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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Stay away from this awesome show if you value such things as joy or love

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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Escobarbarian posted:

Stay away from this awesome show if you value such things as joy or love

ENOUGH KOOKY WEIRDNESS BACK TO FEMINISM

Yer Burnt posted:

Most of the episodes were masterpieces.

Looten Plunder posted:

A really interesting family that I want to spend more time with.

Escobarbarian posted:

One of the most loving and humanistic pieces of television ever seen.





31. BETTER THINGS (FX)
UP 61
25 points, listed 4 times

HIGHEST CLIMBER


And that rounds out #s 40-31. There's some solid entries in there without a doubt. I think A Series of Unfortunate Events in particular was hurt by coming out right at the start of the year. But time to look forward now cause we're about to break into the top 30. Where will your favourite show wind up?

Rarity fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jan 14, 2018

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

THIS SEASON WAS A MASTERPIECE AND MADE ME CRY SO MUCH

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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We're diving into the top 30 now so you'd better prepare yourselves. Don't forget the hairspray and the neon spandex for this next one!

GobiasIndustries posted:

I had no idea this was even a thing that was happening until the day it was released and it blew me away.

Gluten Freeman posted:

I'm a sucker for theatrical action.

DivisionPost posted:

I could watch this cast do this forever, especially if it's set to more of that bitchin' 80s soundtrack.

Rarity posted:

My two favourite things in the world are wrestling and female empowerment.





30. GLOW (NETFLIX)
NEW ENTRY
26 points, listed 6 times


Oh man, the first season of this culminates in a match between Zoya the Destroyer and Liberty Belle while Pat Benetar's ďInvincibleĒ plays over the top and if that doesn't sound like the best thing to you then you have no joy.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Very loveable and just pure fun with a role Marc Maron was built for.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

That show was kinda fun. But it was one of those shows I totally forgot existed, when I made my list. To be fair I didn't really put a lot of effort in there.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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Yeah I can understand GLOW getting overlooked here. It's delightful and fun but it not as emotionally hefty as a lot of the shows in our top 40 which have much more memorable moments.

I have no loving clue what this next show is about.

And More posted:

This season is absolutely insane.

bou posted:

Glorious insanity with tons of lovable characters and a love to the little details.

Tiggum posted:

This is a show about bumbling idiots.

Spatula City posted:

This show is like someone drilled a hole into my brain and found exactly the kind of TV I would want to watch.





29. DIRK GENTLY'S HOLISTIC DETECTIVE AGENCY (BBC AMERICA)
NEW ENTRY
28 points, listed 5 times


Ok I read the Wikipedia description and I still don't get it. How the hell did Frodo end up in this?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Created by Hollywoodís hottest young rapist, Max Landis!

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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Escobarbarian posted:

Created by Hollywoodís hottest young rapist, Max Landis!

Oh god, I just checked how many of our Top 40 involve someone at the centre of sexual assault/harrassment scandal and um... it's a lot.

Quick, someone vote for something light and fluffy!

Andrew_1985 posted:

Doesnít take itself too serious, which makes it an easy watch.

GobiasIndustries posted:

Doesn't take itself too seriously, just fun all around.

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:

As soon as the show accepted itself for what it really was it went from eh to amazing.

bou posted:

They make every stupid thing work.





28. LEGENDS OF TOMORROW (CW)
UP 43
29 points, listed 6 times


Knew I could count on you guys.

NO WAIT MARC GUGGENHEIM gently caress

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Ok itís only below two of my top ten, this I can deal with.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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X-O posted:

I think it managed to really up the stakes and take a really neat direction with the story this year.

Zaggitz posted:

Just some good old fashioned sci-fi-rear end sci-fi.

CeeJee posted:

It's the year of Time Travel.

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:

If time travel is your thing, it doesn't get much smarter than this.





27. TRAVELERS (SHOWCASE)
UP 35
29 points, listed 5 times, #1 spot 1 time

BEST INTERNATIONAL SHOW


If there's a constant in this world it's that Canada will make niche genre television and Roger Cross will appear in it. I don't even know for sure that he has appeared in Travelers but I'm already sure that I'm right.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

He was in Dirk Gently, so close enough.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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Escobarbarian posted:

He was in Dirk Gently, so close enough.

Give it time.

Rarity posted:

High concept comedy with great execution.

Zaggitz posted:

This show has no business being as good as it was overall.

Rocksicles posted:

I've shoved this down every Rathole i could find.

Cart posted:

If itís good enough for honorary black belt and certified door expert James Cameron itís good enough for me.





26. FUTURE MAN (HULU)
NEW ENTRY
30 points, listed 6 times


If this show has taught me anything, and it's safe to say that it hasn't, it's that cocaine has literally zero negatives and we should all do a bunch of cocaine.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

This was such a nice surprise for the end of the year! Episode 7 especially is loving hilarious.

Yer Burnt
Feb 26, 2007



Rarity posted:



NO WAIT MARC GUGGENHEIM gently caress
He's still in the clear, right? I mean, other than pissing off the Arrow fandom for fun.
I think it's Andrew Kreisberg who tarnishes things.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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Yer Burnt posted:

He's still in the clear, right? I mean, other than pissing off the Arrow fandom for fun.
I think it's Andrew Kreisberg who tarnishes things.

Yeah I got them mixed up. Mea culpa.

Ok, we're into the top 25 and I think that means it's time to take stock. The competition is still wide open between the shows competing for that #1 position. Could it be Stranger Things? Or potentially The Leftovers? Or how about Twin Peaks? The field is still open with all the heavy hitters remaining in play.

Well, almost all of them.

Jerusalem posted:

What is real? What is true?

Yer Burnt posted:

A fantastic meditation into what makes (true) stories become real.

Spatula City posted:

He wants each of us to ask ourselves how much we still believe that good will triumph over evil.

Zaggitz posted:

Still a better show than the Leftovers!





25. FARGO (FX)
RE-ENTRY
31 points, listed 7 times


That's right, Fargo comes in with what can only be called a disappointing placing of #25 after a season that was considerably off the pace compared to its predecessors. But it's not all over for Noah Hawley yet. He's still got one dog left in the fight as Legion battles it out for the victory. Will it be able to bring it home? There's only place where you can find out!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Ha I predicted in Discord this would be between 15-25. Was JUST right!

Also gently caress u Zaggitz

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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DivisionPost posted:

A hell of a season, backed by a hell of a performance.

karrethuun posted:

Much better written than I was expecting.

Spatula City posted:

The showrunner and writers turned out to not be assholes.

achillesforever6 posted:

Nothing is glamorous in this show, its ugly and mean.





24. THE PUNISHER (NETFLIX)
NEW ENTRY
32 points, listed 9 times


Somewhere in world Finn Jones's lip trembles. One solitary tear runs down his cheek. But seriously, there was a lot of pressure on the Punisher to bring back some credibility to Marvel Netflix after Iron Fist poo poo the bed and the show did not disappoint. (Man, I can't wait for Jessica Jones to beat loads of prestige shows next year)

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Donít forget Defenders! That poo poo the bed pretty hard too!

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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Escobarbarian posted:

Donít forget Defenders!

But I really want to

Oh man, you can tell things are starting to get serious now. We've just seen two strong contenders fall by the wayside. But that's the way it goes in the TVIV Poll of the Year. There are no easy choices. Sometimes big names don't quite deliver like they should. Here's another entry that not quite lived up to its normal standard.

Arist posted:

Itís also just loving incredible when itís firing on all cylinders.

DarklyDreaming posted:

Sometimes popular shows are popular because they're good.

Looten Plunder posted:

The internet is trying it's best to ruin this show for me, but they haven't succeeded just yet.

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:

97 MORE SEASONS.





23. RICK AND MORTY (ADULTSWIM)
RE-ENTRY
35 points, listed 7 times


Yes, Rick and Morty comes in at #23, its first time showing up outside the top 10. The episodes were as strong as ever but the combination of a toxic fanbase, Dan Harmon's personal issues and gratuitous corporate synergy really pushed us away. Here's hoping that whenever season 4 comes around they can leave all the bullshit behind and focus on doing what they do best because the show is entertaining as hell.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Man, this really had its best season yet and itís such a shame most of the press was about misogynist McNugget fuckboys

Arist
Feb 13, 2012




Oven Wrangler

Really surprised that's the lowest thing on my list.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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Arist posted:

Really surprised that's the lowest thing on my list.

The Deuce is still in contention

Corte posted:

The show fascinated me.

Lost Season posted:

This show was great, and full of great performances.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

I appreciated that the show didn't go out of its way to show you the grisly crimes as they happened. It was unpleasant enough hearing about them.

X-O posted:

This was probably my most anticipated show of the year and it didn't disappoint.





22. MINDHUNTER (NETFLIX)
NEW ENTRY
35 points, listed 6 times


Oh hey it's that OTHER show from a celebrated movie director called David! It's weird, you wouldn't expect a TV show from David loving Fincher to fly under the radar but somehow this feels like one of the most overlooked shows of the year.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

The mediocre pilot probably put a lot of people off this show. Which is a shame because it really is very good

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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We're getting close to the top 20 now but we've still got one show to push through before we get there and... welp, this is awkward.

Looten Plunder posted:

So much memorable and creative stuff here.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

I love this brilliant, heartfelt, deeply personal show.

Zaggitz posted:

Got real experimental in a way I really liked.

fancy stats posted:

It's millennial as hell, but it's charmingly so.





21. MASTER OF NONE (NETFLIX)
RE-ENTRY
37 points, listed 7 times


Yeah...

So how about that top 20, guys! Where do you expect your favourite show to end up?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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The heat is sure turning up as we enter the top 20. The competition is fiercer than ever before with less space available and so many of our favourites still to make an appearance. Just who could walk away with that coveted #1 spot? Will it be The Good Place? Will it be Mr. Robot? Will it be Twin Peaks? We're not far away from finding out! But first let's take a look at #20...

ShakeZula posted:

Among the very best of television.

karrethuun posted:

I'm a fanboy, this will always be on my list.

Cart posted:

Nothing has me hyped more each week.

Shneak posted:

Some of the blockbuster bullshit delivered and delivered well.

Rarity posted:

The battles were badass.

Pan Dulce posted:

It's all a girl could wish for in her medieval fantasy show.





20. GAME OF THRONES (HBO)
DOWN 13
38 points, listed 9 times


It may have been a quiet year for Game of Thrones this year but it did pick up one accolade that deserves recognising. Thanks to this year's poll Game of Thrones is now the only show to appear in every single TVIV Poll since we started six years ago. And in all that time it's near placed lower than #23. That's one hell of an achievement.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Some dumb bits, but also massive dragons totally loving poo poo up gently caress yeah

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!



Rarity posted:

It may have been a quiet year for Game of Thrones this year but it did pick up one accolade that deserves recognising. Thanks to this year's poll Game of Thrones is now the only show to appear in every single TVIV Poll since we started six years ago. And in all that time it's near placed lower than #23. That's one hell of an achievement.

Too bad it will miss this year since it's not airing until next.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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bagrada posted:

Too bad it will miss this year since it's not airing until next.

This is true. But I think it's fair to say that it's going to be a long time before another show beats achievement.

CeeJee posted:

Goes above and beyond.

bou posted:

All the buttons pressed - all the points!

HorseRenoir posted:

My obligatory "serious" sci-fi pick.

karrethuun posted:

For a scifi show its well written/acted.

Regy Rusty posted:

Iíve never seen another science fiction show with this kind of commitment to detail.

Heavy Metal posted:

Space!





19. THE EXPANSE (SYFY)
DOWN 3
38 points, listed 7 times, #1 spot 2 times


And here's The Expanse coming in for it's second top 20 placing in a row. Fair credit is due, for a niche sci-fi show it punches above its weight.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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ShakeZula posted:

My only complaint was that there was only eight episodes to watch.

Regy Rusty posted:

A huge surprise.

X-O posted:

A real surprise to me.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

What a revelation!

Escobarbarian posted:

What a crazy idea!!

CeeJee posted:

The best Marvel show of the year.





18. THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL (AMAZON)
NEW ENTRY
39 points, listed 8 times, #1 spot 1 time


It seems like every year we get one show sneaking in before the death that upsets everyone's plans for their lists. This year that show was The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. It snuck out in December and set Couch Chat on fire with praise and now it's finished #18 on our poll. Who knows how well it could have placed if more people had had a chance to see it?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

I LOVE THIS SHOW SO MUCH it is so funny and adorable

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

I've seen that thread a bunch of times. And every time I read that title, I read Ms Marvel for a second.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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When you look at the creators responsible for the shows left in our countdown you really have to admit that we're living in a golden age of television. Gilligan, Lynch, Esmail, Schur, Simon, Fuller, Lindelof, Hawley. It's like a Who's Who of TV right there. But will one of them be responsible for our next show?

Rarity posted:

Really well written and really well acted.

Looten Plunder posted:

Loved the cast, loved the setting, loved the pacing.

Escobarbarian posted:

It's just FUN and entertaining.

Arist posted:

Itís rich and nuanced in the best of ways.

Open Source Idiom posted:

It's good, but in a tough gristly way.

Jerusalem posted:

It can be equal parts depressing and inspiring.





17. THE DEUCE (HBO)
NEW ENTRY
39 points, listed 7 times, #1 spot 1 time


Yes once again David Simon puts out an incredible story that paints a rich tapestry for a city falling to moral vice and once again it's ignored and not given the recognition it deserves. This #17 placing is just proof that more people need to be watching David Simon's work.

Rarity fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jan 14, 2018

And More
Jun 19, 2013

How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?



cant cook creole bream posted:

I've seen that thread a bunch of times. And every time I read that title, I read Ms Marvel for a second.

I did exactly the same. Honestly, who can even keep track of all these superhero shows anymore?


Rarity posted:

David Simon

No one had told me.

And More fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jan 14, 2018

Arist
Feb 13, 2012




Oven Wrangler

Really thought this would end up higher, huh

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

This is definitely shaping up to be Simonís best since The Wire. And itís just drat FUN in a way none of his other shows have been.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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And More posted:

No one had told me.



Arist posted:

Really thought this would end up higher, huh

Agreed. This is the biggest contention I have with the final list. The Deuce should not be this low. Oh well, let's see what finished above i...

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:

I had a feeling this was going to be good.

HorseRenoir posted:

There's not too much stuff like it being made today.

Regy Rusty posted:

What more could I ask for.

bagrada posted:

It's also the only show I brought for one of my friends to try to get them to watch that they actually watched and enjoyed.

adhuin posted:

It's an optimistic, inspirational and funny show about a better future.

DivisionPost posted:

Passion and heart went a long way for me in this lovely year.





16. THE ORVILLE (FOX)
NEW ENTRY
40 points, listed 9 times, #1 spot 1 time


IT'S NOT BETTER THAN THE DEUCE

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

LOL gently caress THIS POLL

Arist
Feb 13, 2012




Oven Wrangler

:|

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

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If I didn't have fifteen more shows to get through I would stop posting in protest

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