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Predicting a lot of real bad takes from comedians on this Franken one
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Rhyno posted:Why? Because he's one of them? Have a lot of comedians been defending Louie? Cuz he used the "It's just a joke" excuse & when a comedian says that Adam Carolla, Penn Jilette and Jim Norton appear like Bloody Mary
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dont even fink about it posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...m=.a581f0754e2f https://twitter.com/GlynnMacN/status/932733897015783424
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Detective No. 27 posted:Morgan Spurlock outs himself as an abuser. Lil silly that Morgan Spurlock thinks he's someone's hero
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https://twitter.com/VioletPaley/status/950252181965410304
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STAC Goat posted:It was something about how he read that Caitlyn Jenner might pose naked in SI and while he respects her choices and everything she's been through "but yucky." Something like that but it was obviously more of a journey and he ultimately does like 20 minutes around that, the reactions, and his reactions. He defends himself a bunch, makes some more jokes including some about him hooking up with a transgender lady when he was younger, and then ends up with a story about reading a letter from a young transgender fan who was hurt by it and it affecting him and making him rethink things. The person who wrote the letter wrote a thing about how they feel Chapelle misrepresented them fyi https://medium.com/@tylergfoster/i-wrote-dave-chappelle-a-letter-about-his-terrible-transgender-jokes-55478970b9f
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Maybe it's an I am Spartacus thing Yeah it's that https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/twitter-protects-media-men-harpers_us_5a56a2f5e4b08a1f624b382b?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
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https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/954574729943404544 Hmmm...is that right Bill Maher? 👀
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So in this metaphor Woody Allen is...?
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predatory navel gazing is not that interesting
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precision posted:Pretty sure nobody sane is saying Ansari raped that woman. Not sure why you're hung up on that point. I get why ppl do it but it's so counter-productive getting worked up refuting an argument that exists somewhere. Like, why swat at ghosts? if someone here is saying something, sure, address it, but you're not constructing an opinion by continually adding to a list of things u disagree with
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Analytic Engine posted:There was some story about Grint buying an ice cream van, so hopefully that worked out since Domhnall Gleeson locked down 100% of the ginger acting market. So am I & while this is absolutely not the thread for this discussion...Humboldt ftw Hat Thoughts fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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Oof the actual interview is not any better https://www.yahoo.com/news/hollywood-director-gilliam-hits-metoo-mob-rule-112742135.html quote:"It's how you deal with power -- people have got to take responsibility for their own selves."
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Bust Rodd posted:Reminder, if you cant appreciate great things accomplished by lovely people: Allowing that this may be addressed in the latter half of htis post that i shall not read because I find ur avatar extremely unpleasant my advice for u is - cite ur sources - there's no reason 2 use "abused" in place of "cheated on" - nobody cares about John Lennon - clean up ur act!!
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Bust Rodd posted:Yeah cheating on your wife isn’t abusing them you’re right (rolls eyes so hard they pop out so skull)... lol amazing and actually if you read this thread then yes someone did say they were not going to watch his films. U should be clear in ur language use Bust Rodd
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Bust Rodd posted:Eye shud use cleerur langwaje ok bud Hmm well I'll try 2 explain clearly - altho my prejudice towards le epic racist Vrchat meme avatar may be blinding me I don't like the vagueness of using "abuse" 2 condemn someone when "cheated" is significantly more accurate. Although, benefit of the doubt, maybe ur just not savvy enough to realize the various loaded connotations that 'abuse" has in this context even w/o u sandwiching MLK between John Lennon beating children & Ghandi (potentially) being a pedophile [which is why I said "cite your sources" not w/e movie watching thing that I literally did not read in your post because...] Anyways, I'm sorry nobody cares about John Lennon anymore.
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starkebn posted:David Bowie hosed underage (consenting?) girls Origami Dali posted:Yeah, along w every other rock star from the past 50 years.
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Tornhelm posted:Also as she said, it was the 70's and they were probably both on drugs at the time. Robin Williams is a non-story as they were co-stars and she's clearly stated it wasn't non-consensual or a case of him abusing his power or anything like that. Lol @"virtue signaling" & she didn't say it was "consensual" (which would require - consent - & not saying "I didn't think it was a big deal retroactively even though I'm writing them into my memoirs"). Also, it being the 70s absolutely informs the power dynamic & Williams absolutely abused that power dynamic. You don't have to think it's a big deal if you don't think it is, there's no obligation to feel any specific way about this. But it's important not to misrepresent the reality of the situation.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:That's fair, but "Therefore if we are ethical we must relegate Robin Williams to the dustbin of memory" doesn't really seem to track either. I just don't see that as a practical fear, it's not like Song of The South has vanished from people's consciousness despite Disney's efforts to sweep it under the rug I mean, historically, the people actually in danger of being erased or muted out of history have always been those within marginalized communities, those who have long operated within the dominant culture r usually fine. I mean that's the whole concept behind #Metoo right? Like, finally recognizing a voice and a history that's been papered over or effectively ignored. My feelings are that it's important to make these issues heard, immediately remove people who actively create or perpetuate danger for others within their workplace and, vitally, the various structures that allow them to do so. But on the individual level of engaging w/ a lovely human who makes good art that's really up to each person. In the abstract I believe in separating the art from the artist but deciding where you draw that line is always gonna depend on an individual's sensitivities. I don't think I'd really feel comfortable engaging w/ The Cosby Show or Cosby's standup, but at the same time I think someone saying, "I loved The Cosby Show when I was a kid and it means something to me regardless of my feelings towards Cosby" or, "I see value in watching Cosby's standup because it's so important and the foundation for so many comics" is just as valid as I am So, whether or not they should redub Aladdin seems like...their call, y'know? Like, let's say a ton of stuff comes out about Williams, Disney's a company so for them it's probably gonna come down to a business decision. Is Aladdin falling out of favor because less people are comfortable watching it? Is it less loved because every time someone talks about it they throw in an asterisk & Disney by association gets attached 2 the crimes? Seems like those would be the general sort of questions they'd have to deal with, but they're like, y'know, business calls. I don't think any particular good comes out of acting like nothing ever happened
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DC Murderverse posted:guys, lets stop ragging on someone who has stupid opinions about hollywood, because guess who else has stupid opinions about hollywood: lmao the quotes in the article r so embarassing DrVenkman posted:Though I'm no fan of Penn, that story is likely bullshit. The first report on it was literally from a tabloid newspaper here in the UK. The police confirmed they were called to the residence but there was nothing to see. Madonna denied anything happened at the time and again stated nothing more than a petty argument occurred between them under oath not so long ago. No doubt Penn is probably a lovely partner, but I don't think he tied up Madonna and beat her as is usually claimed. Gawker (who else?) did probably the most comprehensive look at this (http://gawker.com/did-sean-penn-beat-up-madonna-an-archaeology-of-hollyw-1748746261) & while there's ambiguity around the exact details it's definitely more than "nothing actually happened"
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New blind from that site about the recent Schneider news http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/03/blind-item-13-her-words.html Everyone seems to think this is Amanda Bynes posted:
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Phi230 posted:Post the article U should ask nicely...as a policy
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LividLiquid posted:gently caress Yahtzee for his views on poo poo, but you have absolutely no idea how much work it is to write things and create video content. poo poo is in no way a cush job. It is bananas how much work that poo poo is. I only produce a few long-form videos a year and it is incredibly time-consuming. I prefer the work of Kenneth Waste
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lol https://twitter.com/thehill/status/989334019648249856
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvP4dT9-xQ
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Bust Rodd posted:Look I’m just gonna ask a gross question: Smh Bust Rodd
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McSpanky posted:Even hypothetically. wtf does that even mean mon
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Judakel posted:Who rang the CineD circlejerk alarm? this is not the thread for that sort of accusation
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Rhyno posted:Ehhh, plenty of places need people to flip burgers. show some respect 2 people doin minimum wage jobs...smh
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Hmm...lotta bastards in this thread
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Charlz Guybon posted:Hasn't this standard been used in Israel to persecute Palestinians? "He said he was Jewish!" wtf does that have to do with anything
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Charlz Guybon posted:The topic was lying and consent, so I brought up an instance of the law saying that lying negates consent and the results. obviously gently caress israel(occupied palestine) & all but just seems like ur generalizing concepts to an absurd degree to compare 2 completely different situations with completely different contexts. U may disagree but...that would be incorrect
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i think its funny he said https://twitter.com/brendonwalsh/status/1017520122171252736 like she didn't get it when if he paid attention 2 her writing he'd notice she said quote:Even though the tone at this particular show was experimental and loose, and the men who introduced me were playing the parts of boorish characters, the effect is the same. It is misogyny hiding behind irony. And if you don’t roll with the punches, you look uptight.
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DeimosRising posted:Oh I uh...get it, I guess I think where you might be getting hung up is that to you it might seem like he made incredibly sexist comments that highlight just how often women are degraded & otherized for their gender - but what you're missing is that he is intentionally, making a choice to say incredibly sexist comments that highlight just how often women are degraded & otherized for their gender.
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Top Gun posted:It's funny that everyones jumping into their usual political camps over the Gunn firing instead of realizing that society has become too oversensitive about everything. is that right
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thanks man really helpful contribution to the conversation
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Can we just make a different thread for this stuff? Like, when you're postin Faraci articles...
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I made the thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3864084
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Timeless Appeal posted:Appreciate the effort. Thank u
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2023 22:04 |
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Sucrose posted:Well, from my understanding she never actually named him and she said she wasn't out to try and ruin his career. So, if you consider the possibility that she may be telling the truth, that could explain why she didn't want to take part in AMC's investigation. It's a literal he-said-she-said situation. Nobody knows who's lying. Without any more evidence than the word of one person (who doesn't even want to cooperate), of course there's going to be no reason to fire him, nor should there be. It baffles me why anyone would resign in protest of him being fully reinstated, unless there's more going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. And really, if they're resigning because they hate Hardwick for some other reason, then they really need to state so rather than imply that they resigned because they believe the abuse story is true. And if they have personal reasons for believing that the abuse story is true, then they should go public with it. Otherwise their actions just seem completely unreasonable. It's rly not that complicated, that article links this one where multiple people who've worked with Hardwick say his behavior is entirely consistent with the abuse post. So I mean, I don't know why they need some secret info or to announce a press release along w/ their decision. Like, quitting at this exact time is the obvious announcement that they believe her based on their experiences.
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