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live with fruit posted:Capitalism is specifically protecting Leto? Capital. But yes. He's a wealthy white man in a position that makes other wealthy white men lots of money. The entire apparatus is keeping him in that position as long as tenable, because that is what it is meant to do.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2022 07:03 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 01:45 |
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You don't actually have to be considerably rich or successful for the system to protect you. It's designed to protect the mediocre.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2022 08:06 |
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live with fruit posted:So it's not cause he's a wealthy white man in a position that makes other wealthy white men lots of money? What part of that do you think is contradictory?
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2022 08:28 |
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emo-ignorance posted:This. There had been rumors and speculation about Louis CK since at least 2012, but he denied it until the New York Times was about to put out an article where they interviewed the victims themselves. Unless someone specifically comes out and says "This happened to me," no amount of secondhand accounts will do much. Unfortunately this is why the chilling effect from what happens to accusers who DO come out and say what happened to them is so effective. vvv: Also this. The police are famously unhelpful at best when it comes to victims of sexual assault. And not much has really changed from Saville's day, if anything at all. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 7, 2022 |
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Boywhiz88 posted:The Jimmy Saville documentary is bad. His abuse isn’t really touched on in the first part. The connections to power and how they enabled him are pretty much glossed over. “Oh yeah, the local police supported him” and then nothing of it. “His connection with the royals is weird” and then nothing of it. Libel laws, and the not 0% chance that the royal family will you have you killed.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 13:46 |
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DrVenkman posted:Yeah, it's not great but that's par for the course with a lot of these things. It's particularly infuriating given there's already been a great book on the issue. Even worse that Saville himself talked about his connections to law enforcement a lot so its a weird thing for the doc to gloss over. Probably because getting too info law enforcement actively enabling pedophilia is also probably bad for your health.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 15:58 |
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Gorn Myson posted:It also helps that every big name in the media and politics in the UK went to the same schools, the same universities and regularly meet up at the same parties. Its a small club and if you're not in it then you're fair game. It's become increasingly obvious in recent years that England is basically a paedophile ring with a flag.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2022 06:24 |
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Dog_Meat posted:You're right though - when the queen finally dies I think we'll finally sever that link to WW2 and the obsession might ease off a bit. And the younger generation are doing an amazing job of calling bullshit on nationalism and all the old institutions that were untouchable before. That combined with social media and the ability to record so much gives me hope that things will improve and stamp out a lot of the deep rooted problems. I just hope there's something left for them when they're finally running things. You say that like they're ever going to be allowed to run things. There is no shortage of worthless failchildren waiting their turn in the big chair.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2022 09:03 |
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Kinda interesting how nearly every country has this mythology of organised crime that 'used to be respectable'.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2022 03:20 |
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deoju posted:Chevy Chase also has a decades long reputation of being a colossal dickhead. Famously. Something something, let them fight.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2022 08:11 |
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Yeah, the whole 'helpless victim who must be unquestioningly defended' thing is its own kind of well-demonstrated toxic. And really just another manifestation of madonna-whore syndrome.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2022 06:45 |
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You seen the poo poo that fantasy and sci-fi writers get away with?
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# ¿ May 11, 2022 04:50 |
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CPL593H posted:This whole thing has been pretty weird because I can't remember the last time anyone gave a poo poo about Johnny Depp in the last 20 years. But now everyone is crawling out of the woodwork to say how great he is and what a raw deal he's getting. Depp at this point basically has about the right mix of nostalgia, horny, and inertia on his side, unfortunately.
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# ¿ May 14, 2022 07:47 |
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Despite all the extremely online ideas about Zack Snyder, everyone who's actually worked with him seems to be willing to take a bullet for the guy.
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# ¿ May 15, 2022 05:30 |
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Talk poo poo, get hit. is only ever used as an excuse to act like a shithead to people minding their own business.
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# ¿ May 18, 2022 07:30 |
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Karloff posted:It's a good point. It's almost irreconcilable. Fundamentally I think it's because people's very internal and emotional feelings have been institutionalised into the justice system which means society doesn't get any better because "punish the bad people" is an emotional idea that doesn't solve anything. There's a wealth of evidence that rehabilitation over punishment is the way forward but it involves showing compassion for people which some are not willing to give, even if it would be better if they did. I hate the idea of the death penalty, I think it's abhorrent and when I have an argument with someone who is all for it their argument is always "if someone hurt or killed your family, wouldn't you want them dead", to which my answer has to be "probably". But that desire for retribution will not make anything better, the killer of my family should be helped to be better, not punished, even if I hate the idea. I think the part I bolded most resonates with me of your post because I do think it's the way forward, just a challenging one. Also how much of that is strongly tied into society's pervasive and institutionalised racism, hatred for the poor, and overall caste system that's literally a thinly disguised substitute for chattel slavery. Look at how hard people go to bat for their faves, or politicians they don't even like but have it hammered into them they need for the latest Most Important Election Of Our Lives. Or the entirely mythical concept of law enforcement we're taught from birth by TV. You don't have a justice system.
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# ¿ May 19, 2022 05:00 |
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Hillary Clinton might not be the best example there, just sayin.
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# ¿ May 21, 2022 16:07 |