on the side of 'well this should go to trial at least' if the prosecutor has any amount of evidence to present or just has the ability to make an emotional case regardless.

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Yea I'm not sure where the narrative of 'only one of these people can be lovely' is coming in, they both sound like wretched people who treated eachother like garbage and should both be put on different ice flows out of society.

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yea not sure if that was pro or anti but England's hilariously terrible standards for a famous person being 'defamed' was prime for Depp, who basically just had to prove in court they didn't 100% know he was an abuser and it's bad to be called an abuser ergo they did a slander to him.

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pentyne posted:

Haywood's persona was being the family guy on the team, and for years everyone always joked about how he'd book at least 1 extra hotel day during cons to "get away from the fam" when in reality those extra days were for him to sleep with teenagers he groomed over social media.

yea I think one reason the hammer came down SO fast was the general factor of 'oh okay the dude who we joke about being mr family man taking a little me time on tour was actually using that me time to bang teens he groomed, awesome that makes me feel super good about everything'.

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yea isn't this exactly what happened (minus the assault stuff I guess?) for his post Transformers career? He tried to do some stuff, nobody liked working with him so he went into his weird performance art poo poo that he can do solo, and now he's trying to do movies again and everyone hates him yet again. He's gonna do some weird poo poo for a couple years.

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Alan Smithee posted:

Iím sure Frank Sinatra was abusive in his own right but in this case itís kind of a win by default

yea I think Frank was just generic old mafia connected scumbag abusive in the sense of probably being emotionally withholding and probably hit his kids and poo poo but hey dude looks like the better option now!

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Yea Mara's shared some fuckin heartbreaking stories that really do well to illustrate that on set poo poo is just a fraction of the absolute disgusting poo poo that happens to women in media, even as kids.

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well why not posted:

I, an absolute arrested development manchild, had a conversation with a 17 year old when I was 22 and the takeaway was that they were basically a baby, with the interests & opinions of a baby.

Yea I remember one of my first 'I'm a grown rear end adult now' moments was when I was like 21 and had to chill with my friend's 17 year old cousin while I waited for her to get back and was left with a profound feeling of 'you seem like a nice person but I absolutely have nothing to say to you deeper than smalltalk'.

But yea I'm sure Woody and his loving step kid have some real deep conversations.

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yeeea it's a bit reductive to call Freddy's OG story 'false rape accusations' on its own. The framing of it was VERY much a reference to satanic panic where basically the irony of vigilante justice to protect kids wound up literally cursing them instead was very much the point. It really didn't matter if Freddy was a diddler or not (he was, I don't recall any movie outright framing him as innocent but rather a very in character 'well...I didn't rape THAT kid no...' kinda 'denial'), the point was that the town weren't actually acting in the interest of their kids when they decided the solution to 'that guy's a creep' was 'firebomb his creep shack'. It was a very obvious reference to a real thing and not 'poor innocent white guy'.

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oh my bad I don't think I ever saw the remake so I dunno if they do something dumb there

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Endorph posted:

no.

it was posted on that subreddit. that does not mean it 'came' from that subreddit.

and also, the only thing that person is rejecting is claims of pedophilia.

https://twitter.com/R_X_Queen/status/1373838328731217922

'the only thing 100% refutable is claims of pedophilia, which she did not make.'

being faux-woke is a great grift because you can be as much of a sexmonster as you want and if people call you out on it it instantly becomes a right-wing conspiracy theory because you're faux-woke, so how could you have ever done anything bad!?

https://twitter.com/stories_nice/status/1373830403446951940

and heres an accusation that, while vague, has ntohing to do with that subreddit or the original accusation

Yea people are tripping over themselves to play the 'wow yet another lying bitch trying to hurt an innocent man' game while ignoring that 'also I think he was talking with her when she was underage and poo poo and that's hosed' was just kinda one part of an overall 'this guy loves loving his fans who are like 20 years younger than him by getting all flirty and cute with them like it's a relationship and then ghosting them as soon as he gets his dick wet'. Like, it's not a literal felony no but it's a really skeevy way to behave when such a huge chunk of your fanbase is straight up kids and all. Like, if you found out some dude who had a kid's TV show back when we were kids liked loving women decades younger than him who were fans of him and who he treated like they were in a relationship until he got what he wanted, you'd go 'well that's a lovely way to treat people', right, even if it is good he's not diddling kids?

But Dan's a soft boy who makes funny dick jokes so people just make these wild rear end defenses like 'so see all the accusations were from these racists who just hate Dan...well okay nobody actually accused him of loving kids but he DIDN'T, so there'.

Also for context on that last tweet, that lady was literally Dan's personal assistant so if she's still saying 'nah gently caress this guy' I trust that source.

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Groovelord Neato posted:

I didn't realize this guy was 42 I assumed he was late 20s or something. How is any video game guy older than me.

to be fair before this poo poo part of his charm was having not played a video game past the SNES era so he never exactly hid his video game boomer status but yea dude's creeping on women literally half his age which again is not illegal but is gross and dumb

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a Tibetan monk sat in un-interrupted meditation 24/7 on the concept of 'pedophile' and that guy was formed as the monk's final breath escaped his lips

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yea I get why an actual news site can't just post that pic and go 'okay we all agree this dude wants to do disgusting things to children's feet right? Like, before we even start the article we all can just feel that coming off him?' but boy would it be funny if one just bit the bullet and treated one of these assholes like they deserve with a big headline of 'local pedophile finally removed from show where he was surrounded with underaged people who he had power over' or something.

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also you can just not write a fawning article about a guy who, at the most overly even-handed, was very clearly and justifiably accused of being a sexmonster and now is returning to the industry where he's surrounded by kids. It feels like you can at least have a better tone than 'ain't he a quirky guy???'

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

IIRC a rival collector ratted him out and purposely set him up or something outrageous like that

yea the Pee Wee thing is a really weird story that seems (from the few times I looked it up and all) he was just a pervert of legal tastes who also liked to collect weird old porn and someone who was a rival weird old porn collector either set him up or knew he unknowingly got a collection that included stuff that was illegal and all and tried to get him busted. I don't think they ever actually found any proof he was out there buying kiddie porn knowingly.

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