Let's rewrite the BSD kernel in C++!

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Goonerousity: Sep 25, 2017; aww yeah

I would love a part in the team, I am not that well versed in C++ or the BSD kernel, but I can imagine if we all work together we can build something cool.

There are fun times to be had!

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Goonerousity: Sep 25, 2017; aww yeah

reserved for new years!

Goonerousity fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Nov 13, 2017

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ohgodwhat: Aug 6, 2005

If I start the wiki do I have to rewrite it in C++ too? Because that's a lot of work for an ideas guy like me.

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Aunt Beth: Feb 24, 2006; Baby, you're ready!; Grimey Drawer

Why though

# ? Nov 13, 2017 00:14

Goonerousity: Sep 25, 2017; aww yeah

Aunt Beth posted:

Why though

You can do fun stuff with inheritence, and polymorphism. instead of waiting for messages you can subclass (i think thats the word) whatevers pointing to whatever is in memory and overload stuff.

# ? Nov 13, 2017 00:44

Actuarial Fables: Jul 29, 2014; Taco Defender

Here's a little something to get you started

code:

int main() 
{
   //todo
}

# ? Nov 13, 2017 01:47

Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

I have some pseudo code you can adapt into cpp:

code:

Start Loop
Wait for Inputs
If ins put, then process data
Output Results
Repeat

HTH, and god bless. No need to thank me!

# ? Nov 13, 2017 03:34

Goonerousity: Sep 25, 2017; aww yeah

Alright guys, we're off to a decent start. Someone start writing code and post it on github.

# ? Nov 13, 2017 04:49

Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Oh, just had a thought! Why not rewrite it into python?? That way you can run it platform agnostically!

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Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

I took a high school course on VB6, I�ll write the scheduler.

# ? Nov 13, 2017 08:04

Goonerousity: Sep 25, 2017; aww yeah

Arivia posted:

I took a high school course on VB6, I�ll write the scheduler.

Are you aware that I've taken college classes..?

# ? Nov 13, 2017 11:11

Aunt Beth: Feb 24, 2006; Baby, you're ready!; Grimey Drawer

Arivia posted:

I took a high school course on VB6, I�ll write the scheduler.

I�ve made schedules in Excel before. Can�t we just use that? No need to reinvent the wheel.

# ? Nov 13, 2017 14:09

OWLS!: Sep 17, 2009; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

*in extremely hackernews voice* why not do it in rust?

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Goonerousity: Sep 25, 2017; aww yeah

OWLS! posted:

*in extremely hackernews voice* why not do it in rust?

Because swift or rust or go or whatever you're trying to sell me, pal, and I've taken college courses, and those programming languages can go gently caress themselves.

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BangersInMyKnickers: Nov 3, 2004; I have a thing for courageous dongles

Please remember to compile to funroll-loops

# ? Nov 13, 2017 15:33

Stanley Pain: Jun 16, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

I'll be here in the corner OPTIMIZING all of y'alls code into x86 ASM.

# ? Nov 13, 2017 16:15

Aunt Beth: Feb 24, 2006; Baby, you're ready!; Grimey Drawer

Stanley Pain posted:

I'll be here in the corner OPTIMIZING all of y'alls code into x86 ASM.

What a waste of time. x86 is dead. Everyone knows ARM is the future.

# ? Nov 13, 2017 16:59

Modulo16: Feb 12, 2014; "Authorities say the phony Pope can be recognized by his high-top sneakers and incredibly foul mouth."

I will join the project and change all of the man page output so that it pipes through cowsay by default. This cements us as a serious team but that we don't take ourselves too serious.

Also we should ~~not~~ totally use systemd

Modulo16 fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Nov 14, 2017

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GABA ghoul: Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what any of these words mean, so I think I would be a good addition to the team

# ? Nov 14, 2017 21:33

Da Mott Man: Aug 3, 2012

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

I don't know what any of these words mean, so I think I would be a good addition to the team

Can we offer you the position of Lead Developer?

# ? Nov 14, 2017 22:42

Mofabio: May 15, 2003; (y - mx)*(1/(inf))*(PV/RT)*(2.718)*(V/I)

Da Mott Man posted:

Can we offer you the position of Lead Developer?

lead developer? is the position still open? because i have extensive experience eating paint chips

# ? Nov 14, 2017 23:00

Da Mott Man: Aug 3, 2012

Mofabio posted:

lead developer? is the position still open? because i have extensive experience eating paint chips

You can be our Product Evangelist.

The position comes with a signing bonus of 3 turtlenecks.

# ? Nov 14, 2017 23:29

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

I'm going to be an extremely prolific poster on the mailing list despite never contributing a line of code.

(or maybe, at most, I will contribute lovely patches that do not get accepted)

# ? Nov 15, 2017 04:19

mystes: May 31, 2006

Sorry OP, I can't take you seriously. In 2017 everyone who is posting on a forum about how they're totally really going to rewrite a kernel in another language is posting that they're going to do it in Rust.

# ? Nov 15, 2017 09:31

Rahu: Feb 14, 2009; let me just check my figures real quick here; Grimey Drawer

You should write it in haskell instead, op. People are very impressed by haskell.

# ? Nov 15, 2017 11:22

Aunt Beth: Feb 24, 2006; Baby, you're ready!; Grimey Drawer

The real question we should be asking is if we can make this into an app. Everyone is using apps these days and I don�t know many people who are using BSD Kernels. I bet we could sell this if it was an app.

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nexxai: Jul 17, 2002; quack quack bjork; Fun Shoe

I speak English for 3 days

May I Documentation Lead please?

# ? Nov 18, 2017 01:33

Da Mott Man: Aug 3, 2012

We are going to pivot into writing the kernel in Erlang aka Outlaw Techno Psychobitch. This move should increase the amount of people to contribute to the project.

# ? Nov 18, 2017 01:49

Bruegels Fuckbooks: Sep 14, 2004; Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

Clearly the right answer is to write the kernel in javascript.

# ? Nov 18, 2017 15:40

Methylethylaldehyde: Oct 23, 2004; BAKA BAKA

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

Clearly the right answer is to write the kernel in javascript.

Serious question time, could you even do such a thing?

# ? Nov 18, 2017 22:37

Goonerousity: Sep 25, 2017; aww yeah

Well since most of the dev team are ASSHOLES, i'll fork and rewrite it myself, then make a manifesto, then idk be the best parade maker in the world

# ? Nov 18, 2017 23:35

Volguus: Mar 3, 2009

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Serious question time, could you even do such a thing?

Most likely yes. There are OS-es (kernels and userspace) written in java and other languages. You would have to write a small bootstrapper in C and/or ASM, launch the v8 engine, but after that you'd be flying. Maybe. Probably. No idea.

# ? Nov 19, 2017 02:43

Aunt Beth: Feb 24, 2006; Baby, you're ready!; Grimey Drawer

Volguus posted:

Most likely yes. There are OS-es (kernels and userspace) written in java and other languages. You would have to write a small bootstrapper in C and/or ASM, launch the v8 engine, but after that you'd be flying. Maybe. Probably. No idea.

Are these bootstrappers and v8 engines part of our core competency? Maybe we should hire a consultant to help us reevaluate the scope of this project and find some off the shelf software that we can customize to suit.

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Faith For Two: Aug 27, 2015

Actuarial Fables posted:

Here's a little something to get you started
code:
int main() 
{
   //todo
}

I'm contributing!

code:

int main(int argc, char** argv, char** envp)
{
    //todo
}

# ? Nov 19, 2017 04:31

The Phlegmatist: Nov 24, 2003

Volguus posted:

Most likely yes. There are OS-es (kernels and userspace) written in java and other languages. You would have to write a small bootstrapper in C and/or ASM, launch the v8 engine, but after that you'd be flying. Maybe. Probably. No idea.

open this link and find the horror inside

I mean you could probably write a whole OS in JS since it's a Turing complete language and all, you'd just have to build most of the toolchain yourself and probably extend the language.

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r u ready to WALK: Sep 29, 2001

Just write a VM, it's quicker

https://vice.janicek.co/c64/programs/demos/?search=&page=1

# ? Nov 19, 2017 08:51

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

BSD in C++??? It's called Mac/OS/X System 10.0, OP.

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Stanley Pain: Jun 16, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

I heard this node.js thing is pretty popular. Let's schedule a meeting so we can discuss how to implement this vertically.

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BangersInMyKnickers: Nov 3, 2004; I have a thing for courageous dongles

Faith For Two posted:

I'm contributing!

code:

int main(int argc, char** argv, char** envp)
{
    //todo
}

I'm from security and I am here to review your code. What is this #include business and are you creating a vulnerability with it?

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mobby_6kl: Aug 9, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Faith For Two posted:

I'm contributing!

code:

int main(int argc, char** argv, char** envp)
{
    //todo
}

I was about to chew you out for not returning 0 as expected but it seems that it will do it implicitly. You're safe for now.

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