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"Humans have made some good things. Like beer. And dark beer." "All things are better molten. Stone. Iron. Chocolate cake." Ornn appreciates the finer things in life.
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Do I just go full tank ornn or can I build damage items as well? I'm fairly new to the game and extremely bad.
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Feb 13, 2021 15:09
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threelemmings posted:Yes, his name is rammus and he's already perfect The moveset is more along the lines of Braum where it's less about protecting others and more about taking burst damage and sending it back with an unstoppable auto. gyrobot fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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Feb 13, 2021 15:10
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Biplane posted:Do I just go full tank ornn or can I build damage items as well? I'm fairly new to the game and extremely bad. Full tank, almost always Sunfire and Abyssal because he'll then upgrade those with his passive when he hits level 13+14. Also don't worry about his damage, Ornn is hella fun because he's incredible at punishing greedy bruisers with a level of burst damage in lane that almost no-one is prepared for. Land the pillar, charge knockup, then use his flame breath to apply brittle and then auto attack and it can take 1/3rd to 1/2 most early lane health bars. It's a really easy combo to pull off and if some greedy Renekton is trying to dive you it's a guaranteed ticket to an open top because they'll almost certainly rage about getting solo killed by a tank.
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Feb 13, 2021 16:30
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Biplane posted:Do I just go full tank ornn or can I build damage items as well? I'm fairly new to the game and extremely bad. ornn has really high base damage so you usually end up accomplishing more just buying tank and being immovable
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Feb 13, 2021 16:33
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njsykora posted:Full tank, almost always Sunfire and Abyssal because he'll then upgrade those with his passive when he hits level 13+14. This changed with the item rework. He now just upgrades his Mythic at 13, so you go whichever one fits the game best. Always gonna be something that builds from Bami's, unless you really want a locket for some reason. Then you get upgrades for your teammates' mythics, one per level, at 14+. This also gives you 4% armor/mr/hp. Mostly just go full tank, though hp stacking steraks/titanic/gargoyle's is fun.
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Feb 13, 2021 16:46
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Fun fact about Ornn. Ornns W makes him unstoppable. So time it well to just ignore whatever the other top laner is throwing at you, ie Urgots flip, Cho's knock up. Sad fact about Ornn. His ult counts as a projectile, so champs that can block projectiles like Yas just neuter him in team fights if you don't time it right.
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Feb 13, 2021 16:53
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Ornn also counters bruisers nicely cos you can soak up the trades early by taking biscuits plus every time you earn 300g you can just go plonk, plonk, cloth armour. Plonk, plonk, now I have a bramble vest and I havent even gone back. Plonk, plonk, stoneplate greaves lol you cant hurt me Even if you lose lane it doesnt matter cos you have such a huge impact on team fights, just push R in their general direction then mash keys at the carry and you win
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Feb 13, 2021 17:03
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Support talk: top picks personally have been nami, morg, alistar, leo, Sona twins, thresh Usually just spam pick sona though since it seems low gold high silver don't really mesh sometimes with teamplay. Better to have moonstone and just let them heal up to whack each other while running down mid Just be careful early, positioning is crucial.
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Feb 13, 2021 19:51
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Thank you all for the Ornn tips I will try to make you all proud
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Feb 14, 2021 17:18
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Mega Comrade posted:Sad fact about Ornn. His ult counts as a projectile, so champs that can block projectiles like Yas just neuter him in team fights if you don't time it right. let me tell you about playing ornn into release samira that wasn't the only reason i stopped playing league, but it was up there
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Feb 15, 2021 04:06
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cooldowns are hard i guess
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Feb 15, 2021 05:58
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https://i.imgur.com/Y8gi0aZ.mp4
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Feb 15, 2021 09:27
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I've done two ornn games now where I was owned pretty bad early on by a darius and a malphite but won both games because he turned into a very strong mountain man as long as I got my farm in. E: and a third one now laning against an ad shaco? I brutally owned him and we easily won the game. Ornn is cool and good and my friend. Biplane fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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Feb 15, 2021 22:07
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you definitely should not struggle against malphite as ornn thats by far and away his strongest lane
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Feb 16, 2021 00:05
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If someone's playing their second game on the champ and the person they're meant to counter is on their 50th I can excuse getting owned by a Malphite in lane.
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Feb 16, 2021 00:09
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And again, I am bad at the game. But I'm getting better!
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Feb 16, 2021 00:15
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if you ever lose a lane for any reason i dont understand your lifestyle
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Feb 16, 2021 00:16
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njsykora posted:If someone's playing their second game on the champ and the person they're meant to counter is on their 50th I can excuse getting owned by a Malphite in lane. i cannot
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Feb 16, 2021 01:07
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The average LOL player has a 65% win rate.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:22
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Verviticus posted:i cannot You are a person of principle and I have no choice but to respect that. Also, I spent 2.5€ on a white elderwood chroma for ornn so now he's a winter wonderwood ornn
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Feb 16, 2021 01:49
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Verviticus posted:i cannot dont be so ornnery
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Feb 16, 2021 05:10
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rabidsquid posted:if you ever lose a lane for any reason i dont understand your lifestyle
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Feb 16, 2021 18:59
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Having a lot of fun playing ornn, especially when I'm against other bads. Any of you losers playing on eu west like me (a winner)?
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Feb 16, 2021 22:09
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Biplane posted:Having a lot of fun playing ornn, especially when I'm against other bads. Any of you losers playing on eu west like me (a winner)? Theres a few of us but most dont play all that often these days. Feel free to add me (ign: dingus khan), I might be around on weekends for a few Otherwise find the discord info in the op and ask around there. Everyone is supremely chill and there are sometimes funny gifs of dogs in the appropriate channels
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Feb 16, 2021 22:25
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el dingo posted:Theres a few of us but most dont play all that often these days. Feel free to add me (ign: dingus khan), I might be around on weekends for a few Cool, I will. Big fan of dogs.
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Feb 16, 2021 22:51
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4TUY1Vv6eg
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Feb 17, 2021 02:47
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That's genuinely adorable, I've never felt bad for a Sett before.
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Feb 17, 2021 14:59
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There's a bunch of them and they're all adorable.
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Feb 17, 2021 15:05
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That video has extremely high goon stack energy and I absolutely love that series of videos
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Feb 17, 2021 17:35
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I just started playing the game last week, after trying to make a go at playing DOTA2 with my buddies. I have to say that the algorithm seems to be doing an excellent job of matching me against other beginning players, all may games seem very competitive and I've actually carried a couple of them, while being on the clear losing side in others. This is in clear contrast to DOTA2, which doesn't seem to have any sort of system for acclimatizing new players to the game and just throws you in with people who obviously have much more experience than you, and then you die 20+ times a game every game. I know this is supposed to be a famously toxic game, but the ratio of cool team mates to toxic people is better than 10 to 1 so far. I guess maybe the toxic people are all better than me. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to approach the game from a philosophical perspective? I can find a lot of tutorial videos where they explain individual champions and how the basic game mechanics work, but should i be looking at playing ranked as early as possible or is it ok to chill in Normal. I find that quite often nobody on my team even attempts to play a jungle champion, i find stuff online that says that you shouldn't even think about playing jungle for months. It seems like the quickest way to lose at my level is when the other team has a somewhat competent player in that position so is it possible to fill there or do you need specific runes and spells?
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Feb 17, 2021 17:58
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Ranked and normal (draft pick) games are the exact same thing, it doesn't matter which you play despite what others say. Normal uses the same ranking system as ranked under the hood, it just doesn't show you the number so fewer brainworms gamers get mad about it going down. (This is the same way it works in dota2). IMO you should immediately barge into ranked when you unlock it and lose your first 5 games ASAP to cure yourself of the disease known as "ranked anxiety". As soon as you get high enough level to unlock the Smite summoner spell you can try out jungling. Warwick and Nunu are both cheap 450BE characters who are mechanically straightforward to play so you can spend the other 90% of your brainpower on the part of jungling that really matters: looking at your minimap every 2 seconds so you know what's going on in every lane. You might want to look up some "[character name here] jungle clear" videos on youtube or whatever because different champs can do different things at level 1 and if you try to fight a camp that your champ can''t handle (due to having no AOE at level 2 or something) you're gonna lose out on a lot of time and end up underleveled. But basically after your first jungle clear once you're level 5-ish and bought a random suggested item you should be strong enough to just freestyle it and hit whatever camp is closest with no worries.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:15
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Starsfan posted:Does anyone have any suggestions on how to approach the game from a philosophical perspective? That's awesome that you're having such a good experience. I'm poo poo at this game, so maybe I shouldn't be giving advice, but my lessons learned are these (better players tell me where I'm wrong): Dying is bad. You build the other team's snowball and weaken you're own. Just like cave spelunking, have a plan to get out you can be more bold if your enemy doesn't have a flash. You can be especially bold if you have a flash and they don't. That said dying can be overcome, so don't give into despair. Understand that dying in the laning phase is giving the other team the initiative, and while it's bad, the game isn't over. You're on the defensive now. Sometimes people give up, or desperately try to match kills and widen the gal. Pay attention about when to expand and contract. You want the team together for team fights, but a team that stays balled up probably isn't farming well and will wonder why they start losing fights. Use wards and map awareness to predict where the enemy is aggregating. The ideal solutions are usually either a decisive action as a group against them, or the bare minimum amount of players to mitigate their damage without giving up space; if four enemies ball up in bottom and bot/sup/jungle keep them from the turret and take no losses, top and mid can gain some space, maybe take an undefeated tower. But if they get three kills and two turrets and mid and top lose their gains by having to teleport back to defend the inhibitor, enemy probably got the most value out of that exchange. Recently, LOL has been the jungle show with special guests top, mid, bottom, and support. But it's a specialized role, with specific items and specific champions and specific routes that you'll need to know. Because it's so hard though, you can probably learn to be better than other new players fairly quickly with some videos. I never have to fill because I
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Feb 17, 2021 18:21
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It is hard to give holistic advice for the game but I reckon the most important is: ward ward ward ward ward ward ward WARD. Dont forget control wards Vision wins games. You might not end up with a sick KDA and no one honours you for your excellent vision control but it wins games
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Feb 17, 2021 18:38
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el dingo posted:It is hard to give holistic advice for the game but I reckon the most important is: ward ward ward ward ward ward ward WARD. Dont forget control wards Yeah i've noticed that this is low-key the part of the game that might be the most difficult to pick up and take the most experience / knowledge to do properly. Like i have been using the wards that I buy and plopping them down in the bushes around my lane and the river (i also have been playing alot of support so I've been told this is my job lol) but I don't really think too much about it or have a good idea of when it's critical to get wards in certain locations. I will read up on this more.  Thank you for your feedback and advice guys, I do appreciate the feedback ^^ I hope that I can elevate my game to the point where I can play with some goons in a group
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Feb 17, 2021 18:46
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Philosophically there’s only one guide you ever need for support https://youtu.be/aSHvzZy1YZA During laning phase you’re about 80% of the power in the lane, and 15% is the jungler when they show up. Your job is to shove gold and kills down your ADC’s throat whether they want them or not, while making the opposing ADC miss as many minions as possible As a ranged support, you do this by finding the exact right distance where you can hit the enemies with spells and autoattacks without dying yourself. Autos matter a LOT, if the enemy ADC takes one of your autos for every minion they hit, they’ll get scared off the wave and you win the lane easy As a melee support your job is to Kill Them. I recommend Leona. There’s only four hits: you hitting level two, you hitting E, and something something they die
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Feb 17, 2021 18:53
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That’s mostly dependent on how timid your ADC is.
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Feb 17, 2021 19:08
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leona can easily solo a level 1 adc when she is level 2, so no, it absolutely does not depend on that even a little. the level 2 leona all in does 280 damage with just the abilities basically. i mean it would be nice if the adc helped but that will half health most full health bot laners by itself.
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Feb 17, 2021 19:49
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I mean, there's an enemy support usually,
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You have to inspire the bloodlust in your bot laner if you're solo queueing support. Ping your engages, tell them to push for lvl 2 advantage, call the jungler to come gank, setup vision around objectives. At the end of the day you can't pull out every game but as support you have the most opportunity to call shots and make plays, especially in the early and mid game.
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