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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Yeah, Dan Schneider is probably gonna get accused soon. Which'll be really interesting for Nickelodeon, given that they've really leaned on poo poo he EPs over the past decade or so.

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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


lelandjs posted:

Well, I WASN'T going to link to this CDAN post...


But now I feel like I should.


Be prepared for this one, folks.

Cranston's never done horror (that I'm aware of) and didn't mention CK.

e: the comments are saying it might be Jason Alexander.

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Nov 14, 2017

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Chili posted:

So not Dennis Reynolds, Ron Swanson.

No, every higher-up at NBC had the button and it was in case of an active shooter or something similar; Lauer was just misusing his. So Dennis.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


It sounds like Crews is mostly doing okay, though? Like, the powers that be are trying to gently caress his career and not really having a ton of success, is the impression I got from that article.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Timby posted:

Anthony Bourdain is slowly turning into David Lynch.



Edit: And for all the drinking and drugging he did, Bourdain doesn't look half-bad for 60-something.

Good to know Bourdain has gone from just being straight-up sexy as gently caress to being a silver fox

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Neo Rasa posted:

Man imagine having that kind of loving clout in Hollywood to be able to pull something like that but you still have to get a white dude to play Moses.

i think it's partly a matter of different circumstances. Getting rid of Spacey is something the execs could have gotten behind and were likely agonizing over, and the only issue with Scott's idea is that the logistics would be bonkers for any other director to handle.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Tars Tarkas posted:

As cool as the "Actually, editing out bad guys is Stalin!" hot takes are, they'll just Song of the South all the movies they can't edit, which is worse for those films in the long run because art that isn't seen becomes no longer relevant.

honestly this is legitimately going to be hairy as gently caress for film preservation regardless of what direction they go

like, I don't envy film historians 50 years from now; it seems like we've gotten insanely lucky that none of the stuff affected has been super important or anything, and it's just a ticking time bomb until the first legitimate Great Movie gets messed with because of this situation

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Mister Mind posted:

Don't worry - we can edit the child rapist out of Labyrinth, somehow.

i'm not gonna get behind anything that removes Bowie from stuff simply because the man is very dead and everyone who's currently benefiting from his work is, to my knowledge, completely on the level

like, yeah, he did horrible poo poo, but... that's just gonna have to go without justice. you can't meaningfully punish someone who's not alive anymore, especially when their surviving family is A-OK and absolutely doesn't deserve to be harmed by it.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


DC Murderverse posted:

and in all honestly, Mel Gibson is probably still making movies today because of RDJ. alcoholic friends helping alcoholic friends

the Mel-RDJ-Foster trio is a little weirder than that, and honestly hearing about it made me like Mel Gibson a decent bit more. which is to say, I mostly feel bad for him and don't outright want to hurt him anymore.

Mel's responsible for both RDJ and Foster still having careers, because he went to bat hard for Foster when the Ronald Reagan assassination attempt happened, and was pretty much singlehandedly responsible for RDJ drying out. regardless of him being a shitbag now, he did legit really good things for both of them, and it isn't really shocking or over-the-line that they feel like they owe him.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


i didn't have a problem with Max Landis until he started acting weird and horrible towards Lexi Alexander on Twitter. now that i do have a problem with him for that, i pretty much consider him fair game for mockery regardless of the attribute being mocked, and people make some loving :discourse: helicopter jokes.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Basebf555 posted:

unless he' s delusional enough to think his career would be where it is without the name.

Is this your first experience with Max Landis

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


got any sevens posted:

Woody Harrelson is a national treasure


I hope the inevitable weinstein movie doesnt just go by the name 'Harvey' and sully the jimmy stewart movie by association. Plus the other brother was into that poo poo a bit too, how has he not been dragged through the mud yet too?

I'm pretty sure the whole Weinstein circle is going down. There's rumblings about Bob, as you mentioned, and Bey Logan (the guy who runs Dragon Dynasty for them) is also a sex pest.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


DC Murderverse posted:

He admitted to pushing Buzz out the window, and we see him do it. I don’t know how much more you people need.

He stumbled and knocked into Buzz by accident. There was a snake in his boot. :colbert:

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


esperterra posted:

Also can I just say I think it's weird Mia Farrow is still close friends with Roman Polanski, all things considered? Especially if it's true what Allen did to Dylan. Especially when there's zero doubt Polanski is guilty of the same horrendous crime.

Again, a mess!

...yeah, that actually is kind of sketch and like the one thing that makes me side-eye her in the situation

you would think that having her daughter get raped would kind of turn her against the idea that some pedos are ok

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Snowman_McK posted:

I'm not actually American, and I'm curious to know how you think 'rule of law' applies.

I think they're saying that this is a pretty ironclad thing in France in general and that they don't make exceptions just because someone's Especially Bad.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Conspiracy idiots have no filter for who they'll listen to. This leads them to believe a lot of stupid poo poo, but sometimes they're the stopped clock that's right twice a day, so to speak, and they listen to someone with a legitimate grievance who everyone else is ignoring (for whatever reasons).

Like, if the Dan Schneider poo poo is true, it's... not exactly hard to figure out why it's only been making the rounds in the conspiracy nut circles. It's an insanely loving gross story involving a side of pop culture that basically nobody over the age of 15 who isn't a massive weirdo themselves touches, so that sort of cuts down the "people who care" list right off the bat, unfortunately. It also involves a Jewish guy being a pedophile, and Jews and pedos are both catnip for Dale Gribble wannabes. On top of this, again assuming there is any truth to the matter, Viacom's PR people protecting Schneider and trying to shut the story down is part of the situation; it's not hard to believe that they could have deliberately passed the story along to conspiracy-nut sources to make the story seem unbelievable (because who the gently caress is gonna report on a story that Alex Jones broke, even if it's actually legit).

It's honestly equally believable that it's bullshit, though, simply because I do remember this poo poo going around on 4chan (though, oddly enough, I don't remember it being anti-semites on /pol/, I remember it being weird pedos on /co/ trying to figure out if the Nick teen girl shows were made by one of their own- then again, I don't exactly make a habit of going to /pol/).

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jan 22, 2018

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


regardless of the veracity of the Dan Schneider rumors, this much (as follows) is all straight-up 100% verifiable:

- there is a loving bizarre amount of sexualization of underage girls in his shows, including weird foot fetish poo poo all over the place

- there is a huge correlation between "working with Dan Schneider as a teen girl" and "going utterly bugfuck bonkers as an adult" that is 100% in line with how a lot of people who've experienced horrible trauma develop

- most of the publicly available pictures of the man are of him grabbing onto terrified-looking teen girls while making a :getin: face at the camera

like, with the above in mind, I'll take Alex Jones and etc railing against him as "stopped clock, right twice a day" and not a sign that he's actually secretly okay. BARE loving minimum, the guy's a huge creep that nobody actually likes.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Lovely Joe Stalin you seem incredibly invested in the idea that this man with a giant flashing neon sign over his head saying "WARNING: CHILDFUCKER" who has been the subject of rumors about childfucking for literally a decade plus, and who has been involved in some incredibly sketchy situations for which the easiest possible missing puzzle piece is "childfucking," should not be investigated for possible childfucking

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

You know full well that what I meant was that you went from loudly and proudly proclaiming the obvious and absolute guilt of one person to insinuating that someone else had suspect motives because they didn't fall in line with you. And Lord of Booty did the same.

dude i was calling you a loving troll, not a pedo, chill

you're choosing to very loudly die on a kind of insane hill, that makes me think you're trying to get people riled up

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


like if i think you have any suspect motives, those suspect motives are "make this thread very bad" not "protect another diddler"

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Or else what, he'll get his rear end kicked by Billy Ray Cyrus, ala Mulholland Drive?

or he'll make someone very powerful with an interest in covering this up very angry and end up "mysteriously" "committing suicide" before he's able to say anything too dangerous.

like, after some of the poo poo that's come out about Weinstein, I'd be terrified of saying anything I knew too.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Who the hell is James Toback?

The only thing of any real note he's done is Bugsy. Looking him up on Wikipedia, he seems more notable for how loving bizarre his life has been (even before this) than his actual filmography. Dude used to live with Jim Brown (the NFL player) and had orgies with him, and once tripped balls on acid for 8 days straight and lost all fear of death as a result.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


i'm kind of getting the impression that Tarantino used to be a really, really lovely person, but had some kind of epiphany at some point and has legitimately been trying to turn around and use his platform for good

almost like a real-life My Name Is Earl or something, but... grosser since Jason Lee is cute and Tarantino is a strange troll-man with a foot fetish

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Basebf555 posted:

There were limits to what the public would look the other way on though, even then. I remember a famous musician's career basically came to an end after he became engaged to like a 12 or 13 year old girl, I just can't remember what his name was.

Jerry Lee Lewis. That was more because she was his cousin than because she was 13, though.

From what I gather, we used to be in a sort of (and I hate using this metaphor because it sounds click-baity, but bear with me) Altered Carbon/Elysium situation where the rich and famous were quite literally held to a different and looser set of moral standards than average people; there are a very select few lines you don't cross, but there's a lot less of them than for you and me.

We still are in this boat, of course, but it's at least starting to change, we're not cool with the rich being pedos anymore at least.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Snowman_McK posted:

Orange is the New Black, Vikings, Sense8, GLOW, Love, Fargo, Mad Men...there's definitely a trend. gently caress, sometimes there's even a plot point around it.

also noteworthy, a lot of people in hollywood are fetishy sex creeps

we might be entering into somebody's enchanted piss forest when those scenes come up, not witnessing a taboo being broken

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Tars Tarkas posted:

The idiot in the White House weighing in is especially weird considering he has been involved in a pretty high profile rape accusation case that he took out full page ads in a newspaper to support their executions and still seems to think they are guilty despite DNA evidence clearing them.

it's almost like they were black and most of the people targeted by #MeToo and #TimesUp have been white dudes

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


viral spiral posted:

I think you might be confusing Trump with Roman Polanski? :confused:

nah, this was a thing before the election and ~mysteriously~ vanished as the election started picking up steam

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


so the Devin Faraci thing kind of made me think about something.

is there a path to redemption at all for some of these people? if so, then what, exactly? if not, then what the gently caress exactly do we do about them, browbeat them into public suicide?

e: I don't necessarily think Faraci's atonement is genuine (it probably isn't), but some of the reaction to it makes me think that it's literally impossible for him to atone *at all* in most people's eyes except with possibly his blood.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Fart City posted:

It’s a tough thing because we’re so mired in this cultural moment. But yes, I do think there is an opportunity for people like Faraci. To an extent. Should his assault ever be forgotten? No. That goes on the permanent record. But if you’re genuine and honest enough about your failures, and take ownership of them, then I think there is a path forward for reintegration. The problem Faraci specifically is that his redemption has consisted of stealthily being rehired by the employer that terminated him for his harassment, and now attempting to judo said harassment into a narrative for his new business venture. There’s no genuine ownership to it.

Like, compare all of this to Dan Harmon. I don’t particularly like Harmon, but when allegations of impropriety were raised, he did not deny them, or attempt to deflect them. Instead he went on his podcast and took absolute ownership of his transgressions. His accuser forgave him, and although his actions will always be on record (and rightfully so), it kind of feels like everyone has moved on.

It’s... a really tough thing. But I think the ship to redemption has to be steered by that element of ownership, as well as the needs of the victims. And clearly Faraci is not really doing the former, and still having a negative impact on the latter.

i mean, i don't really disagree with any of this (or any of the similar statements made in reaction to mine), and Harmon was actually someone i was going to bring up as an odd counterexample where he apologized and was actually broadly forgiven and allowed to keep doing things because his apology was really clearly sincere and his accuser forgave him.

but like... we're seriously discussing the idea that Faraci might have converted to Buddhism as a way to stalk his accuser. even though the dude is a complete garbage fire and his attempt atonement is... pretty unlikely to be sincere, y'all realize that's kind of paranoid, right? like, i would assume his thought process there was "converting to Buddhism = I am a good person now" and went pretty much no further.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


just to make absolutely sure i'm not being misunderstood here: i think that, aside from an outside chance that faraci is the dumbest motherfucker of all time and genuinely believes what he's saying and thinks that's a good look, he's probably not being sincere. i do think that "dumbest motherfucker of all time" is on the table, but that's basically the absolute best case scenario for him and it's one of the least likely.

but at the same time, the reaction to him has been so extreme and he's been so widely hated for so long for other reasons that i'm not sure if a sincere apology a la Dan Harmon would have actually done anything for him. i feel like pretty much anything he could have done would have gotten this same reaction from everyone, even if this had been a genuine "holy gently caress i'm a bad person" wake-up call for him.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


GrandpaPants posted:

A lot of commenters went to Hanks, but then others pointed out that there's no way Tom Hanks is an A- celeb. Not that I know what the hell an A- celeb is, but I don't think Tom Hanks is it. At least I hope not, because otherwise gently caress everything it's not real.

Comedy option: Butters.

I would file Tom Hanks in the A- celeb category, because while everyone knows who he is and knows at least some of his older roles, you kinda don't see him around much nowadays outside of Spielberg stuff and stodgy dramas and he's not really a massive draw anymore

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Looks like we've landed on what's gonna kill his Don Quixote movie this time!

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Hat Thoughts posted:

nobody cares about John Lennon

well this is a take roughly as hot as the surface of the sun

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Isn't Bob Weinstein a huge pile of garbage too? Where the gently caress does he get off acting like he's better?

e: also, is this pretty much going to be TWC's last act as a company? the whole point of blocking the sale was to make sure they couldn't continue and had to die with Weinstein's career, from what I understood.

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Mar 20, 2018

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Timby posted:

A Texas hedge fund has put in a bid to assume TWC's assets

...god drat it, let's hope for an IP fire sale or there's a lot of movies that are probably gonna go out of print and never be seen again. hedge funds and insurance companies are the literal worst possible places for media rights to end up.

e: this hedge fund is going to have the rights to the last 3 Tarantino movies plus Grindhouse, The King's Speech, the Halloween remakes, Rambo 4, Coriolanus, The Fighter, Blue Valentine, Fruitvale Station, and pretty much the entire Dimension Films library (meaning the bulk of well-known 90s and 2000s horror). there's legitimately a pretty large chunk of recent film history that is just going to vanish into loving smoke if this hedge fund decides to sit on the library instead of selling it.

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Mar 20, 2018

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


21 Muns posted:

I very seriously doubt that this is going to happen (fuckin' lol at the idea that a bunch of extreme capitalists aren't going to cash in on all of the properties they have, let alone the biggest ones)

this has happened in video games several times before, and it's taken hilarious amounts of effort to pull the affected titles out of legal hell. System Shock 2 was out of print and couldn't be reprinted for like 20 years until Night Dive Studios went out of their way to try and untangle the rights, and Night Dive was (to my understanding) specifically formed for the purpose of doing that because there hadn't even been any interest prior. the No One Lives Forever games are in a similar clusterfuck, as is Blood, and even Night Dive has pretty much straight up said those games are never happening because none of the rights holders want to play ball (despite Night Dive being wizards at making rights holders play ball with each other).

e: like, that's specifically why I'm going "oh gently caress" at the fact that it's a hedge fund buying them out and not another studio, because hedge funds have a known history of being massive loving douchebags with media rights.

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Mar 20, 2018

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Zogo posted:

Halle Berry says she's 'livid' former manager allegedly used her name to prey on women
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/halle-berry-says-shes-livid-former-manager-allegedly-190603186--abc-news-celebrities.html

quote:

Meanwhile, Henson spoke positively to the Post of her relationship with Cirrincione, her one-time producing partner, saying, "I’ve never had any issue with this on any level."

The "Proud Mary" star added, "He totally respected me.”

Henson claimed that at times during her working relationship with Cirrincione, he would help her pay rent and costs associated with raising her son as a single mother.

“He saw a single mother trying to make her dreams come true, and he nurtured that,” Henson, whose publicist, Pam Sharpe, is Cirrincione's longtime girlfriend, according to the Post, told the newspaper. “He wrote checks and wouldn’t ask for anything in return. It wasn’t coming from a creepy place. If anything, it empowered me. Like this man believes in me. I love him for that.”

man, it must suck to end your career with loving Proud Mary of all movies.

e: alternately, he must have some dirt on her.

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Mar 21, 2018

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


21 Muns posted:

Killing yourself is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for sexual assault. If anything, being dead just makes the accusations worse, both because it means he can't face any real consequences and because it means whatever he did was so heinous someone still needed to come out with it even though he's dead. If we have any sense at all, the end result of this should be Robin Williams becoming a completely detested figure, and then a completely forgotten one whose works are left on the ash heap of history.

It's probably not going to be possible to completely get rid of Aladdin, so maybe we can at least dub him out of it? Dan Castellaneta voiced the Genie in Return Of Jafar. Getting him to voice the Genie in future releases of Aladdin itself would be a good start.

er... i don't think you actually read any of the stuff about this and you're just going off "Robin Williams accused of being a sex pest." we're seriously not talking about Jimmy Savile level stuff here, dude made dirty jokes and a couple people saw his dick on the Mork and Mindy set. and the tone with which this was put forth is less "Robin was horrible" and more "Robin was a crazy goof."

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


21 Muns posted:

Why would it matter that she didn't mind at all? :confused: If you're driving drunk, I don't particularly care if you're lucky enough to only hit suicidal people.

because the entire basis for it being a bad thing is lack of consent, and she apparently consented?

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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Holy gently caress

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