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Eh, this is another thing where some kind of limited war system would help. France historically opposed the imperial side but in game the “Protestant league” is inevitably some combo of France, Russia, Ottomans, and Poland, and all of them go all in with hundreds of thousands of troops and need to be full occupied which is definitely not “historic.” Like in my Serbia game there were like three germans in the Protestant camp, the “league war” was basically a giant weird crusade against the ottos, which was good for me but thematically very lame
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THE BAR posted:His point still stands. Not really. The objection is the Catholic defender of the faith being able to join the protestant league, that it's France in this particular case is immaterial to that. The Defender of the Faith title is pretty much entirely a gameplay conceit, not actual history (yes, the title existed, but it had essentially nothing in common with how it works in game).
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Even in ingame terms, it still looks like a case of France defending Catholicism against itself.
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Going for True Heir of Timur (need all of India by 1550). Am I too delayed? I thought it was going well, but I got delayed by a 10 year regency and only just formed Mughals. Mewat (4 provinces) is my only vassal. Still allied with my original allies of Mamluks, Uzbek, Khorasan, Fars, and Sistan. SurgicalOntologist fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 6, 2021 |
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You should get papal authority for force converting countries. Also I didn’t understand how the second last reform works so now I need to reconquer like half the HRE.
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Finished my Kongo game and got African Power  Three hellwars versus GigaOttomans because they would not stop allying my next North African targets I’d like to try for an achievement run that’s maybe a little more tall-friendly, any suggestions?
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Switzerlake is fun I guess 99 provinces isn't exactly "tall" but it does dictate your expansion a little bit instead of just blobbing.
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Spaghetti Western is pretty fun and you could absolutely make a tall texas
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SurgicalOntologist posted:Going for True Heir of Timur (need all of India by 1550). Am I too delayed? I thought it was going well, but I got delayed by a 10 year regency and only just formed Mughals. It's honestly gonna be tight. If you do a few truce breaks you should be okay, but you need to gun it on ADM.
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TheFlyingLlama posted:Spaghetti Western is pretty fun and you could absolutely make a tall texas Unrelatedly, I think Texas should have access to prussian monarchy. If you're gonna make the meme tag, go hard on it.
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SurgicalOntologist posted:I got delayed by a 10 year regency and only just formed Mughals. When playing as a Muslim nation, those 10 year regencies may not actually last 10 years. If your primary religion is Islam then you have a chance to get an event to replace the regency with an adult uncle, at the cost of legitimacy and prestige.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Unrelatedly, I think Texas should have access to prussian monarchy. If you're gonna make the meme tag, go hard on it. Stratocratic Republic is right there.
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Just came across this in one of the Facebook groups. Looks like it will be a long war.
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Haha that's terrible and I love it. Even the pun.
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Poil posted:Haha that's terrible and I love it. especially the pun.
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So I'm Lithuania dreaming of creating the unholy union of Uncommonwealth. I've finally used the Restoration of Union CB on Poland. Done, the war is won. And now to create PLC I need Poland to have 32 provinces (or cities as tooltip says). They have 38. I didn't know for sure but expected unions to allow for province grabbing, just like vassals. But it doesn't seem to be allowed. I don't see a way to reduce my junior partner in union. I can always lose some wars but it's so gamey I don't want to think about. Are there any ways to reduce my union vassal? Or should I just wait for 50 years and eat it the usual way?
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ilitarist posted:So I'm Lithuania dreaming of creating the unholy union of Uncommonwealth. I've finally used the Restoration of Union CB on Poland. Done, the war is won. And now to create PLC I need Poland to have 32 provinces (or cities as tooltip says). They have 38. I didn't know for sure but expected unions to allow for province grabbing, just like vassals. But it doesn't seem to be allowed. I don't see a way to reduce my junior partner in union. I can always lose some wars but it's so gamey I don't want to think about. I think you'll have to wait them out unless you want to lose some wars.
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In my current prussia game, Perm broke away from muscovy somehow, so russia never set upthe siberian colonisation. I also somehow ended up with a PU over Hungary and i have no idea how. Its nice to have a big junior partner though
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Here's my current Lithuania game. It looks like a reliable rule: if you hamper Muscovy early on it can't beat Eastern hordes. Then even if they colonize Siberia it will be too late.
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So I’ve got the second last reform but HRE members can still ally other nations- then if I declare war against those nations they join against me and are no longer vassals? That sucks- especially as you can’t enforce “join the empire” against secondary participants.
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Don't smack the button early and instead just let AE bleed off and make sure your rep is maxed first. Shouldn't have many, if any, decide to leave then. E: Misread. They shouldn't be able to ally anyone as they're vassals ???
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Rynoto posted:Don't smack the button early and instead just let AE bleed off and make sure your rep is maxed first. Shouldn't have many, if any, decide to leave then. I’ll take some screenshots but I definitely just lost Switzerland because they were allied to Ragusa  Is it maybe because they keep their previous alliances? Lots of them are allied to each other as well.
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ilitarist posted:Here's my current Lithuania game. Muscovy doesn't get the Siberian Frontier idea, so it's really unlikely that they go colonizing unless they form Russia
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Jay Rust posted:What do you do if you’re at very high on Aggressive Expansion already but find out your rich neighbour has become friendless and alone and is just ripe for the plucking? Attack them and sit on their occupied stuff for as long as possible (don’t take the wargoal)
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Rynoto posted:Don't smack the button early and instead just let AE bleed off and make sure your rep is maxed first. Shouldn't have many, if any, decide to leave then. Nah I think you had it right the first time, OP probably didn’t realise that any electors who don’t support the reform at the time it’s passed won’t become vassals and didn’t notice until they went to war
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Jay Rust posted:What do you do if you’re at very high on Aggressive Expansion already but find out your rich neighbour has become friendless and alone and is just ripe for the plucking? praise god that i have truces with all but no more than three of my potential coalitionists
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Jay Rust posted:What do you do if you’re at very high on Aggressive Expansion already but find out your rich neighbour has become friendless and alone and is just ripe for the plucking? I'd probably just take over the neighbor and then hope the AE isn't that bad or that any potential coalition isn't that big. But then again I also just sat for like 15 or 20 years working to get myself out from under a giant coalition.
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I just had a TO to Prussia game get bricked because I forgot to leave the Protestant League before trying to vassalize Brandenburg (so I would be more likely to become emperor after we won). We had beefy ottomans so it was basically a free win, but the dumbass AI declared while half the league wouldn't accept and it was 10:1. I mean I could probably live through it but what's the point of playing Prussia if you're not going to do the meme where you become Emperor as Germany? Doesn't help that Brandenburg had been emperor for ages but lost it to Austria once they got flipped by rebels, so they went from weak to insanely strong with all that emperor manpower. Also loving Russia kept calling me into wars so I had no manpower despite almost 1k a month regen.
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Jay Rust posted:What do you do if you’re at very high on Aggressive Expansion already but find out your rich neighbour has become friendless and alone and is just ripe for the plucking? Find as many nearby allies as you can and hope that the eventual coalition will accept their lands in the peace screen. Hopefully those allies are big enough to have enough land to give away and that they also don't betray you when the time comes for the defensive war.
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yikes! posted:Attack them and sit on their occupied stuff for as long as possible (don’t take the wargoal) Yah. Just occupy everything, loot every province completely, then finally peace out for max cash + war reps + transfer trade. Maybe get them to release a minor tag or two, which you might diplovassalize.
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Another trick that might still work: occupy most of their poo poo, but leave one fortress. Demand a peace where they give you that fortress. They will deny it, but that tanks their stability. Done right, you can ruin their economy, leave them with max war exhaustion AND -3 stability. And no revanchism. Then kill them some more after the truce is over.
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No.. just sit on it until your AE ticks down and take the land
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Groke posted:Another trick that might still work: occupy most of their poo poo, but leave one fortress. Demand a peace where they give you that fortress. They will deny it, but that tanks their stability. don’t think the ai gets stab hits unfortunately, but it resets the war exhaustion call for peace ticker
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Wow remind me to never ally goons
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Jay Rust posted:Wow remind me to never ally goons Excuse me, but I am extremely faithful to my allies. I still have Albania as a march in my Byzantium game in the early 1700s, despite the fact that I could get a national decision if I was to return them to being a vassal and then annexed them.
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allies are for giving your enemies forts to siege while you do the work
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My main use for them is that they’ll send their stacks to halfway across the world to meet the enemy AI stacks doing the same, while I focus on actually sieging down the tag I want to fight. Like in my current Serbia game, millions of poles and turks have died uselessly in the Caucasus during the fifteen sieges of Constantinople Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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oddium posted:allies are for giving your enemies forts to siege while you do the work I use vassals for this, and then forget when I annex them and now I have no ablative NPC armor
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