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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005

I've never actually participated in one of these BOTM before so not sure what the spoiler rules are, but anyway, this post will contain spoilers. Then again, I suppose if you've made it this far in the thread, you've either already read it or don't care to have things spoiled for you.

This book was real god drat good. I haven't felt physically uncomfortable from reading a novel in a long time but the sheer rawness behind the, "this is what it was like," section definitely did it.

One thing I'll add to the posters earlier who were saying the lesbian subplot felt tacked on - I think the reason it can feel that way is because we don't see the same relationship buildup between Caitlin and Shalini like we do for other characters. We see her relationship with her grandfather develop from its inception, we see her relationship with her mother evolve even over the early sections of the book, and even her relationship with Steve gets an arc. Perhaps I need to go back and re-read it, but I did not feel like there was that development with Shalini. When she was first introduced, she felt like a tertiary character akin to Mr. Gustofsan or that inspector who questions her when she's sitting in the trailer at the docks. So when they were then having a sleepover and kissing for the first time, it felt abrupt. I do remember there being a scene in there where Shalini hugged Caitlin while Caitlin was crying into a bathroom mirror but I remember feeling that that scene seemed random and didn't make much sense.

This is not to say I thought the lesbian subplot felt tacked on - ultimately I feel it was incredibly vital to the story and there would have been a lot lost without it. Rather I'm positing why I think it could come across as tacked on to some people.


Stuporstar posted:

Same: MORE SPOILERS

As someone who's been in a similar hosed up situation, I'd say the psychology in this novel is spot on. It's hard to instantly stop loving someone when they suddenly turn into a monster, because you're totally in shock. It often takes that extra step over the line before you get fed up enough to say gently caress this poo poo. It's even harder when you're young and it's a parent because you can't just up and leave the loving bastard. And you can end up so angry for years, you have to watch you never take your anger at your abuser out on someone else when they accidentally stumble into your past—which made me not completely hate the mother, even though her past doesn't excuse her at all from taking it out on her daughter.

Also the fish and the lesbian sideplot were a bright light in the abyss and I was thankful for both of them. If the novel had been totally dire from beginning to end, I would have angrily cast it aside as abuse porn. Instead, both the fish and sideplot fleshed out Caitlin as a person instead of just a stand in for a little girl with an abusive mom.

E. I should probably mention I'm not trying to use "Mah experience!" to shut down discussion or anything. It's just what I took from it. I found this book cathartic.

Personally I welcome the "Mah experience!" perspective for the simple reason that I honestly can't relate. There were several instances while I was reading where I questioned a character's actions or reactions to the abuse they were facing and had to keep reminding myself to more or less check my privileged, for lack of a better term. Hearing from people like you that the book accurately depicts the physical and emotional trauma of an abusive parent-child relationship (or any abusive relationship, really) is incredibly educational for someone like me who hasn't been through that kind of situation.

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Nov 17, 2017

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