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how dare you suggest that a party almost entirely represented by upper middle class educated white people doesn't know how to appeal to the working class!
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If Greens get Maiwar there's going to be some real salt from QLD LNP and ALP.
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tithin posted:Have y'all considered just chilling the gently caress out because holy loving poo poo We are having a jocular conversation.
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https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/936365825455415296
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Going to bring up the class issue in the state office election debrief, see what happens.
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Dec 1, 2017 02:48
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I work in a servo mate, get farked.
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Zenithe posted:I work in a servo mate, get farked. Look at this so called Greenie, supporting big oil,
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Don Dongington posted:Look at this so called Greenie, supporting big oil, Yeah put your money where your mouth is ya dog.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Page three and the thread has already turned to poo poo. You could always immigrate to CanPol and know that the threads start out as poo poo and never get better.
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CrazyTolradi posted:If Greens get Maiwar there's going to be some real salt from QLD LNP and ALP. There's already a fuckton of salt. Labor hacks are pushing a line on social media that the result is illegitimate because most of the LNP voters would have preferenced Labor over Greens.
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thatbastardken posted:Going to bring up the class issue in the state office election debrief, see what happens. It's a rather big topic given the same sex plebiscite result. It's been put to me, and I don't really have a reply to it, that in Australia no longer do we have any party that appeals to the working class because to be accepting of just "the working class" means to accept not just their financial and social circumstance but also their financial and social views which are largely incompatible with those who seek to represent them. Their response has been to latch onto any outsider party, no matter how long show (Palmer) or even more racist (Hanson), because they take a look at Liberals, Labor and the Greens and they can see that none of them are them. In one of Waleed Aly's better pieces he wrote about how the current political party system makes no sense in the modern world and if we were to make parties today from scratch politics would have three parties; a right of One Nation members, Australian Conservatives and the most wingnut of Liberal members; a "moderate" centrist party of the less right wing Liberal members, the right wing of the Labor party, Xenophon, independents; and a left of the leftist Labor and Greens. Even in that criteria it's based on political views, not political membership, and I'm not sure where the working class fits.
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Kafka Syrup posted:There's already a fuckton of salt. Labor hacks are pushing a line on social media that the result is illegitimate because most of the LNP voters would have preferenced Labor over Greens. thats not how preferential voting works
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Lid posted:thats not how preferential voting works Yep. They seem to be saying the current voting system is "undemocratic" and are pushing Condorcet voting - except that would have handed South Brisbane and possibly McConnell to the Greens. It's an odd line. They're also pushing the usual "demographic has changed and now Maiwar isn't working class anymore and is full of rich tory nimbys like all green voters are" even though it's never been working class, has always been a swing seat, and the nimbyism was only really a factor in a handful of areas.
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I mean, Maiwar is an amalgamation of the Indro and (most of)Mt Coot-tha electorates, so it's not unsurprising that there's some interesting results. You've basically got a massive young student population living in toowong, st lucia, indooroopilly, etc that are captured by the new boundary and that offsets the nimby upper middle class set.
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The Before Times posted:I mean, Maiwar is an amalgamation of the Indro and (most of)Mt Coot-tha electorates, so it's not unsurprising that there's some interesting results. You've basically got a massive young student population living in toowong, st lucia, indooroopilly, etc that are captured by the new boundary and that offsets the nimby upper middle class set. I'm not sure how much of a factor that's been. I know it historically didn't make a difference since most students weren't enrolled to vote in that seat, but the postal survey might have changed that. most of the young people I spoke to were voting Green anyway so I didn't really get a handle on what issues or initiatives resonated with them. The NIMBYs were (unsurprisingly) really into the planning reform and anti-corruption stuff but were very angry about the public holidays and housing packages we proposed. There was quite a number of young professionals and Gen Xers who were into the childcare, enviro and housing packages.
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Kafka Syrup posted:I'm not sure how much of a factor that's been. I know it historically didn't make a difference since most students weren't enrolled to vote in that seat, but the postal survey might have changed that. Before, IIRC from having lived in both electorates before, the young student vote was split between the Mt Coot-tha and Indooroopilly electorates. So bringing those together and getting rid of parts of inner north Brisbane might have had a noteworthy impact. Impossible to tell, of course. The marriage survey would probably have been a factor as well, yeah.
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We should start a death pool for Malcolm Turnbulls reign as PM. I'm taking 5th February.
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Yeah a Corbynesque figure is far more likely to come from Labor than the Greens and I say that after campaigning with the Greens for about a year and a half now.CrazyTolradi posted:It's not like the Greens have a very strong following from younger people, who are largely under the average take home pay and honestly just want to have any kind of chance of a career. Imagine what that would be like, maybe we would be able to get more than half the groups getting literally a single person sitting at a meeting under 40 at a designated young greens SDC and maybe the over-55s wouldn't be literally the single biggest demographic in the Greens membership. Doctor Spaceman posted:Lots of them on the North Coast of NSW then? I'm assuming those are the ex-nationals whose platforms are "We're the Nats but also Trees" and put Liberal 2. In conclusion Krabboss posted:everybody in australia likes to sniff their own farts, no matter their political persuasions.
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Senor Tron posted:We should start a death pool for Malcolm Turnbulls reign as PM. I'm taking 5th February. That really would be a super bowl day.
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The Before Times posted:Before, IIRC from having lived in both electorates before, the young student vote was split between the Mt Coot-tha and Indooroopilly electorates. So bringing those together and getting rid of parts of inner north Brisbane might have had a noteworthy impact. Impossible to tell, of course. The marriage survey would probably have been a factor as well, yeah. Yeah I'm not looking forward to debrief, because I don't think we can really point to any one thing that the campaigns did that really swung a lot of votes. A bunch of things - both external and in our control - just lead to an insane swing across SEQ for us. Senor Tron posted:We should start a death pool for Malcolm Turnbulls reign as PM. I'm taking 5th February. also 24 December. merry christmas everybody
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Dec 1, 2017 04:04
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Put me down for January 25th
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December 26th
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January 22. It's closest without going over, right?
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Lizard Combatant posted:January 22. Good question. I'd go for simple closest but what do others think? Google Doc where I'll collect guesses: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ypj-aW_tG51LblHUWfaDO9qnM2CIt300u7XbH2inI8U/edit?usp=sharing
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I'm Jan 24. Just in time for tones to give prince harry a knighthood
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88th of fuckruary
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Visidan posted:88th of fuckruary Please don't alt right on the thread.
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2 weeks
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6th of February
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does it actually say anywhere in the constitution or whatever that we actually need a prime minister, just leave the position empty
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I went outside and it's positively scottish out there
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Yeah some drain overflow dripped right in my och aye
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Drain status : Holding. I built a levee out of potting mix bags as well
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If Turnbull's not out by the 2nd week of January I doubt they'll have the nerve to knife him later, they want a clear run at the next election. Any later and he gets a pawprint on the Budget and there's no way they could let him take credit for an election budget.
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Senor Tron posted:We should start a death pool for Malcolm Turnbulls reign as PM. I'm taking 5th February. He could actually survive a while because nobody really wants to boot another PM and nobody really wants to go down with the ship at the next election. So put me down for the maniac 6 month/next election option. Of course Bennelong could go to Labor and he could be out before Christmas.
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Mid-year for Turnbull for me. They have no one else desirable to replace him with so it will take them at least that long to get Murdoch to spin up and pimp out a new candidate.
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