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dk2m
May 6, 2009
for the past few years, really strange videos started appearing featuring elsa from frozen as well as a host of other recognizable characters like spiderman, the joker, etc in extremely provocative and in nonsense situations. the storylines are usually incomprehensible, and also has recurring motifs of sexual fetishes, injuries, enemas, pregnancies, and crying

these videos often have upwards of hundreds of millions of views, few comments, and an almost 50/50 distribution of likes and dislikes. they can range from live action to animation. here's ethan from H3H3 productions breaking one down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBWf6Zvn0jQ

these videos are often nightmare fuel, seriously just watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=302&v=uXjJdv5fj5k

there are loving THOUSANDS of these kinds of videos with and some with literally half a billion views. it's absolutely insane and they are all targeted to kids, who will have a tablet in front of them and just let autoplay curate for them. these hosed up videos then start playing.

some channels even copy the same scenarios with difference characters. for example, there's a motif of kids drinking beer, getting intoxicated, and then injuring themselves. this same scenario is played with mickey mouse, minions, paw patrol, etc. this video goes in more detail: https://youtu.be/qlNKi5etxhk

the mainstream is starting to pick up on this because kids are getting exposed to these videos. there are a lot of theories and speculation on what is going on.

1) these videos are grooming children to normalize abusive and strange situations. some videos also have gibberish in the comments, theory is that these is some kind of code
2) this is a form of bot cancer - people have found a way to game youtube's algorithm using key words strings and let AI randomize stock videos to create these. this explains the animated ones but doesn't explain the live action ones, which have to have a director and actors.
3) it's some sort of psyop campaign intended to traumatize young children by introducing weird concepts at a very young age. most of the videos seemed to be created in russia or vietnam.
4) kids are just hosed up and respond well to gross videos. probably likely, and could be combined with #2 to exploit that.

anyway, whatever happened, the youtube algorithm and the way our system is designed to create profit from views has created something incredibly hosed up and bizarre.

some additional reading as well: https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-internet-c39c471271d2

i went down a rabbit hole with this poo poo, and it's equal parts fascinating and horrifying. the kids section on youtube is far more insidious than anything i've seen on the main site

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VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
Tim Pool just started doing some videos on this as well

part 2

putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION

dk2m posted:

for the past few years, really strange videos started appearing featuring elsa from frozen as well as a host of other recognizable characters like spiderman, the joker, etc in extremely provocative and in nonsense situations. the storylines are usually incomprehensible, and also has recurring motifs of sexual fetishes, injuries, enemas, pregnancies, and crying

these videos often have upwards of hundreds of millions of views, few comments, and an almost 50/50 distribution of likes and dislikes. they can range from live action to animation. here's ethan from H3H3 productions breaking one down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBWf6Zvn0jQ

these videos are often nightmare fuel, seriously just watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=302&v=uXjJdv5fj5k

there are loving THOUSANDS of these kinds of videos with and some with literally half a billion views. it's absolutely insane and they are all targeted to kids, who will have a tablet in front of them and just let autoplay curate for them. these hosed up videos then start playing.

some channels even copy the same scenarios with difference characters. for example, there's a motif of kids drinking beer, getting intoxicated, and then injuring themselves. this same scenario is played with mickey mouse, minions, paw patrol, etc. this video goes in more detail: https://youtu.be/qlNKi5etxhk

the mainstream is starting to pick up on this because kids are getting exposed to these videos. there are a lot of theories and speculation on what is going on.

1) these videos are grooming children to normalize abusive and strange situations. some videos also have gibberish in the comments, theory is that these is some kind of code
2) this is a form of bot cancer - people have found a way to game youtube's algorithm using key words strings and let AI randomize stock videos to create these. this explains the animated ones but doesn't explain the live action ones, which have to have a director and actors.
3) it's some sort of psyop campaign intended to traumatize young children by introducing weird concepts at a very young age. most of the videos seemed to be created in russia or vietnam.
4) kids are just hosed up and respond well to gross videos. probably likely, and could be combined with #2 to exploit that.

anyway, whatever happened, the youtube algorithm and the way our system is designed to create profit from views has created something incredibly hosed up and bizarre.

some additional reading as well: https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-internet-c39c471271d2

i went down a rabbit hole with this poo poo, and it's equal parts fascinating and horrifying. the kids section on youtube is far more insidious than anything i've seen on the main site

I sort of kind of knew about this, then I happened upon that same Medium article and I was pretty surprised at how hosed up it all is.

Pretty sure the reason is a combination of #2 and #4.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Kids young enough to click on this poo poo and and actually watch more than 5 seconds of it shouldn't be browsing Youtube and shouldn't have the means to do so. There, I solved the problem.

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf
letting your kids watch youtube unsupervised is like giving them brain AIDS at an early age :(

Proposition Castle
Aug 9, 2004
Witty message goes here.
Skynet.

Monos Bullet
Dec 6, 2016

Yea, and I say unto you, bringeth me a machiatto of caramel, with crickets on top.
watching H3H3 will also gently caress up your kid

putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION

Monos Bullet posted:

watching H3H3 will also gently caress up your kid

no one suggested letting kids watch h3h3 wtf are you even talking about

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
There are like 1 million elsa flash game varients, such as pregnant elsa domestic abuse survivor?!, fix elsas teeth, and fix elsa brain with happy though!, feed elsa through broke jaw and fight spider!They are usually misspelled and such. Some of them are gone now though, and it's a sad day for artists or something like that.

Humanity was a mistake.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Retsuprae (I believe that’s Diabeetus and SlowBeef) covered some of the knockoff Mickey Mouse ones.

https://youtu.be/rq1uiYXWIGY

I like their comment about how you can have hundreds of videos that completely rip off a major company’s IP but if you have four notes of Pachabell’s Cannon in your video you get an instant copyright strike.

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf
kinda related, there are tons of softcore pedo vids of young girls bathing in swimsuits or doing gymnastics (basically anything with revealing skin tight clothes). there are entire channels dedicated to it and the comments are so creepy

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


Didn't Retsuprae find these a few months back and do a video with one where Gorfy knocked up Mooney Moose so Mickicky Rat hung himself in the shower but it was all a dream? That ruled.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

This is how the machines are making their first move against humanity.

Kak
Sep 27, 2002
I guess parents shouldn't let ipads raise their kids.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Gravy Boat 2k
YouTube is mutating



See y'all in the hellscape

Monos Bullet
Dec 6, 2016

Yea, and I say unto you, bringeth me a machiatto of caramel, with crickets on top.

a hot gujju bhabhi posted:

no one suggested letting kids watch h3h3 wtf are you even talking about

I should restate. H3H3 will gently caress anyone up. youtube rots the brain regardless of age or channel :shrug:

facebook jihad
Dec 18, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Saw this in an H3H3 video like over a year ago. It’s hosed up but pretty old news at this point

facebook jihad
Dec 18, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Monos Bullet posted:

I should restate. H3H3 will gently caress anyone up. youtube rots the brain regardless of age or channel :shrug:

Vsauce and some more educational channels are pretty good!!!

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

Three-Phase posted:

I like their comment about how you can have hundreds of videos that completely rip off a major company’s IP but if you have four notes of Pachabell’s Cannon in your video you get an instant copyright strike.

Yeah it just seems like Viacom, Disney, Sony, and Fox would have firebombed all these bootleg youtube videos into oblivion by now.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Really good explanation. And a bit frightening.

Algorithmic “grey goo”?

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElsaGate/comments/7bmq40/codedgibberish_comments/

this is where it started spooking me out. thai messages about parking lots? What the fucks?

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
I am about to go to sleep so that I can get up at 3am and ski all day tomorrow, but I can explain a good chunk of what this bullshit really is later on. I spent six years of my life manipulating YouTube for profit and contributed heavily to this wierdness cropping up.

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





There are entire businesses dedicated to creating really hosed up and bizarre kids videos and posting them on youtube. They are posted under thousands of accounts and once a kid clicks one they get caught in web of clicking through for hours.

There are also a separate group of people who have built ARGs on top of the video webs in the comments sections or with their own tie in videos.

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf

Rime posted:

I am about to go to sleep so that I can get up at 3am and ski all day tomorrow, but I can explain a good chunk of what this bullshit really is later on. I spent six years of my life manipulating YouTube for profit and contributed heavily to this wierdness cropping up.

oh nice, looking forward to it

facebook jihad
Dec 18, 2007

by R. Guyovich
IIRC the people who do those videos are well known YT pranksters when that was popular like two years ago

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

facebook jihad posted:

IIRC the people who do those videos are well known YT pranksters when that was popular like two years ago

That's just one variant, there are millions of these things

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Rime posted:

I am about to go to sleep so that I can get up at 3am and ski all day tomorrow, but I can explain a good chunk of what this bullshit really is later on. I spent six years of my life manipulating YouTube for profit and contributed heavily to this wierdness cropping up.

Frozen Elsa SNORTS COCAINE w/Spiderman Science Challenge Funny For Kids

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

facebook jihad posted:

IIRC the people who do those videos are well known YT pranksters when that was popular like two years ago

I'M ETHAN BRADBERRY

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
The main thing is the content of the videos is so hosed up and needs to be removed because of how problematic it is- I'll explain...

In the cartoons, one of the characters is burned with a hot knife, another has their ear cut off, and still more get injured in other ways. The key thing here is the situation is always remedied by simply wrapping a bandage on the severed ear, or putting cream on a burn. If a young child took this to heart and figured the solution is simple and trouble free to such a "prank" (and these acts of violence are always framed as harmless mischief), that is a problem. The actual aftermath of such a monkey-see monkey-do injury from these videos would be difficult and costly.

I haven't forgotten about the Road Runner, the difference between cartoon violence and cartoon violence is that these Youtubes are almost instructional in how to inflict these very real injuries with implements that are within their grasp as opposed to sending in a mail order to ACME for an anvil.

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice

Caesar Saladin posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElsaGate/comments/7bmq40/codedgibberish_comments/

this is where it started spooking me out. thai messages about parking lots? What the fucks?

Hmmm

cool new Polack jokes posted:

The main thing is the content of the videos is so hosed up and needs to be removed because of how problematic it is- I'll explain...

In the cartoons, one of the characters is burned with a hot knife, another has their ear cut off, and still more get injured in other ways. The key thing here is the situation is always remedied by simply wrapping a bandage on the severed ear, or putting cream on a burn. If a young child took this to heart and figured the solution is simple and trouble free to such a "prank" (and these acts of violence are always framed as harmless mischief), that is a problem. The actual aftermath of such a monkey-see monkey-do injury from these videos would be difficult and costly.

I haven't forgotten about the Road Runner, the difference between cartoon violence and cartoon violence is that these Youtubes are almost instructional in how to inflict these very real injuries with implements that are within their grasp as opposed to sending in a mail order to ACME for an anvil.

There might be more going on than just the content. There are encoded comments alluding to human tracking on the videos as well.

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

I just read some weird Kinder Egg Surprise! video article. Children are transfixed by these things which is disturbing and interesting at the same time.

a few DRUNK BONERS
Mar 25, 2016

Extra Large Marge posted:

Yeah it just seems like Viacom, Disney, Sony, and Fox would have firebombed all these bootleg youtube videos into oblivion by now.

they're the ones producing the videos, they own all the most popular bizarre kids channels

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

cool new Polack jokes posted:

The main thing is the content of the videos is so hosed up and needs to be removed because of how problematic it is- I'll explain...

In the cartoons, one of the characters is burned with a hot knife, another has their ear cut off, and still more get injured in other ways. The key thing here is the situation is always remedied by simply wrapping a bandage on the severed ear, or putting cream on a burn. If a young child took this to heart and figured the solution is simple and trouble free to such a "prank" (and these acts of violence are always framed as harmless mischief), that is a problem. The actual aftermath of such a monkey-see monkey-do injury from these videos would be difficult and costly.

I haven't forgotten about the Road Runner, the difference between cartoon violence and cartoon violence is that these Youtubes are almost instructional in how to inflict these very real injuries with implements that are within their grasp as opposed to sending in a mail order to ACME for an anvil.

Okay Grandma, I'll change the channel

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

This new version of the Wyoming Incident is much better.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.
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These give me the same creepy vibe as numbers stations, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're coded communication for [choose one or more: human traffickers, child porn rings, drug traffickers, ISIS cells, spies, etc.]

Black August
Sep 28, 2003

The internet is achieving blackest apotheosis

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
suspicious of the human traffic thing as a possible fake thing... why wouldn't trafficers just use email.

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf
the elsagate subreddit seems to be full of the kind of people who think pizzagate is real, but there is deffo. something odd going on - maybe not pedo rings but easily view manipulation

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

i like the idea that its a russian psyops campaign to corrupt western children, that'd be pretty hilarious

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insulated staircase
Aug 21, 2014

I'd totally eat a burger to change colors

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