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Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

I don't think the show prides itself on realism at all. I have no idea what you mean by that. The androids alone are totally magi-science.

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InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT



drunken officeparty posted:

Why is incredible robot technology being used only for a theme park anyway?

Duh, so you can go somewhere to gently caress the robots instead of having to explain to your wife why the garage is full of old robots in boxes every year when you do the spring cleaning.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

why donald duck never wears pants but he puts a towel on his waist after the shower?

- Jerry Seinfeld

drunken officeparty posted:

Why is incredible robot technology being used only for a theme park anyway? Arnold (PBUH), at least, wanted to create true life. Was he always going to subjugate robots that were then indestinguishable from humans, or give up the theme park thing when he achieved it? And still why the gently caress the theme park or only the theme park. There's so much more important things you could do with near perfect robot tech.

because its all owned by an insane person who wants this revolutionary technology to be used in a cowboy LARP simulator. Then people like William figure out the hosts are beyond simple funtime pizza bear robots. So they convince Delos to invest and try to learn more about what the hosts actually are, and what they can do, because if they really are what they are rumoured to be...

Businesses would want host labour forces with no laws protecting them.
Individuals would want host wives/husbands/souped up real dolls that can actually mimic themselves and go to work in their place, etc.
Militaries would want legions of soldiers that can be programmed to feel no pain and also theres a little laser pointer thingy that repairs soft tissue instantaneously and it seems to work on humans as well.
Governments/Spy agencies would want to be able to replace foreign leaders with controllable host puppets.

But you've got to get the information/data out of the park because even working "clandestine" inside the park can't work if you never really know who's a host and who is a human. Look at what Bernard did to the shiny red ball room.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002



No one has said the underlying tech hasn't disseminated, but I'd figure the actual "convincing host/near conscious robot" technology is kept in the park for any number of reasons: It's not needed and too expensive for most purposes, greedy IP owners, spooked politicians/populace worried about Manchurian Candidates and robo-body snatcher scenarios, Ford's machinations trying to keep it from getting out.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

drunken officeparty posted:

But why was Ford like "ya know what, I invented this world changing technology and the best use? historical theme parks."

Re: other uses: literal slaves to abolish all human need to work forever. They have realistic emotions because of the theme park aspect. Make them dumbasses and you have human bodies without the moral quandry of slavery.

Why do they need human bodies? They can just make actual robots to do physical labor.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Cojawfee posted:

Why do they need human bodies? They can just make actual robots to do physical labor.

They could use faceless hosts as the ones we've seem this season

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

"TELL ME HOW TO GET PIG SEMEN OUT OF SUEDE" Club soda, fucktard.

Cojawfee posted:

Why do they need human bodies? They can just make actual robots to do physical labor.

Robots are more expensive. Ford or MiB said in S1 that the only reason they made the Hosts out of fleshybits was because it's cheaper. There is a highschool metaphor about the value of human life versus technology in there somewhere...

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002



Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

Robots are more expensive. Ford or MiB said in S1 that the only reason they made the Hosts out of fleshybits was because it's cheaper. There is a highschool metaphor about the value of human life versus technology in there somewhere...

Could be that it's cheaper to make Human Hosts that way but not factory automation style robots.

otoh I would really really like a glimpse of the outside world where all automation is done via some Hellraiser-ish nightmare fuel flesh factory all

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

I AM A GOOD ARTIST AND ALL-AROUND COOL GUY. BLUH BLUH BLUH.

They are using the tech for significant purposes. The robo-Delos experiment was attempt to invent immortality, and the show is constantly hinting that there's something big behind the scenes. If Ford is using the host tech to develop stuff on the level of eternal life then he'd probably be totally dismissive at the idea of using it for mere physical labor. Using the hosts as NPCs seems like a silly waste of time but it's the best way to develop convincing artificial life. Using the hosts for labor or spying or any other specialized job would be using the hosts to serve humanity; Ford and Arnold want to create a lifeform that will surpass us.

lifts cats over head
Jan 17, 2003

Antagonist: A bad man who drops things from the windows.

I think the reasons the potentially world changing technology is just in the park are:
-Ford is an artist and more concerned about creating his vision rather than raking in the profits, but he's still a greedy man so he doesn't want to share (also sharing would inhibit his ability to play god in the park)
-We don't actually know how big of a technological leap the hosts are compared to what is in the real world. We have to assume it's advanced but it could be comparable to a cutting edge processing chip in today's society.
-In a super capitalist world of the future having poor people do the menial labor might actually be cheaper than hosts.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

"TELL ME HOW TO GET PIG SEMEN OUT OF SUEDE" Club soda, fucktard.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Could be that it's cheaper to make Human Hosts that way but not factory automation style robots.

otoh I would really really like a glimpse of the outside world where all automation is done via some Hellraiser-ish nightmare fuel flesh factory all

Westworld is actually a Quake 2 prequel.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010



lifts cats over head posted:

-We don't actually know how big of a technological leap the hosts are compared to what is in the real world. We have to assume it's advanced but it could be comparable to a cutting edge processing chip in today's society.

Logan's reaction to the pitch meeting seems to imply it's quite a leap, even for their futuristic society.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?


Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

Westworld is actually a Quake 2 prequel.

Can't wait to see Maeve bust out the Double Rocket Jump.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Pigbuster posted:

. If Ford is using the host tech to develop stuff on the level of eternal life then he'd probably be totally dismissive at the idea of using it for mere physical labor.

Wasn't Ford doing exactly that in S1?

Lycus fucked around with this message at May 22, 2018 around 21:57

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?


Great comment from that YouTube C.R.E.A.M. video:

quote:

Code rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the shogun
Telepathic Maeve, y'all.


Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002



WampaLord posted:

Logan's reaction to the pitch meeting seems to imply it's quite a leap, even for their futuristic society.

But that was at the pre-opening of the park era. Although I'd also totally buy that Delos didn't let any of it out even after buying them out and just sinking money into the immortality thing.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESpB9J3jCOw

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010



^^^ That's really cool, seeing them side by side like that

Intel&Sebastian posted:

But that was at the pre-opening of the park era. Although I'd also totally buy that Delos didn't let any of it out even after buying them out and just sinking money into the immortality thing.

It's clear that they heavily value their IP, so I'm pretty sure they haven't shared the robot tech with the wider world.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwqfoTOdXL4

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002



It's been 2.5 seasons and still all I can see is a McPoyle

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010



Has anyone brought up that Clem looked all super pale and dead in the episode 2 weeks ago but now she looks basically normal?

What's up with that?

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

why donald duck never wears pants but he puts a towel on his waist after the shower?

- Jerry Seinfeld

Intel&Sebastian posted:

It's been 2.5 seasons and still all I can see is a McPoyle

YOU GET SWORD STABBED!!!!

WampaLord posted:

Has anyone brought up that Clem looked all super pale and dead in the episode 2 weeks ago but now she looks basically normal?

What's up with that?
That bit where she saw her replacement and recited her lines silently was super sad, whatever's going on with her I hope she's getting fixed slowly

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

"My ugly duckling"

Cojawfee posted:

Why do they need human bodies? They can just make actual robots to do physical labor.

They can make bender bots with human hands to do human things like cooking and human heads to pleasure their masters.

ArmZ
Jun 5, 2004

You are what you want.





Grimey Drawer

Gonz posted:

Great comment from that YouTube C.R.E.A.M. video:


ugh

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006



Intel&Sebastian posted:

It's been 2.5 seasons and still all I can see is a McPoyle

I want him to get injured in one eye and have to wear an eyepatch.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


Wild adventures with Maeve is so much more entertaining than Dolores sub-plot.

It helps the Lee is so hilarious such as admitting to his laziness in recycling plots like a Call of Duty game designer.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

drunken officeparty posted:

I want him to get injured in one eye and have to wear an eyepatch.

What's wrong? Is it the eye? They made me feel self-conscious. Is it off putting? Does it look real?

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