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Turn 29 Resolve Dividend That strengthens the CAD, right?
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Nov 28, 2017 13:58
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Strengthens the Currency with the most player-held Bonds, which is CAD by 2. Since it's not my turn, just putting this out there: Jordan, trade you 1 EUR for 2 CHF? e2: I would also be interested in trading 1 EUR for 2 USD, more people can make that. Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 14:04
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Mr. Squishy posted:Strengthens the Currency with the most player-held Bonds, which is CAD by 2. You want the EUR? I’d do that.
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Nov 28, 2017 14:36
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Nah, vice versa, I want to give it away.
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Nov 28, 2017 14:39
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Ah. In that case, pass.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:48
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pass
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Nov 28, 2017 17:09
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Some Numbers posted:pass It's your turn btw
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Nov 28, 2017 17:32
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We were just talking, it's your turn. E; Surely I can convince someone to get in on EUR at close to the groundfloor?
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Nov 28, 2017 17:32
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Invest JPY and USD
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Nov 28, 2017 18:00
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OK, so Lecher, I'll give you 1 EUR for 1.5 CHF. It's going to go up up up! e: the terms have changed since I had been forgetting to adjust the board-state mentally. e2: or for 1.5 USD, i'm not fussy. Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 18:16
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I thought about doing EUR-CHF, but....pass.
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Nov 29, 2017 03:00
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Fine! Turn 31 Invest EUR.
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Nov 29, 2017 09:56
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Spot trade offer: My GBP/JPY for CNY
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Nov 29, 2017 14:49
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Known Lecher posted:Spot trade offer: Would do for JPY.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:11
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Id go for either. E2: i changed my mind, no i won't. Pass. Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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Nov 29, 2017 15:16
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Mr. Squishy posted:Id go for either. Well then.  Turn 32 Spot trade with Jordan: 1 JPY for 2 CNY Invest in EUR, USD
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Nov 29, 2017 15:30
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Hey you know what? People are right, resolving when the queue is full feels real bad. It feels like a waste of an action, and handing initiative over to somebody else. Regardless: Turn 33 Resolve Contract A All my beautiful GBP, gone.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:34
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Resolving in general unless it somehow directly benefits you (or screws someone else) feels like a wasted action regardless of whether the queue is full. But when the queue is full it feels extra wasted. I think I saw on BGG someone house-ruled that a player who resolves when the queue is full can immediately submit a new contract, but that feels just really powerful...you're basically getting two whole actions on your turn. I'm not sure what else you can do though.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:48
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Known Lecher posted:Resolving in general unless it somehow directly benefits you (or screws someone else) feels like a wasted action regardless of whether the queue is full. But when the queue is full it feels extra wasted. Resolving the dividend was ok even if it didn't benefit me directly. Mostly because it didn't create a new contract space. The variant isn't too powerful, because everyone can do it, but I wonder why you would ever resolve without also submitting a new contract. I wouldn't mind giving Tom's variant a shot. Basically a button that moves around and allows 2 actions on that turn. So it speeds it up a bit, but not completely.
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Nov 29, 2017 16:00
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Jordan7hm posted:Resolving the dividend was ok even if it didn't benefit me directly. Mostly because it didn't create a new contract space. Yeah, with the variant I mentioned, it seems like there would be virtually no reason to resolve until the queue fills up. The button sounds like a better idea, because then you can get into additional strategy of trying to time things to happen when you've got the button, etc.
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Nov 29, 2017 16:16
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Just do what I do, drag your feet so you've got an action to do instead of resolve.
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Nov 29, 2017 16:27
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Known Lecher posted:Yeah, with the variant I mentioned, it seems like there would be virtually no reason to resolve until the queue fills up. The button sounds like a better idea, because then you can get into additional strategy of trying to time things to happen when you've got the button, etc. I’m trying to think of a scenario where resolving is the right choice when there’s a free contract, and the only one I can think of is to force a bankruptcy. It seems like the contract action is by far the most valuable action in the game and it’s never worth giving that up.
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Nov 29, 2017 18:13
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One good thing is this game offers much more house-ruling "freedom" than others. If you come up with a fix, you're not very likely to break the game in some other ways.
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Nov 29, 2017 18:18
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Dancer posted:One good thing is this game offers much more house-ruling "freedom" than others. If you come up with a fix, you're not very likely to break the game in some other ways. ...how so? Like, can you explain that a bit further?
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Nov 29, 2017 18:20
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Mr. Squishy posted:Just do what I do, drag your feet so you've got an action to do instead of resolve. I was thinking of doing this, but Tom seems to think that investing just for the sake of investing is a bad move. I'm testing out whether or not I agree with him. It seems like if you can't get a contract, locking your cash in for future returns is always a good move. With no ability to create a contract, there's no chance that you'll get less money than you spend, so your only alternative is to do spot trades for marginal gains. I probably should have tried to do that, but there's a balance here with pace of play too, which I think an in-person game would alleviate. I mentioned this in the board games thread but this game goes on sale on Friday, and I want to figure out if I'm buying it or not.
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Nov 29, 2017 18:25
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silvergoose posted:...how so? Like, can you explain that a bit further? I was being brief because phoneposting, so it came across wrong, but it seems to me that there are so many knobs and dials you can tweak without fundamentally altering the game. If you think contracts are by far the strongest action, maybe allow investing in 3 currencies/one currency twice, to buff that action, then do the rotating "button" for resolving that was just discussed. With this game I'm less scared than I'd be with many other games that I will break its balance if I started tweaking.
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Nov 29, 2017 20:08
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Dancer posted:I was being brief because phoneposting, so it came across wrong, but it seems to me that there are so many knobs and dials you can tweak without fundamentally altering the game. If you think contracts are by far the strongest action, maybe allow investing in 3 currencies/one currency twice, to buff that action, then do the rotating "button" for resolving that was just discussed. With this game I'm less scared than I'd be with many other games that I will break its balance if I started tweaking. Oh sorry, I wasn't being disbelieving, I was asking for more info because game design theory is super interesting. Cool cool.
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Nov 29, 2017 20:10
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Sorry guys, I slept in a fair bit. Turn 34 Contract Give 10 CAD for 30 JPY Some Numbers fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Nov 29, 2017 20:40
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A chance to make a contract snatched away unfairly! Ah... Turn 35 Invest GBP
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Nov 29, 2017 23:39
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Mr. Squishy posted:A chance to make a contract snatched away unfairly! 
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Nov 30, 2017 00:13
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Dancer posted:I was being brief because phoneposting, so it came across wrong, but it seems to me that there are so many knobs and dials you can tweak without fundamentally altering the game. If you think contracts are by far the strongest action, maybe allow investing in 3 currencies/one currency twice, to buff that action, then do the rotating "button" for resolving that was just discussed. With this game I'm less scared than I'd be with many other games that I will break its balance if I started tweaking. I think when you're tweaking a fully open luckless game, it's easier to see if your tweaks break the game in a relevant fashion as well. If the original game is a draw when played perfectly, and yours is now a win for player 3 with optimal play but whoever plays better that day in practice, that's still OK; if now nobody does anything but invest that's not.
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Nov 30, 2017 07:34
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I don't think anyone can do any spot trades I'd be interested in, so Turn 36 Divest CAD Yeah, that's right, I'm divesting, you loonie hoarders.
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Nov 30, 2017 12:54
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So now we all have a chance to divest CAD in turn order.
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Nov 30, 2017 13:01
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I’m keeping mine.
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Nov 30, 2017 14:01
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Keep
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Dec 1, 2017 00:10
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I'm actually totally okay with this, based on my new contract.
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Dec 1, 2017 00:11
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Actually, I just checked the rulebook and I'm changing my mind!~ Officially choosing to also divest
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Dec 1, 2017 00:13
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I'll divest 1.
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Dec 1, 2017 00:58
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Before I make that final, can I suggest you reconsider  ? It seems to me that, in the case where you do ever divest CAD again, and also the case where you don't, divesting zero is strictly better than divesting one. Of course I might be missing stuff, but if you're going to be saving certs to collect CAD, you should probably save all of them.
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Dec 1, 2017 01:09
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Divest 1
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Dec 1, 2017 01:20
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