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Didn't Maeve also have Felix max out her stats? I feel like that's a pretty important plot point there.
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Bust Rodd posted:Not Felix was definitely implicated in something pervy I thought he was feeling up the female hosts and being a general pervert.
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Argus Zant posted:No, you're thinking of Elsie getting that one guy in Livestock Management to let her look at the host that had tried to self-terminate. Maeve appealed to Felix's longing to be a Behavioral programmer, and... she made some kind of offer of assistance to Sylvester, I think? It's been a long-rear end time since I watched the show, but I think the idea was that she knew Syl had some kind of grander illusions as to what he wanted to do with his life, and Maeve offered to help him if he kept his mouth shut and went along with everything. Yep. That's right. I'll need to do a rewatch. Maybe this weened even when I hide from family after Thurs and Fri.
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Nov 23, 2017 04:48
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Open Source Idiom posted:As to why Sylvester doesn't just stupefy Maeve, particularly after she starts to blackmail him, gently caress knows. That's the plot hole. I was under the impression that after she had her stats maxed out, she didn't go offline anymore. Just sat absolutely still acting like she was, which she can, because robot. Sylvester would be dead before he could access her diagnostics, and he knew it. He also has no way of knowing if she set up some kind of deadman switch to inform the company of the very thing she's using to blackmail him. Allowing herself to be vulnerable due to downtime would be particularly stupid, which she isn't because of aforementioned stat maxing. E: yeah. I just watched part of 7 to verify something. Sylvester and Felix have a mini conference out in the hall and Sylvester says that when they take up to Behavior to give her admin access, they instead wipe her "because she'll be out". That implies hosts are never offline unless their personalities or memories are being altered. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Nov 25, 2017 19:33
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Collateral posted:Was she just sitting still after she burnt her body to a cinder? Probably. I just watched ep 7 and Sylvester and Felix have a mini conference out in the hall and Sylvester says that when they take up to Behavior to give her admin access, they instead wipe her "because she'll be out". That implies hosts are never offline unless their personalities or memories are being altered. There's really no need for them to be offline at any time other than when their mind is being worked on.
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Nov 25, 2017 23:08
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Bust Rodd posted:why no one had heard of Westworld until 2-3 years ago What? That's not true at all. It was well received when it came out and was fairly well known Sci-Fi flick through the 70s and 80s. Bust Rodd posted:It’s old and campy as hell dude I’d hard pass. But, yeah. It hasn't aged well, so your milage may vary with it. If you want to watch Nolan's practice run to Westworld, check out Person of Interest. He somehow managed to slip multi-season mind-gently caress story into a CBS mandated episodic procedural (to the point where the "procedural" part went out the window for the most part in the latter seasons). He also anticipated the half-season order for PoI's last season and managed to wrap everything up in satisfactory manner. It should still be on Netflix. Next to the Bolero sequence in Legion, the cold open to S03 E10 is some of the best TV I've seen.
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Norwegian Rudo posted:http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/22/person-of-interest-the-episodes-that-will-catch-you-up Just read the 1st page of the article. That'll be pretty much essential stuff for S01 and S02. The next page gets into some mild (and potentially big) spoilers. Not on anyone plot point, but just fact that some things have happened or exist. Even though it leaves out some good episodes, follow the guide for S01 and S02. S03 is where the show shifts from procedural of the week to the serialized plot being in the driver seat. Watch all of S03, S04 and S05.
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Dec 6, 2017 13:03
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Ravenfood posted:..but she, noticeably, doesn't leave the park when she can. This jumped out at me when I watched it too. I was thinking "suuuuure you can leave. Anytime you want, right? You're just turning away because you happened to think of rescuing your daughter right before you boarded the departure car." She only subverted the code she can get to. It's probably like a VM running over a deeper layer that's completely hidden from everyone. Also, I agree regarding the violent insurrection in the corporate offices. She gets set up over the season on how she's an extremely intelligent manipulator and getting some gunslingers to slaughter everyone is her plan? If she really wanted to maximize her escape, she'd do it with the least amount of casualties possible. Which maybe that's the point. Maybe it's part of the deeper code that may or may not be present that lead to the wanton violence. Jonathan Nolan has earned the benefit of the doubt with regards to all of this being deliberate story telling that have convincing reasons within the confines of the show. Person of Interest showed me he can deliver a story where events can have deep and subtle effects in the long term, and everything is happening for a reason.
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business hammocks posted:Didn’t we see that Ford’s decision tree for her involved commands to leave and infiltrate the mainland? I thought the point of her staying was that it was her will asserting itself for the first time, although having been determined by her prior life not under her own control it’s obviously not total freedom of will. It also makes the motivations for "burn it all" that much more opaque, since you think whoever investigates would be going over things with a fine-tooth comb and Maeve is clever enough to want to avoid showing her hand as much as possible. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 18:41
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Astroman posted:I though Ford's plan was for Maeve to get out into The Real World and start infiltrating and poo poo. Maybe? Or maybe he subverted it with something subtle in her code so it appears to her that she's exercising free-will.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:12
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LinkesAuge posted:I'd argue pain, discomfort and so on are just one layer of data processing / a simply more sophisticated algorithm. Well, that's more or less our brains, just a bunch of heuristic algorithms running in a highly parallelized state. "Consciousness" is probably emergent phenomenon of that. As for Free Will, if it exists it's vanishingly rare as most of us Skinner Box our way through our lives assigning post-hoc rationalizations to every action we take milliseconds after.
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Dec 8, 2017 15:00
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Bust Rodd posted:“Hey I been thinking...” LOL Yeah, the show should be titled Westworld: WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG
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Dec 8, 2017 15:09
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flatluigi posted:I just finished a rewatch of the entire series myself. It's a hell of a TV show and easily in my all-time top 5. Everyone should give it a shot while waiting for this to return. I can still remember when I was just a couple episodes in on S5 and while I knew, step by step, how the show got to this place narratively, I was still stunned at how a crime procedural slowly morphed into a dark, Orwellian science fiction serial. I am still amazed that this show: a) was on CBS of all stations. They are *not* known for shows that subvert formula. b) lasted long enough for Nolan to wrap up and end the show properly.
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Dec 9, 2017 15:08
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m watching POI S1 right now and I feel like you guys paint it with a bad brush. I’m 5 episodes in and it’s like a fun, inverted crime procedural because the main character isn’t a cop and is constantly doing cool crimes. I think we look back at S1 and "paint it with a bad brush", because compared to the roller coaster ride this show becomes, S1 is almost like a completely different show. However, I'm fan of watching through the entire season, especially for first watch. I think there are important character and plot beats sprinkled throughout that the other 4 use as a foundation.
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Dec 9, 2017 15:17
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Professor Shark posted:Watch the show you baby He probably has plans to get rid of his TV so he can smugly pretend not to know shows everyone is watching. "Game of what? I'm sorry, I don't even own a TV"
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Dec 19, 2017 23:40
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Bust Rodd posted:
John has probably financed boats for several orthopedic surgeons with all those knee shots. PS - Bear is the best.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I'm optimistic that S2 will feature a multi-episode arc with an IT team trying to squash the bug that is causing hosts to kill guests and maybe a moment when somebody tells them and they are like "did you file a ticket?" HAHAHAHA "Did you try turning off and back on? When you turn it off, please wait 10 seconds before turning it back on." Hold message "Many of our customers find they can solve problems themselves using our online knowledge base. You can get to that by logging into your account and..." "Sir, I'm showing this serial number is out of warranty. Do you have a service contract with us?"
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Dec 25, 2017 01:44
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Bust Rodd posted:Hey so John Nolan/Ramin Djawadi related: No spoilers, but you're coming up on the best episode.
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Dec 30, 2017 00:09
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I got my parents into it. They're a little over halfway through S3 and to quote my 74 year old mom, "It's starting to get a bit weird". But she's hanging in there. And SUPER mad about Carter. My dad absolutely loves it and how it subverts the usual episodic procedural.
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Jan 23, 2018 23:48
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Bust Rodd posted:Westworld S2: One of the parks is Parkworld
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Feb 8, 2018 01:18
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Professor Shark posted:I know it will never happen, but I would be insanely happy if there was a JurassicWorld and they used the old school, none CGI dinosaurs that were so terrifying to 5 year old me While there were a lot of practical FX in Jurassic Park, there was a poo poo-ton of CGI dinosaur stuff.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Closing the thread is a terrible idea.  Also, as ALWAYS happens when there's two threads for the same thing: Everyone will end up posting on one and the other will become a wasteland.
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