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Predator's actually an interesting case given its premise isn't so much 'guy at the gym who's buffer than you' (especially since the Predator is vaguely feminine coded in a movie with literal Arnie and a bunch of other hulks) but a mix of 'alien who treats humans like humans treat wild game' and 'sci-fi intruder to the plot of a standard genre action movie'. The movies start to suck when they move away from that, because the interesting part isn't the Predator, it's what they do and how people react. (and why Predator crossovers work remarkably well)inferis posted:I think you chose a particularly terrible example for this, the false memory thing was mainly started by a foundation now disbanded and completely discredited. Also a former advisor for them testified for Michael Jackson and Harvey Weinstein. Yeah, in retrospect the Satanic Panic looks even worse for invented accusations and scapegoats basically creating cover for the real predators.
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Hell, quite likely a lot of kids who genuinely suffered abuse were forced to blame that on a socially acceptable scapegoat rather than the actual perpetrator.
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Like, 'Satanic cults' were something literally not on the radar of anything real at all, they don't exist and never did, it was one step above claiming aliens were abducting their children and driving around the neighbourhood telling them to point out the body snatchers. These people weren't connected to reality. And it set the tone for moral panics to come, where evidence was never necessary. (Of course, arguably you can trace that back to McCarthyism)
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Mar 14, 2021 11:41
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:It does indeed feel lovely to have cheered on someone who ended up being awful. It creates this weird feeling of guilt by association, even if you never actually knew the person and there's no way you could have known what was going on. I feel like that's part of the reason you get so much awful doubling down from people trying to drown out their guilt.
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And then there's Jimmy Saville. Then again, sometimes they're kind of cheating where they're just the most obvious case of a society that doesn't actually care about rape. Hell, the way things are going to England, they're probably going to legalise it by the end of the year.
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There's a LOT of factors to keep in mind. Given how Hollywood works I imagine there's a lot of cases of 'are they going to rock the boat?' in mind, and yeah, a younger, woker fanbase probably contributes. Like with Joss Whedon, whose core fanbase are absolutely the people who are supposed to care about the poo poo he did.
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Skwirl posted:It's like, I think most people could probably figure out how to rob a bank and get away with it if they wanted too, once. You can't spend 20 years robbing banks 2-3 times a month and be guaranteed to get away with it every single time. This is actually oddly on point given a shitload of crimes are easy to get away with once if you wait for the perfect opportunity and do it just enough that they can't catch a pattern or even notice. Theft, embezzlement, etc. Thing is that the people who get caught are the ones who keep doing it.
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Internet Nazis are pretty much cartoon supervillains in that they will go to absolutely ridiculous lengths to attempt to defame and harm their enemies on ridiculous grudges, despite being incredibly stupid and their plans basically hinging on expecting said enemies to be even more stupid and thus willing to fall for the most childish of ruses. Which does sometimes work, mostly because twitchy internet folk and corporate suits are dumb as motherfuck.
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Bust Rodd posted:Actually I think if we started educating men at much younger ages about respecting women and learning to manage their feelings of inadequacy and emotional isolation internally instead of using women as tokens of status to feel better about themselves then we would go a long towards curbing sexual violence against women by men, and the idea that there will always by violent super-predators walking around no matter what we do to society is what boomers say RIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT before they shrug and go “eh what can you do?” Trying to rebuild society from the current system we have that's made to turn boys into monsters by default is a whole 'nother kettle of worms.
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Something to be said for hentai and furry porn when you look at the alternatives.
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Skwirl posted:I don't think I'm important enough, but the cops will absolutely use this technology to find, harass and arrest protestors. And don't forget murder too. I'm sorry, commit suicide by two gunshots to the back of head while in a burning vehicle coated in accelerants.
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By that I choose to believe Sonic will say 'And that's noooo good!' while waving his finger
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All is forgiven if we get some Adult Swim cameos.
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Though that doesn't help now I'm wondering if Bojack Horseman having a hippo character also turn out to be a sexual harasser and rapist is a reference to Harvey Birdman.
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AceOfFlames posted:The Tropic Thunder producers have claimed that Les Grossman was not based on any particular person but rather he's an amalgamation of several different producers. Tbh I believe them. No shortage of abusive balding fat white guys in that profession (though I bet Grossman is around 50% Rudin, 40% Weinstein and 10% other assorted assholes). Fits pretty well given the whole premise is the characters are mixes of various movie stars.
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That seems bizarrely symmetrical given the other guy with hands stuff in the movie.
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Ah, the old Wizards of the Coast move.
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I have no idea how these people loving function when being autistic it seems so difficult just to meet the bare minimum of social acceptance when trying incredibly hard.
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Skwirl posted:Ben Affleck is a raging alcoholic who probably also has other mental issues. Turns out Batman is actually pretty messed up. There was Daredevil. Which Drowning Pool made a song for, I only recently found out. Yes, that Drowning Pool.
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I'm pretty sure some culture warriors are trying to work on that but it never gets far since they're all messy bitches who can't read the room or make a single concession.
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Cacator posted:drat, guess we're not getting Your Highness 2 Just making room for The Most High.
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Came up in the media that aged poorly thread, but the attitude in the 90s and 00s was basically 'racism and sexism are over, so we can make jokes about it and don't need to worry any more!' and it led to some absolutely heinous poo poo between irony poisoning and total lack of self-awareness. Also it became completely taboo to acknowledge power gaps and class issues.
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Twitter has absolutely broken the minds of the rich and famous, and they are all terminally addicted to it.
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Snowman_McK posted:I liked his self awareness. He pointed out that if Kelly Clarkson, who is by all accounts a very nice person, walked up and kicked him in the balls, it would hurt, but she'd be completely justified since he'd written 11 billion really mean jokes about her for no real reason. There are some people who look into the abyss and realise what's looking back into them.
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King Vidiot posted:I don't really think Bender is meant to be a model for how you're supposed to act, like he's a delinquent from an abusive home and everything he does is built on that. He isn't even sympathetic until we hear about his home life and see how the principal treats him. Okay, am I the only one who immediately could only think Futurama?
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May 20, 2021 18:53
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Scientology also literally infiltrated the US government over years to co-opt authorities and destroy evidence of their crimes.
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Snowman_McK posted:We did have a weird person in this thread defending Dan Schneider and wishing him well in future projects. That was an incredibly weird hill to die on. SA has nothing if not the weirdest hills to die on.
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Wasn't it under Schneider that Nick moved away from the animated shows to a heavy push of tween sitcoms?
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It feels extremely tasteless, but I gotta say it somewhere: Today, we are all Chris Crocker. And see that earlier post about how obvious it is that the Spears parents will let you do anything to their kids for a rusty nickel.
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Shageletic posted:That's a pretty hefty claim, especially since sexual assault absolutely correlates with an environment where men have carte blanche to assault without consequences. Yeah, if anything growing up in an environment where your female peers are being assaulted without consequences is going to have some pretty logical effects on boys. These behaviours are learned and taught. Which I suppose works just as well for being victims of abuse, but still. pentyne posted:This is apparently not that unheard of, as the DA and prosecutions will routinely pull illegal poo poo like this to win and the only people who can fight it are the wealthy. Yyyep. Combine the culture of prosecutors and cops being locking people away to boost your high score, with blatant pay-to-win courts... 
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Kangra posted:The Britney Spears story is a bit less on the judge (it's a denial 'without prejudice') and seems to hint that her attorney might be botching things up (either intentionally or no). Wasn't it brought up that her father chose her attorney? It's intentional. The system is designed to keep people like Britney as property.
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Skwirl posted:Is he a hotep? Tariq is like the proto-hotep and a general favourite cspam laughing stock, being likely an inspiration for Measurehead.
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Much like how Nation of Islam iirc ended up basically a black themed franchise of Scientology, it's basically taking white supremacist rhetoric and flipping the script with some new aesthetics. Probably from black people spending too much time on Nazi boards and picking up the same beliefs and worldview but adjusted to be in their favor. vvv: Measurehead is specifically a parody of hoteps and various fascist adjacent beliefs, though more focused on the pseudoscience angle. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Jul 4, 2021 |
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Something to be said either for arrested development or seeking out hobbies and interests that give them excuses to be in contact with children. But then again, I imagine those are just the ones that get caught.B-Rock452 posted:I actually used to do forensic interviews for child victims and was on the sidelines of some pretty big investigations for child porn and honestly never really saw the star trek thing. What usually got me is how normal the people were. Like the myth of the giant gross nerd into child porn isn't that common but the first few times I went to get computers with a team I was always surprised when the door would open and some business man or normal looking teacher is standing there with the color draining from their faces. It turns out this is most predators and criminals. The idea of the greasy cartoon villain goes back to literal phrenology and has always been bullshit that shifts the blame away from how respected, influential people are so often predators. (Say, Cosby, who was practically obsessed with being 'normal')
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And of course we know we can trust the word of cops.
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Probably more that in Britain if you're an even vaguely financially secure white dude people will just let you do whatever the gently caress you want to children apparently
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Really doesn't seem like a coincidence a lot of the kids here are mentioned as nonwhite, from poor families and/or disabled, either.
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The key is to be crazy enough that they're too scared to cancel you because it might get your attention.
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As low as the bar may seem, if someone's into consenting adult humans and doesn't seem to be actively abusing them then well, it could be worse. Incidentally, I'm pretty sure this is why Boris Johnson somehow leaves a trail of bastards across Britain and actively cuckolds journalists as they write glowing stories about him, because as the British aristocracy goes that's a rare catch.
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Have you considered that your hysterical female mind simply made it all up because you want attention?
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