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Reagan was a reflection of America's desire to get out there and start lynching again.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Nixon was a pile of poo poo. He sabotaged Vietnam peace talks and oversaw secret bombings of Cambodia. He did everything he could to tear down the American government to claw at power. The most hosed up thing about Nixon is all of his evil wasn't ideological, it was entirely selfish. Pretty much every other President acted in terms of how they could shape the Presidency along their ideology, everything Nixon did was for Nixon. It's loving exactly like Trump. He still hasn't killed a million people on a lie, but man he sure as hell could.
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Trump in 10 months has provided us with infinitely more comedy then 8 years of Bush and it’s not even close. I know that doesn’t make him better or worse than Bush but it’s definetly a positive in the Trump column.
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ScrubLeague posted:The most hosed up thing about Nixon is all of his evil wasn't ideological, it was entirely selfish. Pretty much every other President acted in terms of how they could shape the Presidency along their ideology, everything Nixon did was for Nixon. Yeah I remember telling my parents that Trump was like Nixon a while ago and it seems like a really apt comparison, especially after watching that Ken Burns Vietnam doc recently.
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get that OUT of my face posted:yeah no argument there. reagan is when republicans went full-on moronic as a policy, though the dementia would seal the deal imo
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FactsAreUseless posted:All the stuff Trump has done with staffing departments with people who hate those departments, the anti-science poo poo, etc., those are all Bush strategies. I would argue strongly that Trump's election is a direct result of the Bush years (which are a result of the Reagan years, which are a result of Nixon. It all goes back to Nixon.) but in the grand scheme it's not even bush or regan or obama or clinton or whatever that culminated in trump. all of this is a direct consequence of a fundamentally broken and anti-democratic economic system that puts the reins in the hands of a tiny few
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it's not really about reagan or bush or nixon or obama or whoever being so terrible and turning the country toward a dark path. it's not about any particular congressional members or governor. you can't really fawn for some alternate history where only if X had won or some candidate you never heard of replaced reagan instead or whatever. it'd in the end be a similar group of assholes filtered through the same american political process that will produce another similar rear end in a top hat that would be just as terrible as bush or reagan or whoever. american politicians in general are appointed with the approval of the wealthy and the business community in order to benefit themselves. why does our political process get corrupted so? because of a fundamentally undemocratic economic system where a tiny minority make all the important economic decisions. this anti-democratic system translates into inequality. economic inequality translates into political inequality. nixon being a keynesian while his successors, including democrats, were not should be instructive. the abandonment is not because the politicians and academics and economists lost their minds and completely forgot about the lessons learned from the great depression. it's because the crisis of potential revolution was over and the tiny minority wanted more for themselves.
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Kinsky posted:I'm glad just about every news source has devolved into rabid political editorials and tabloid headlines. I want to be the guy getting paid to do lame sketches of Trump's dumb monkey face the caricature is pretty lame but that presidential seal owns
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The Nastier Nate posted:Trump in 10 months has provided us with infinitely more comedy then 8 years of Bush and it’s not even close. get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 18:49 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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Nov 10, 2017 18:43
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the world is still completely hosed up because of bush. it's really cool stuff
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The Nastier Nate posted:Trump in 10 months has provided us with infinitely more comedy then 8 years of Bush and it’s not even close. I know that doesn’t make him better or worse than Bush but it’s definetly a positive in the Trump column. There's no That's my Trump and Lil' Trump tv shows
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Nov 11, 2017 19:44
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Plutonis posted:There's no That's my Trump and Lil' Trump tv shows also That's My Bush was criminally underrated and was an unfortunate casualty of 9/11. it wasn't even a show meant to mock bush
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Nov 11, 2017 20:20
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Pick posted:I just think it's weird that GW is recovering some of his legacy by hating trump but frankly I don't care if he does or not, he sucks poo poo, he killed hundreds of thousands of people, that blood is on his hands. but those were brown people so corncob hot take dot com doesn't account for their hundreds of thousands of deaths when evaluating who is a worse president
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Lots of lovely Dems want to rehabilitate W's image because Obama continued most of the bad Bush policies and saying Obama was bad is heresy. Like any time I make fun of Obama I get "ID TAKE HIM OVER TRUMP" like they are the only two possible people to lead this country.
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Was Bush really that competent, or did the fault lie more with Democrats being at their height at fuckboyness?
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punk rebel ecks posted:Was Bush really that competent, or did the fault lie more with Democrats being at their height at fuckboyness?
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Michael Bayleaf posted:the world is still completely hosed up because of bush. it's really cool stuff The world is still completely hosed up because of Nixon
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you know this article is dumb as gently caress because 1) bush had 8 years on Trump, and is worse because his administration was competent enough to weasel through their agendas and convince both sides of the aisle to engage in two wars that we're still not out of 2) trump is a moron with a completely insular and corrupt administration focused on domestic policies that enriches them solely, while bush's mess still endures through 2 administrations and will continue to do so because this administration sure as poo poo is apathetic about long term goals to fixing it objectively its too early to tell, but substantially that bush wreaked havoc globally, trump will most likely wreak havoc domestically and that's damaging enough to reshape America's foreseeable future if trump's admin can get the job done Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 15:03 on Nov 12, 2017 |
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before the election my thought was 4 years of trump would be about as bad as 8 years of bush, i figured trump would be incompetent but still get enough of his more monstrous stuff accomplished to be that damaging. now, who knows.
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Lastgirl posted:objectively its too early to tell, but substantially that bush wreaked havoc globally, trump will most likely wreak havoc domestically and that's damaging enough to reshape America's foreseeable future if trump's admin can get the job done
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Nov 12, 2017 18:40
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Pick posted:LET’S ALL TAKE A BREATH: TRUMP IS A JOKE, BUT BUSH WAS WORSE That article was a very wordy way to say “I’m a straight white man”
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Thursday Next posted:That article was a very wordy way to say “I’m a straight white man” I am truly amazed that you've already forgotten how bad GWB was wrt anyone who was not a straight, white, man.
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Thursday Next posted:That article was a very wordy way to say “I’m a straight white man” Well known LGBT ally Bush
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Thursday Next posted:That article was a very wordy way to say “I’m a straight white man”
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Pick posted:I am truly amazed that you've already forgotten how bad GWB was wrt anyone who was not a straight, white, man. the families of half a million dead iraqis certainly haven't
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Zas posted:before the election my thought was 4 years of trump would be about as bad as 8 years of bush, i figured trump would be incompetent but still get enough of his more monstrous stuff accomplished to be that damaging. now, who knows.
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anyone that thinks Trump is worse than Bush is a moron, but luckily it's a good litmus test to decide whether it's worth talking politics to someone
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I'm just in awe of it really. what Trump could do has completely eclipsed what bush actually did. is this postmodernism
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get that OUT of my face posted:bush did his fair share of domestic damage too, like drastically expanding the surveillance state that is true my AIM was not safe  trump is going after immigrants and dreamers and im sure his administration is thanking this system because it's a nationalist's wet dream bush laid the groundwork
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maskenfreiheit posted:the families of half a million dead iraqis certainly haven't *more than
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Thursday Next posted:That article was a very wordy way to say “I’m a straight white man” ah yes george w bush, a good president for the not straight white and male
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rudatron posted:we've still got like 3 years left, give Trump a chance actually we have at least 7 years left
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Frijolero posted:Told my coworkers that W. would be the first person in my guillotines and one person literally gasped lol That's a solid first guillotine choice. As far as the question "IS W WORSE THAN TROMP?" Yes, yes he was. Trump is Amerca's Rob Ford - he will accomplish next to nothing other than triggering the libs.
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Montasque posted:That's a solid first guillotine choice. well you kno, except for all those deportations and concentration camps
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I think a lot of people who think Trump is the worst thing ever are just reacting to the (completely reasonable) revulsion they feel towards him personally. He's the concentrated essence of all of Americans' worst characteristics. There's just something viscerally disgusting about a person like that being in a position of power and a lot of people latch onto that feeling because it has a lot of emotional weight. He's a symbol of America's decline and a constant reminder that something is seriously wrong with our society. W had a veneer of decorum so all the horrible poo poo he did was constantly being presented as Sensible Solutions from Reasonable People. I was surprised at my own reaction to the election. I never had any love for Clinton and thought her being elected would just be an endless source of fodder for the right wing media while nothing changed. But on election night the reality of President Trump setting in was just sickening to me. I just loving hate him, in a way I don't feel about the Bush administration, even though (so far) Trump hasn't been worse.
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At least you're honest about why you hate him so much despite his disappointing lack of bodycount so far
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