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Defenistrator posted:Ok, I might be having a stupid night. But I'm reading news how Israel is helping out Russian Oligarchs and my head is spinning. wait until you find out the how some israeli politicians feel about viktor orban
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:wait until you find out the how some israeli politicians feel about viktor orban
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Defenistrator posted:Ok, I might be having a stupid night. But I'm reading news how Israel is helping out Russian Oligarchs and my head is spinning. I don't know that Russia is specifically targeting Jews in Ukraine, unless I'm missing something. Israel is in a touchy situation in relation to Russia for at least two reasons: (1) they want freedom to operate against Iranian interests in Syria, but Russia is there with AA batteries that might actually be able to shoot planes down (2) there are a lot of Jews still in Russia and they don't want Russia to crack down on them ((3) Russian oligarchs have had a lot of influence in Israel). They also have a certain advantage in dealing with Russia because there are a lot of Russian-speaking Jews in Israel, some from Russia, more from other post-Soviet states.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I don't know that Russia is specifically targeting Jews in Ukraine, unless I'm missing something. That makes a lot more sense, thanks. But still, isn't Russia full anti-Semitic with the orthodoxy and all?
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:wait until you find out the how some israeli politicians feel about viktor orban Who? What?
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# ? Mar 15, 2022 15:21 |
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Defenistrator posted:Who? What? long story short israel is very cozy with a bunch of European far right movements that are strongly antisemitic. primarily because those movements are also strongly anti-muslim (and so support what Israel is doing in Palestine), but also because the ways they are antisemitic are useful to the Israeli right if Orban or Le Pen say 'the jews need to get out of our country' Bennet and company get to respond 'welp looks like there's only one sensible place for you to go, here!'
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Defenistrator posted:That makes a lot more sense, thanks. But still, isn't Russia full anti-Semitic with the orthodoxy and all? not particularly no. unless I'm missing something (you should probably link us something on those pogroms you mentioned) but I'd probably rather be jewish in moscow than budapest
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Defenistrator posted:Who? What? "The Independent posted:Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has welcomed his Hungarian counterpart as a “true friend of Israel” at the start of a controversial two-day visit that has sparked widespread outcry over Viktor Orbán‘s praise of Nazi collaborators. "yair netanyahu posted:the israeli right wing has an odd habit of being friends with nazis and using anti-semetic memes. if one didn't know better it would almost suggest some kind of deeply rooted problem in israeli politics and culture that doesn't get talked about for some reason
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# ? Mar 16, 2022 00:42 |
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Netanyahu is no longer PM. Although it seems that the current government is keeping the relationship close, for whatever reason, even though FM Lapid is on the record criticizing Orban.
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Does Armenia go in the Middle East thread, or in the Eastern Europe thread? I don't remember where the Nagorno-Karabakh war stuff went but I didn't read the EE thread so ... maybe it was here? Or maybe iI guess if Afghanistan is "middle Eastern" then Armenia might as well be. Anyway, it looks like Armenia and Turkey might normalize relations and reopen the border. https://ecfr.eu/publication/acts-of-normality-the-potential-for-turkey-armenia-rapprochement/ I guess this must have already been in the works well prior to Russia, but presumably having a hostile Azerbaijan on one side, a similarly-stuck-between-enemies Georgia on the other, a mildly-antagonistic-at-best Turkey, and lukewarm (?) relations with Iran made them have to bury at least one hatchet. It's kind of surprising to me since a large part of why Azerbaijan won the Karabakh war was because of Turkish materiel. Anyway maybe good news? I never followed the politics of the region too much, but it always kind of seemed to me like the Armenians were spiteful dicks to the Azeris from 1990-2020 in the once-Azeri-populated parts of Nagorno-Karabakh, although I imagine there was dickery going back and forth for generations before 1990 that "justified" why Armenia ethnically cleansed the area after the first Karabakh war. I have an Armenian friend here, and with the collapse of Russia's economy (and consequently, it will soon hit Armenia's substantially) she is now again almost as worried for Armenia's future as when she thought her drafted brothers might get sent to Karabakh to get hit by Bayraktars.
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I seem to recall that Armenian-Russian relationships got pretty strained during the last war. At the very least, it became obvious that Azerbaijan's allies were worth a lot more than Armenia's. It makes sense that a humbled Armenia might seek to get out of it's diplomatic rut. As for Turkey... well, Nagorno-Karabakh is settled for the foreseeable future, so I guess Turkey feels like it doesn't need to shut out Armenia for Azerbaijan's sake anymore. Turkey has always wanted to paper over the whole genocide thing anyway, so seeing Armenia crawl into their sphere has got to be satisfying.
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i say swears online posted:not particularly no. unless I'm missing something (you should probably link us something on those pogroms you mentioned) but I'd probably rather be jewish in moscow than budapest https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...6V2ivtYQxyTSki0 That's what I was reading..
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Saladman posted:Does Armenia go in the Middle East thread, or in the Eastern Europe thread? I don't remember where the Nagorno-Karabakh war stuff went but I didn't read the EE thread so ... maybe it was here? Or maybe iI guess if Afghanistan is "middle Eastern" then Armenia might as well be. Turkey and Armenia starting to normalize relations is good news and good for the region. Turkey *could* potentially act as an intermediary for negotiations and security cooperation between Armenia and Azerbaijan *if* they choose to. Not that Turkey's government will necessarily do that, but they're probably a much better party to facilitate it than Russia has been in that regard, at least. Armenians were absolutely gigantic dicks when they (backed by Russia) effectively "won" the previous war, choosing to occupy a bunch of historically Azeri areas in addition to the areas that were historically Armenian and immediately ethnic cleansing them. It wasn't any more justified then than Azeris ethnic cleansing everything they grabbed in Nagorno-Karabakh would be now. There is no "good guy" side of that war, and the sooner they can settle on agreed upon borders and bury the loving hatchets the better. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Mar 20, 2022 |
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Warbadger posted:Armenians were absolutely gigantic dicks when they (backed by Russia) effectively "won" the previous war, choosing to occupy a bunch of historically Azeri areas in addition to the areas that were historically Armenian and immediately ethnic cleansing them. It wasn't any more justified then than Azeris ethnic cleansing everything they grabbed in Nagorno-Karabakh would be now. There is no "good guy" side of that war, and the sooner they can settle on agreed upon borders and bury the loving hatchets the better. https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1507006212671385608 Does anyone have a good source for updates? I'm already kind of maxed out following the Ukrainian war and now this pops off again
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Delays at the formula 1 in Jeddah as the houthis have managed to blow up an Aramco oil depot in the city. Both impressive from a military point of view managing to successfully hit such a prominent target, but also a great strategy when there is going to be so much press around.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Delays at the formula 1 in Jeddah as the houthis have managed to blow up an Aramco oil depot in the city. Both impressive from a military point of view managing to successfully hit such a prominent target, but also a great strategy when there is going to be so much press around. Taking a page out of goonswarm's book and launching a Burn Jeddah event.
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The Saudi's have decided to build upon the PR disaster by implicitly threatening to hold the F1 teams hostage if they don't continue with the race.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:The Saudi's have decided to build upon the PR disaster by implicitly threatening to hold the F1 teams hostage if they don't continue with the race. Sounds about right for the House of Saud.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:The Saudi's have decided to build upon the PR disaster by implicitly threatening to hold the F1 teams hostage if they don't continue with the race. I read about the drivers' meeting but didn't hear about this. fwiw I believe saudi intelligence that the houthis don't intend to attack the race directly
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a pipe smoking dog posted:The Saudi's have decided to build upon the PR disaster by implicitly threatening to hold the F1 teams hostage if they don't continue with the race. I feel like that's a false rumor. F1 is doing the race because they'd lose hundreds of millions of dollars if they didn't, it's that simple. For me that's the obvious answer. There were more attacks than just that one too, although now a three day ceasefire has been established, plus Ramadan is coming shortly which generally signals a pause in hostilities.
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Play posted:I feel like that's a false rumor. F1 is doing the race because they'd lose hundreds of millions of dollars if they didn't, it's that simple. For me that's the obvious answer. one might reasonably expect a host country to waive certain obligations in the wake of incidents such as a hostile militia blowing up important buildings with seeming impunity, though
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Saudi Arabia made it difficult for wrestlers to leave the country over a pay dispute, so I don't find it too hard to believe there might have been some implied threats against racers who wanted to leave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_in_Saudi_Arabia#Travel_issues
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Play posted:I feel like that's a false rumor. F1 is doing the race because they'd lose hundreds of millions of dollars if they didn't, it's that simple. For me that's the obvious answer. The BBC heavily implied it. We'll probably find out in a couple of weeks when they have the next race in Australia and people can ask the drivers questions without worrying what happens to them.
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Saudi Arabia announces halt to all military operations in Yemen to give peace negotiations a chance during Ramadan https://twitter.com/sparegions/status/1508906771737366528?s=21&t=9rr3VlRoIiYtzwcuspjFyg
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Al-Saqr posted:Saudi Arabia announces halt to all military operations in Yemen to give peace negotiations a chance during Ramadan Super good news, especially since I thought Biden was going to give MBS a blank check to double down on mass murder to stabilize the oil markets. Obviously this could fall through, but I really hope it works out.
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Sinteres posted:Super good news, especially since I thought Biden was going to give MBS a blank check to double down on mass murder to stabilize the oil markets. Obviously this could fall through, but I really hope it works out. KSA doesn't need more money to fight this war. They want direct US involvement along the lines of Russia involvement in Syria to push things along. Biden isn't likely to provide it.
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Warbadger posted:KSA doesn't need more money to fight this war. They want direct US involvement along the lines of Russia involvement in Syria to push things along. Biden isn't likely to provide it. I didn't mean a literal blank check, I meant weapons/fueling/targeting assistance, and a clamp down on criticism when they murk a bunch of civilians.
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Al-Saqr posted:Saudi Arabia announces halt to all military operations in Yemen to give peace negotiations a chance during Ramadan lets hope this stays, god that would be an improvement for the world
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Sinteres posted:Super good news, especially since I thought Biden was going to give MBS a blank check to double down on mass murder to stabilize the oil markets. Obviously this could fall through, but I really hope it works out. I had the same thought. Oil producing nations sure here a lot of clout right now.
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hmm maybe energy policy is security policy, and a green shift makes sense on several levels
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# ? Mar 30, 2022 16:08 |
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You see a lot of this stuff around Ramadan every year. Mostly I think they just don’t want any princes getting murked during iftar in Abha.
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Yeah this happens every year, on both sides actually, after all they are all muslim.
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big news, a big breakthrough deal agreeing to a two month ceasefire between KSA and the Houthis has been announced, the siege of Yemen is being lifted, the deal includes:- - re-opening all ports and airports (especially Sanaa airport) under both sides to resume normal trade, shipping and travel purposes - big prisoner transfers -all military activity inside and outside the country to halt for two months with possible extension. https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1509941215550230535?s=21&t=wXoWHV5Eyg4qKzgHMFxUSg so in closing, KSA has lost the yemen war. the houthis are here to stay. Seven years of a disaster for nothing.
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Al-Saqr posted:big news, a big breakthrough deal agreeing to a two month ceasefire between KSA and the Houthis has been announced, the siege of Yemen is being lifted, the deal includes:- gently caress yes, i hope it sticks
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Al-Saqr posted:big news, a big breakthrough deal agreeing to a two month ceasefire between KSA and the Houthis has been announced, the siege of Yemen is being lifted, the deal includes:- Does this mean the Houthis won the war though? Will they keep fighting the Southern Movement for control of Aden?
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Does this mean the Houthis won the war though? Will they keep fighting the Southern Movement for control of Aden? Don't forget the Al Qaeda linked groups. I'm glad though that there is a ceasefire and I hope KSA pulls out permanently.
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Hopefully that ends up fully leading to the removal of the blockade, which would truly behuge. Also an extremely dark loving lol that saudi arabia managed to militarily lose a genocide. What an absolute waste of lives.
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Associated Press posted:Pakistan in political turmoil as leader dissolves parliament Sounds like Pakistan's military-supported prime minister is seizing power.
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Kaal posted:Sounds like Pakistan's military-supported prime minister is seizing power. Here's the real hum dinger, he's not the bad guy. For Pakistan he's better than the alternatives. Those wanting to get back in power are the ones part of the same bad apples the lead Pakistan to decline and suffer for 40 years, near my entire life that I've known, looting the country and being ultra corrupt and beholden to foreign influence for cash. The country will further decline to instability if they get back in. And every Prime Minister has to have the blessing of the military to gain power and not get too big for themselves, this has always been the unofficial thing in Pakistan. The military is the stabilizing force there but publicly has to say they're neutral.
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Kaal posted:Sounds like Pakistan's military-supported prime minister is seizing power. The military have been unhappy with Khan for a while. Seems like hes doing this off his own back.
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