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I have been playing chronicles 1 recently as I never finished it and for all the flack 2 gets for insane titties the first one is just as bad about that. Especially late game armor.
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people give chronicles 1 a pass for it because they think it's Not Anime
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Jul 19, 2018 03:11
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Some of the optional cosmetic stuff being raunchy is a different level than the base, unchangeable models being smut. Plus, when XBC came out there was a bit of backlash for Fiora's costumes as well. And presumably Sharla's.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:16
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its curtains for Kevin posted:Some of the optional cosmetic stuff being raunchy is a different level than the base, unchangeable models being smut. Its not cosmetic nor optional it’s the better armor in the game. I was just equipping whatever armor had the best stats. I don’t even think Xenoblade has cosmetic stuff. I had to run titty hanging out Sharla or she would get wrecked. There is literal no difference between the two. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jul 19, 2018 |
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Jul 19, 2018 03:18
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if you're running sharla at all you're doing it wrong
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Jul 19, 2018 03:20
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U-DO Burger posted:if you're running sharla at all you're doing it wrong I ran everyone at some point. Either way it wasn’t cosmetic or optional. I don’t even think Xenoblade 1 has cosmetic stuff.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:21
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CharlestheHammer posted:Its not cosmetic nor optional it’s the better armor in the game. I was just equipping whatever armor had the best stats. I don’t even think Xenoblade has cosmetic stuff. Speed V and Speed IV both require gems to max out Agility, and the same Agility gem works for both. I also think that endgame neckbeard content is less worrisome than the core design implementing it. I am not unopposed to fan service in the right context, and late game or optional content is the better way to go about it than the same outfit you see them in for 200 hours.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:24
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That seems really arbitrar, more of a rationalization really. I also wouldn’t call the final boss optional but not everyone finishes games I guess.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:25
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CharlestheHammer posted:I ran everyone at some point. the game becomes a million times more enjoyable when you bench Sharla and stack all the "heal party after chain attack" skills you can manage
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Jul 19, 2018 03:27
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I suppose. XBC is definitely anime as hell, but some of the more pervy stuff is gated behind content so I think it surprises people when they find it, whereas XB2 wastes no time in making you feel uncomfortable about the way people are dressed and act so you're more desensitized to it by the time Dahlia comes up and waggles her 10 pound melons in your face.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:28
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U-DO Burger posted:the game becomes a million times more enjoyable when you bench Sharla and stack all the "heal party after chain attack" skills you can manage I also wanted to get their affinities up and changing up the party made it easier. its curtains for Kevin posted:I suppose. XBC is definitely anime as hell, but some of the more pervy stuff is gated behind content so I think it surprises people when they find it, whereas XB2 wastes no time in making you feel uncomfortable about the way people are dressed and act so you're more desensitized to it by the time Dahlia comes up and waggles her 10 pound melons in your face. I think it’s better when a game doesnt pretend its something it’s not. Better to know what you are getting into rather than feeling tricked.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:34
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CharlestheHammer posted:I also wanted to get their affinities up and changing up the party made it easier. what, you didn't want to navigate menus to have your team gift each other random crap for hours?
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Jul 19, 2018 03:37
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U-DO Burger posted:what, you didn't want to navigate menus to have your team gift each other random crap for hours? Don’t forget that you can only collect or trade random crap and you have to trade one at a time. People complain about XC2 system but it a 1000 times better than the original.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:39
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CharlestheHammer posted:I have been playing chronicles 1 recently as I never finished it and for all the flack 2 gets for insane titties the first one is just as bad about that. "bad"
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Jul 19, 2018 04:50
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Sa-weet, thanks for the tips y'all! Learned a few things in there and I deffo hit the point where digging in the mechanics is part of the fun. My contribution to anime tiddy chat is I haven't played 1 but I'm like 40 hours into 2 and I still double take at some angles surprised that yes they really did not just give Pyra a ridiculous outfit but also attached giant weird shaped blobs on. More crazy to me how I'm continually impressed with how sprawling and built out the game itself is for a single player release with a million systems, sprawling maps and a world that feels huge, just an impressive amount of stuff built out and integrated, then one of the main characters with a lot of screentime looks like a deviantart import. Speaking of anime tiddies is Nia a guy? I don't always pay 100% attention to cutscenes in the game but something happened in a hot tub I missed.
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teh_Broseph posted:Speaking of anime tiddies is Nia a guy? I don't always pay 100% attention to cutscenes in the game but something happened in a hot tub I missed. Nooooooo. That's something else altogether, and you really should start paying attention to the story cutscenes to figure out what's going on.
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Jul 19, 2018 15:31
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That cutscene is intentionally vague and I've seen it interpreted at least 4 different ways. So no, you didn't actually miss anything.
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Jul 19, 2018 17:00
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I didn’t get the scene either on my first play through, i know what they were going for in terms of pacing plot beats, but there was nothing to really connect that scene to previous related scenes
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Jul 19, 2018 17:09
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So just started playing this game and it's fantastic so far. Really hope reviewers were wrong about this being worse than Xenoblade Chronicles 1.
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Jul 20, 2018 06:19
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punk rebel ecks posted:So just started playing this game and it's fantastic so far. I enjoyed 2 more than 1.
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Jul 20, 2018 06:34
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Xenoblade 2 suffers from a lot more money being put into the project, but also a really ambitious attempt to get local artists to contribute directly to the game. The gacha system itself is polarizing, and the artist designs range from cool to deviantart to straight up patreon fetish material. Also, a big part of the strategic layer, the merc missions, just have everyone show up as a sprite, Shin Megami Tensei style, which could be offputting since they have full 3D models and voicing for all of them. Also, generic blades are dull.
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Jul 20, 2018 07:22
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its curtains for Kevin posted:Xenoblade 2 suffers from a lot more money being put into the project, but also a really ambitious attempt to get local artists to contribute directly to the game. The gacha system itself is polarizing, and the artist designs range from cool to deviantart to straight up patreon fetish material. Also, a big part of the strategic layer, the merc missions, just have everyone show up as a sprite, Shin Megami Tensei style, which could be offputting since they have full 3D models and voicing for all of them. Also, generic blades are dull. Actually the reason Xenoblade 2 lacks polish is Breath of the Wild rather than mismanagement. Monolith Soft had to divert most of their programmers to help get BoTW finished, and XC2 couldn't get the refining it would've gotten in that time otherwise.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Actually the reason Xenoblade 2 lacks polish is Breath of the Wild rather than mismanagement. Monolith Soft had to divert most of their programmers to help get BoTW finished, and XC2 couldn't get the refining it would've gotten in that time otherwise. This would be more plausible if every other one of Monolith Soft's game didn't share the exact same problem
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Jul 20, 2018 08:42
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Xenoblade 2 is a much better game than 1. Having just played 1 I can say that easily
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Jul 20, 2018 08:46
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multijoe posted:This would be more plausible if every other one of Monolith Soft's game didn't share the exact same problem I wouldn't say it's Xenosaga bad. XC2 is at least a full and complete game (there's no real noticeable "THIS WAS CUT FOR TIME" gaps or anything like that), it's just lacking polish. XC1 IS a full and mostly-polished game, it's just very grindy for getting to the actual good side-content and extra talent trees. XCX, well... now that one is a total trainwreck. You honestly couldn't even port it to the Switch in the state it's in as-is, it needs that much work to un-gently caress it.
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Jul 20, 2018 08:48
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I hope thy un-gently caress XCX and release it for the Switch, I loved the world of that game. Edit: one of the things they did really well in XCX that I missed in XC2 was the different ways that enemies could detect you. They fleshed that mechanic out really well with the color coding of enemy names but then in XC2 they were like “gently caress it, every enemy engages based on sight” Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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Jul 20, 2018 14:26
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I wouldn't say it's Xenosaga bad. XC2 is at least a full and complete game (there's no real noticeable "THIS WAS CUT FOR TIME" gaps or anything like that), it's just lacking polish. XC1 IS a full and mostly-polished game, it's just very grindy for getting to the actual good side-content and extra talent trees. XB1 was definitely the slickest of the Xenoblade games but the series' inclination towards needlessly tedious RNG grinding was already there. Most of XB2's problems aren't a lack of 'polish' but straightforwardly bad design decisions, they've made them slightly more tolerable in post-release patches but the gacha system and mercenary missions are still horrible wastes of time BIG BUFF MAN posted:I hope thy un-gently caress XCX and release it for the Switch, I loved the world of that game. Same. XBX has one of my all-time favourite open world environments and the on-foot combat system was a ton of fun, getting to the midgame and slowly realising that everything to do with Skells was insanely terrible was incredibly disappointing
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Jul 20, 2018 14:45
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Hey now skell combat may have been poo poo but piloting one was still freaking rad
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Jul 20, 2018 16:48
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U-DO Burger posted:Hey now skell combat may have been poo poo but piloting one was still freaking rad The flight music setting every time you stepped out of the cockpit was downright twisted
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Jul 20, 2018 16:53
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So is the upcoming prequel for XB2 just DLC, or is it an entire new game? Also, XBX was terrible and I hope Monolith never revisits it.
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Jul 20, 2018 16:58
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punk rebel ecks posted:So is the upcoming prequel for XB2 just DLC, or is it an entire new game? Yes (it's standalone DLC that will have a physical release but if you bought the pass for the game you get it with that) http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/06/xenoblade_chronicles_2_torna_-_the_golden_country_expansion_coming_this_september
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multijoe posted:XB1 was definitely the slickest of the Xenoblade games but the series' inclination towards needlessly tedious RNG grinding was already there. Most of XB2's problems aren't a lack of 'polish' but straightforwardly bad design decisions, they've made them slightly more tolerable in post-release patches but the gacha system and mercenary missions are still horrible wastes of time When I say it lacks polish, I don't just mean "tweak the values until they're dialed in". I mean more "this idea seemed good on paper, let's try it out. Okay, that's not as fun as we thought, let's try changing/ditching it". Getting stuck in crunch time means they don't have time for the latter parts, so all you get is "well, it's functional  ".BIG BUFF MAN posted:I hope thy un-gently caress XCX and release it for the Switch, I loved the world of that game. XCX was very ambitious, and it has the seeds of a great game. The problem is it's blatantly unfinished in a lot of places and there's simply no salvaging it without some serious rebuilding from scratch. Especially when the story's a stitch-job of a bunch of contradictory rewrites, and what's worse is it has no actual ending. Just a cliffhanger that is normally the "poo poo's gone WEIRD" twist in most JRPG's at around the 2/3rd's or 3/4 mark of the story. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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Jul 20, 2018 17:12
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punk rebel ecks posted:Also, XBX was terrible and I hope Monolith never revisits it. You have made a powerful enemy this day. I hope they are able to revisit the setting in a future game, and I would buy a switch rerelease day 1.
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Exactly. XBX had the makings of a great game. But it was too ambitious. The devs seemingly wanted to make a JRPG version of an Elder Scrolls game (i.e. huge open world with a focus on tons of side quests) but in half the time. And yeah, the story sucked but right when it was getting interesting it faded to black and went back to the main menu.
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Jul 20, 2018 17:30
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who cares about the story, the planet was loving incredible to explore, the exploration in XC1 and XC2 is poo poo compared to it
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Jul 20, 2018 17:36
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I enjoyed this game and all of the sword wives are my friends
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Jul 20, 2018 17:39
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Yeah, XCX is still my favorite Xenoblade by far.
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Jul 20, 2018 17:40
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U-DO Burger posted:who cares about the story, the planet was loving incredible to explore, the exploration in XC1 and XC2 is poo poo compared to it I actually enjoyed exploring in XC1 more than XCX. XC1 felt much more crafted while XCX had the randomly generated feel.
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U-DO Burger posted:who cares about the story, the planet was loving incredible to explore, the exploration in XC1 and XC2 is poo poo compared to it The game as-is is only 'acceptable' as a finished product in the WiiU version with the excuse that they ran out of time/money and had to ship. That doesn't fly when you're hypothetically revisiting the game to port/remake it with XC2 money and more Nintendo funding.
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They should rename the Xenoblade X series to something else. Like Nintendo did to Secret of Mana.
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