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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Kim Jong Il posted:

It hasn't by the eye test, and it hasn't by the advanced metrics. Bird also actually understands the difference between balls and strikes, and I'm also going by the scouting projections where the Yankees apparently love Bird and see him as a 30 HR bat, but there was at least the NYPost report suggesting they're not that high on Adnujar.


I'm not suggesting giving up elite prospects. But "don't even need" is wrong. Pitching is a bigger need, but adding more offense and better defense would improve the team. Subbing Machado for Andujar probably means they would have won 2 more games up to this point.

Andujar is slugging 500 in the majors as a 23 year old rookie.... The people who can't wait to dump him are awfully quick to give up on that. You are probably right about them not being high on him though just based on how they handled 3B coming out of spring training but that doesn't mean they are right or that it's a good idea.

They must have 1 cameraman who's job it is to show Lindor clapping and jawing like an idiot after every play.

mcmagic fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Jul 15, 2018

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Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Andujar has a 120 wRC+ going into tonight so while his pitch recognition (really, his BB%) could certainly get better, he's a positive offensively.

Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jul 15, 2018

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Inspector_666 posted:

Andujar has a 120 wRC+ going into tonight so while his pitec recognition (really, his BB%) could certainly get better, he's a positive offensively.

The Yankees seem to have enough shoddy infield D to go around with everyone but Didi this season...

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
I have a hard time calling what Andujar did on that last play "shoddy D" and not just failing to make a tough play.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Inspector_666 posted:

I have a hard time calling what Andujar did on that last play "shoddy D" and not just failing to make a tough play.

Romine's non catch on the throw to home was the shoddy part of that play. They should had that out at home.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

mcmagic posted:

Romine's non catch on the throw to home was the shoddy part of that play. They should had that out at home.

Bird's throw was high for the context of making that tag, but yes.

Hard to complain about the Yankees having shoddy D given Romine's little league homer though.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Going into the break 4.5 back... Not great. This game was a pretty pathetic offensive performance. They really need Gleyber and Sanchez to come back.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

There’s only so much you can do about a team that’s on pace to win 106 games. Boston will come back to earth and it’s on the Yankees to take advantage of this super weak second half schedule

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Carlosologist posted:

There’s only so much you can do about a team that’s on pace to win 106 games. Boston will come back to earth and it’s on the Yankees to take advantage of this super weak second half schedule

This is the key, they gotta start beating up bad teams.

ihatepants
Nov 5, 2011

Let the burning of pants commence. These things drive me nuts.



It doesn’t help that the team is approaching about a month now playing .500 baseball (12-11 since sweeping the M’s from June 19-21), mostly against bad teams. That almost perfectly coincides with Sanchez’s injury, though, so getting him back will be great.

They do really need to get some starting pitchers before the trade deadline, though. German has pitched worse than Sonny Gray for a couple of months now, but unlike Gray, he doesn’t even have a history of pitching well. Since mid-May: German-52IP, 6.48 ERA; Gray-57IP, 5.15 ERA

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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ihatepants posted:

It doesn’t help that the team is approaching about a month now playing .500 baseball (12-11 since sweeping the M’s from June 19-21), mostly against bad teams. That almost perfectly coincides with Sanchez’s injury, though, so getting him back will be great.

They do really need to get some starting pitchers before the trade deadline, though. German has pitched worse than Sonny Gray for a couple of months now, but unlike Gray, he doesn’t even have a history of pitching well. Since mid-May: German-52IP, 6.48 ERA; Gray-57IP, 5.15 ERA

Sanchez wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire. Hopefully when he comes back he's the good version of himself....

Kim Jong Il
Aug 16, 2003
German is weird. Like, I'd say he should be a reliever, but he can actually go a few innings. And he's usually really good outside of his fuckups, but when he fucks up, boy. He's honestly been way more impressive than Gray this year. And he's clearly better than the Luis Cessa/Bryan Mitchell/David Hale types. Maybe he could be the new Mendoza? Even though the Yankees apparently still have the magic long man machine humming along with Warren and now Cole being pretty good.

It's almost like he's Ricky Nolasco in that he pitches worse than his numbers say he should, but he's honestly not that far off from being a poor man's 2017 Tanaka. Like, I trust him way, way more than I would Happ, who just sucks and I want nowhere near the team.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

I feel that German can be a super relief ace like Betances was from 2014-2016. all the stuff is there but the longevity factor isn't, so I feel that if the Yankees add a starter it would probably be for the best for them to move German to the pen so his stuff plays up even more

Accident Underwater
Oct 21, 2005

You look like a star!
The couple of swing and misses German got on balls in the dirt several inches outside to righties yesterday were so amazing.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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If they trade for a pitcher I would rather see them have German start in AAA than go to the pen. He has 3 major league pitches, there is no reason he can't start going forward.

DaStampede
Feb 8, 2018

Nothing like a subway series to get us back on track

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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DaStampede posted:

Nothing like a subway series to get us back on track

Not loving these pitching matchups...

ihatepants
Nov 5, 2011

Let the burning of pants commence. These things drive me nuts.



Frazier was removed from the game today in the 2nd inning because he got concussed again. Couldn’t have come at a worse time with the trade deadline coming up.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

ihatepants posted:

Frazier was removed from the game today in the 2nd inning because he got concussed again. Couldn’t have come at a worse time with the trade deadline coming up.

Also just in general concussions are bad and that matters way more.

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.
Boston has a really loving good team and we're not going to compete for the division with starting pitching like this.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

mikeraskol posted:

Boston has a really loving good team and we're not going to compete for the division with starting pitching like this.

Please dont turn into McMagic

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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mikeraskol posted:

Boston has a really loving good team and we're not going to compete for the division with starting pitching like this.

German has to go down. If he can't pitch against this awful lineup without digging a huge hole, he shouldn't be in the rotation.

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.

Paul Zuvella posted:

Please dont turn into McMagic

It’s not mcmagic to think you’re team is really good but also realize that they have to compete with a 112-win pace Boston while starting Domingo German and Sonny Gray.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Paul Zuvella posted:

Please dont turn into McMagic

Reality is what it is. No matter who says it.

This is embarrassing.

1 for 10 with RISP.


Remember when Gary was a guy you wanted up with guys on base?

mcmagic fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jul 21, 2018

yankeehomo
Jul 20, 2018
I'm fully on the Carlos Martinez train at this point. Yeah he's expensive and he's been Bad™ since coming off the DL but we're in a pennant race, let's roll the dice. Or bring up Lasagna again because how much worse could he be?

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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yankeehomo posted:

I'm fully on the Carlos Martinez train at this point. Yeah he's expensive and he's been Bad™ since coming off the DL but we're in a pennant race, let's roll the dice. Or bring up Lasagna again because how much worse could he be?

They just need a warm body thats why Happ is fine. The price for Martinez is going to be stomach turning.

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Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

yankeehomo posted:

I'm fully on the Carlos Martinez train at this point. Yeah he's expensive and he's been Bad™ since coming off the DL but we're in a pennant race, let's roll the dice. Or bring up Lasagna again because how much worse could he be?

Loisisga has shoulder inflammation.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

Martinez probably has one of the more affordable contacts out there. 5/70 but the last two years are team options at 17M and 18M respectively. Because of that, he would be tough to pry away from St. Louis if they do bottom out and decide to sell. Have to imagine STL starts by asking for Andujar + two topish prospects

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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If Gary is going to play like he did tonight and for most of the first half they are going to have zero chance to catch boston anyway.

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast
Please refer to the Favorite Baseball Players thread for my thoughts on Carlos Martinez. You could offer the entire Yankees farm system and I'd be offended. I love CarMart and never want to see him leave. If the Cardinals do trade him and you mistreat him in any way, my god will I be upset.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Martinez is the porn guy, right?

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast

Paul Zuvella posted:

Martinez is the porn guy, right?

Among other things, yes. Strongly recommend reading the lobbying post in the favorite players thread for more information or, at a minimum, his piece in The Players Tribune.

Kim Jong Il
Aug 16, 2003
I'd rather roll the dice on Sheffield over Happ. But Andujar in a package for someone good is a good idea.

yankeehomo
Jul 20, 2018
And Martinez is hurt lol never mind. Got obliqued. Unless Cash can leverage that into a ridiculous discount, I don't think it's meant to be.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Kim Jong Il posted:

I'd rather roll the dice on Sheffield over Happ. But Andujar in a package for someone good is a good idea.

There are no pitchers available worth trading Andujar for. You're massively downgrading at 3B by trading him.

Holy poo poo, boston lost? Christmas comes early!

I found our 5th starter

https://twitter.com/anthonyfenech/status/1020837432592302082

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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1021088767963213825


uhhhhhhh

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Ahaha

Monday_
Feb 18, 2006

Worked-up silent dork without sex ability seeks oblivion and demise.
The Great Twist
Make it happen, Cash.

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Cashman you do know what "addition via subtraction" is, right?

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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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At least they miss DeGrom..

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