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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Star Citizen really is the best game.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

Pretty sure this is Crytek looking for an out on their financial troubles and getting really desperate. I hope this falls through and SC keeps trucking along and the cost just wrecks crytek for trying to take a petty shot at nothing to solve their problem instead of having a viable business.

Source your quotes.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Lol they can’t even release a holiday special on time.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Fried Watermelon posted:

did they do the stream yet or do they break for the holidays?

2 more hours friend for the pre recorded live stream.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

This belongs here as well.

Sarsapariller posted:

Added

Unofficial demo upload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg

Timestamps:
Cafeteria Scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=117s
Ser Davos gets shoved by the map: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=725s
Crobberts rips off terminator joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=982s
Encounter with mopman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=1058s
Man disappears from flight deck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=1124s
Hammil's dancy landing gear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=1441s
Dancing flight deck guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=1498s
Fighter launches, demo takes a poo poo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=1537s
Amazing appearing chair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg#t=2103s
Janky fighter combat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=2271s
Player barely survives navigating a stationary spacecraft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=2640s
40 minute pointless flight to planet surface: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=2785s
Astonishing grate-handling gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=3611s
Stealth takedowns and combat with static target-dummy AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEaIgmpDg&t=3676s

Not pictured: 2 hours of pointless running

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

mods change my name posted:

Does that annoying dude with the bowtie still report on star citizen on that "fan news" show?

Of course. Do you think he has anything else going on in his life?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Yeah definitely not a scam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VwCNZvQ1g

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Inescapable Duck posted:

I think people feel calling it a scam is assuming Roberts actually knows what he's doing.

While this is true I wouldn’t assume for a second that he’s he one running the scam. He’s the puppet and probably has some say but there are definitely people working behind him that are up to no good.

Ps buy more ships.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Alpha.

No trading. No exploration.

It’s one system with a few quests? Combat is working?

Doors mostly don’t work.

It crashes a lot.

It’s an ALPHA screams the citizen!!!!

6 years into development.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

marktheando posted:

So all you can do in the alpha is dogfighting in one single system? What about the famous ships, how many of them can you use in the alpha?

I’m still confused as to why the fans haven’t turned on this game. People were sending death threats to the No Mans Sky guy and that’s a game that’s far closer to what was promised than this seems to be.

Uh I think maybe 30% of the ships that they have sold are actually flyable in game? Someone can correct me but it might not even be that many.

The poo poo they are selling most of it doesn’t even have anything besides a fancy .jpg and some bullshit specs.

Hell they are selling ground vehicles that have no place in the game. Buy a Tonk.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I know ED gets poo poo on a lot but it’s a real game that works that you can play right now. It’s going to do everything that SC is trying to do.

quote:

In Elite, right this second, I am 1.5 light seconds from a planetoid that just did a slingshot around a neutron star. Its orbit is elliptical, about one hour or so. I intend to land on it while it is relatively distant from the star, but outside its destructive particle jet cones. I am flying a stripped down Diamondback Explorer, and to get here I repeatedly boosted my max jump range in other neutron stars... after departing a small but growing community of remote colonies that did not exist two years ago.

I like ED and I’ll freely admit it’s definitely not for everyone. SC really has nothing on ED and really never will.
It’s pretty amazing if you compare the games side by side.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Re: Marketing

They really are loving great(evil) at this. If the lay person takes a quick look at all of their promotional videos and poo poo you can easily think this is the greatest space game ever.

That’s one thing that seriously pisses me off the game looks like it should be loving amazing and something I’d love to play except none of it is actually playable or even started in the pipeline.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Svensken posted:

Can we at least expect to see some assets that can be used by actually competent people once this house out cards inevitably collapses?

I mean, must have something to show for all this, right?

Sure I’m sure someone will use generic halomarine001.jpg or the warthog rip off.

Also a lot of their stupid ship models have poly counts that no PC will be able to push in a game setting for literally years.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

a hot gujju bhabhi posted:

like ok the site is cool and good but you don't think maybe you've gone a little over the top here?

Like they’ve gone 180 million over the top?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Captain Yossarian posted:

loving god drat dragons dogma is v good...

Yeah it actually is.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Elderbean posted:

gently caress, now I want to replay Dragon's Dogma.

Do it!

Now I want it on the switch.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Pube Factory posted:

Wait, what? Why couldn't you hang out with your rich friend who also smelled bad when you were 15?

reasons man. He said it right there 'reasons'

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Beet Wagon posted:

Aww yeah it's time for a new concept ship!



uhhh, well, okay. Shoot. Sorry, CCP!

https://twitter.com/EveOnline/status/1007352147426594816

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

VictorianQueerLit posted:

Depends on the capital ship, since you could probably only get 6-8 decently fit Moros for $120.

The point is that in an actual game you can build a giant fleet of ships for the cost of a concept art image in another hypothetical game.

I think I spent $45 on 3 timecards last year and built a fleet so large that after hundreds of kills on dozens of ops and dozens of my own losses I still have 60-70 fully fit ships covering almost every role leftover. And timecard prices have doubled since then.

So that same $45 you could have bought the base SC ship.

Who's the fool now?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Regrettable posted:

And my game is better than yours and any other game ever made.

*gives you 200 million*

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Icochet posted:

Hasn't everybody who is not literally clinically insane already demanded a refund?

I'd say no.

There are quite a few backers that threw money at this thing and probably haven't been following it very closely. I mean if you just look at the stupid loving videos CIG puts out it looks like the game is coming along pretty awesomely. If you do even the smallest of digging though you'll see that is not the case.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Hey though at least you can have a hot tub on your space chariot complete with volumetric water.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

katka posted:

I don't know much about the industry side of games, but does the big triple A stuff even get a budget as big as Star Citizen has? Maybe I'm wildly underestimating how much games cost to make, but I can't imagine even something like COD or Battlefield cost 200 million.

Basically, is this poo poo show the biggest waste of money the games industry has ever seen?

Citizens like to pull out games like GTA and poo poo and claim they cost nearly the same but what they love to leave out is that the actual production of the game was half the number and the rest was marketing and poo poo.

So no, no other game has even really come close to this cluster gently caress.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Any new developments (lol)?

This whole thing is just fascinating.

Oh yeah! The game is good! Buy the new $350 ship it works great! (doesn't work great)

I almost forgot the best part! They are "releasing" the game every 3 months.

Also they are going to give an update to the update for a possible release of S42 in December ( they said that last year). The game is never ever ever coming out.

MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Oct 13, 2018

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:

is it out of pre alpha yet

LOL

Try again in 2021.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Evil Agita posted:

Tbh monetizing video game cults make perfect loving sense

I mean at this point these people deserve to get fleeced.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:

i hope star citizen has a Special Wing Special where if you buy a fleet (wing) of ships you get the 13th free

Oh well they "released" a space aircraft carrier that you have to ask nicely to see if you can even buy it so it might (LOL) come with a ship!

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:

can i get some deets on this, this sounds amazing

Well...

Citizen Con 2048 9 or what the gently caress ever was "sponsored" by the fake in game company drake whatever who made this.





These were all over the venue



This is what you have to do because it is an ultra limited item or whatever



This is what you get back if you haven't spent money / enough money :shrug:


This is what you'll see if you are citizen enough



There is no way this ship is not way north of $2k

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Few other lol things.

They haven't really started working on Female models yet because ( lol) there aren't really any female characters in S42 its mostly males age 25-40.

The facial DNA that they are hyping up as something truly amazing and ground breaking is something they bought from someone and they were going to scrap it but they somehow managed to Frankenstein it into the engine.

They said a lot of stuff off the cuff but honestly at this point I'm having a hard time coming up with anything they have actually made vs something they bought and spent a poo poo load of time trying to get to work with the engine that they also bought.

Real ground breaking stuff here.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Bar Patron posted:

So there is 85 minutes of new gameplay that can be seen here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac6gtAOvK6E

It seems like a buggy mess with some pretty textures, a younger me would have been impressed. If you can’t be bothered to watch it all, just watch the new FOIP (Face over IP) system in action at around 9:25.

My personal favourite segment was when that one guys face kind of fell off then jumped back on at 21:19.

Ok again none of this is from SQ42 though :confused:

Like it’s all the star citizen stuff

Edit sorry I was thinking this was the other thread. Still though they haven’t shown poo poo from SQ42 the game that’s supposed to come out soon.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:

its amazing that they broke this up into tinier projects (42 thing) and still havent managed a release

how tf did they not take like 10 of the millions they got and hired a russian team to make an unreal mod for them. im sure they could parlay that into more money

Chris Roberts would have none of that for his space epic.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Yeah I had fun with BL2. I don’t think I finished it but I did sink a pretty go number of hours into it and had fun while I was playing.

It wasn’t amazing but it was entertaining.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I’d love a diablo with guns.

A good one.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

By popular demand posted:

Duke Nukem Forever had cost over 30 million and took 15 years to develop, I wonder if Roberts has what it takes to surpass this in both ways.

I mean we are like what 6 years in at this point and 200 million+ sooo he absolutely has what it takes!

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Arcsquad12 posted:

What in the ever loving gently caress is this.

$180 million, that's what.

$200 million.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007



Definitely gonna get owned.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:

i would be curious to know how the tickle porn is related to the money laundering

E: also i would be curious to know what money laundering is happening

It’s a long story but something something the tickle porn company ties in to RSI and the people running RSI.

They literally have like 12 shell companies at this point for like no reason.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:

i wonder if star citizen runs so lovely on ppls computers because theyre using it to mine bitcoin

Looking at the Bitcoin thread and the state of it I would absolutely say that would be the case.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:

Did they blink

That’s gonna come in a future patch. Check the road map. Blinking NPCs was a stretch goal.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Elderbean posted:

Isn't the cryengine known for being kinda unoptimized? Why would you use it to make a persistent MMO? Like I know Roberts is an idiot but you'd think someone would have said something.

As far as I know it's almost entirely been used for first person shooters.

Because it looks pretty.

Edit: Also because they made the Kickstarter demo and offered him a sweet deal on the engine.


Also CiG is getting sued by crytek over this.

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