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   Welcome to the end of 2017   2017-britain.jpg The Department for Exiting the European Union finally released some reports and they were bad, like ridiculous bullshit, David Davis might have to stand before Parliament accused of contempt, and after a year of "we're not going to pay the ridiculous divorce bill" we're probably going to pay the divorce bill, and now just have to settle the minor issue of the Irish border, which has only been a problem since about 1922. According to some Street Adults, Ireland is just being petty about the border issues because 'they lost'.   In The News A report by the BMJ shows that austerity has been responsible for 120,000 excess deaths since 2010. The Paradise Papers show that surprisingly many of the wealthy and powerful, including the Queen's estate, have been dodging taxes with offshore loopholes. Priti Patel has an interesting holiday and then resigns. Nobody will see the slides for another 50 years. Richard Leonard is elected as ScotLab leader after Kezia Dugdale resigned, beating Anas Sarwar. Labour liberals have some hot takes. After voting to leave the EU, British cities are enraged about no longer being able to apply to be European Capital of Culture. Britain will also be 'kicked out' of Europol and the European Defence Agency 'against its will'. Michel Barnier accuses the UK of abandoning Europe at a time when it should be standing shoulder to shoulder against non-Europeans. Mass panic closes Oxford Circus after nonexistent terrorists target a tube station. An American actor gets engaged to a former British soldier. The OECD says that the dire predictions from the ONS, anticipating five years of sluggish growth, are 'too optimistic'. The UK loses its seat on the International Court of Justice for the first time. The government's autumn budget goes after the youth vote with 'railcards for people up to 30' and 'some stamp duty poo poo that will cost the treasury £3.2bn and not do anything about house prices'. The Foreign Office advises that Ireland ignores Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson. Amber Rudd proposes changes to the Investigatory Powers Act in response to Tom Watson's successful legal claim, but critics say they don't go far enough in protecting people's rights. Some actual Brexit impact studies have been released, but they're not the ones David Davis wants you to see. Days until Brexit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMTgS2mkObA UKMT Christmas ListStop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance Peter Linebaugh Libertarian Communism Isaac Puente Amestoy At The Cafι Malatesta The Method of Freedom Malatesta In Praise of Idleness Russell Political Ideals Russell Declaration Hardt and Negri Liberalism, a Counter History Domenico Losurdo God and the State Bakunin The Conquest of Bread Kropotkin Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism V I Lenin Anarchism and Other Essays Emma Goldman Social Reform or Revolution Rosa Luxemburg Violence Slavoj Zizek Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber Flat Earth News - Nick Davies Ecology of Freedom Murray Bookchin Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left Murray Bookchin Let's Read Das Kapital Karl Marx and Goons UKMT (thanks feedmegin)quote:I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land. Sounds of the UndergroundAnother Brick in the Wall UKMT November UKMT October UKMT September UKMT August UKMT July All Previous UKMTs (thanks Pesky Splinter) Mull of Kintyre Scotpol Thread Can We Fix It? Europol Thread Day Tripper Trainchat Thread Somethin' Stupid Political Cartoons Thread It's Only Make Believe #ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix). Always on My Mind quote:1. It's not a person's fault if they are poor; Happy Winterval all! 
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Irish first post. Give us Arlene or we'll veto for future.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/936385350758490112 LIB DEM FIGHT BACK HERE WE HERE WE HERE WE loving GO!!!
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Looking forward to the big fat quiz of the year.
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In response to OwlFancier- I agree, and the state has an important role to play in this, as does the nationalisation of the railways and utilities. However, I would have thought that this was achievable in a Social-Liberal framework, without the lack of access to trade, credit and investment that adopting full communism here without the support of more powerful communist benefactors would result.
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/936385350758490112 lol whats the median wealth of that district
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/936385350758490112 That's a weird loving result. Lord_Adonis posted:In response to OwlFancier- I agree, and the state has an important role to play in this, as does the nationalisation of the railways and utilities. However, I would have thought that this was achievable in a Social-Liberal framework, without the lack of access to trade, credit and investment that adopting full communism here without the support of more powerful communist benefactors would result. "Liberalize stuff or we'll starve you" is hardly a ringing endorsement of liberalism mate.
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At least the year is ending all on a low note, you'll finally get some much needed diversity in your royal family! post probie-E: yowzers that was supposed to say 'isn't ending all on a low note'. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) hakimashou fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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Venuz Patrol posted:lol whats the median wealth of that district Torrington is a complete shithole lol hakimashou posted:At least the year is ending all on a low note, you'll finally get some much needed diversity in your royal family! gently caress off Nazi
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OwlFancier posted:"Liberalize stuff or we'll starve you" is hardly a ringing endorsement of liberalism mate. I think I may have expressed myself incorrectly. What I meant to say was that I agree with you that our dwindling resources should not be subject to further deregulation and privatisation. The state has an important role to play, as does nationalisation. However, this can be achieved in a Social-Liberal framework. Adopting a full communist framework would cut us off from ready access to the trade, credit and investment that we need to compensate for our resource and industrial deficiencies. Communism would only be possible via association with a sufficiently powerful alliance of communist states, or if we had a powerful communist benefactor like the USSR.
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Lord_Adonis posted:a powerful communist benefactor like the USSR. lol
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I think I got whiplash going from deriding the concept of socialism in one country to suggesting that the USSR could fix it.
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OwlFancier posted:I think I got whiplash going from opining the concept of socialism in one country to suggesting that the USSR could fix it. My point is that for a nation of limited energy, agricultural and industrial means like ours, socialism in one country is impossible, and would require the support of a stronger nation with the means to help us offset that deficiency, like the economic relationship between the USSR and her clients and allies.
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Adonis I'm not sure you're using the same definition of liberal as other people here. Liberalism is unregulated free markets and private ownership of utilities, both of which are strictly inferior in all cases to regulation and public ownership of utilities, which is morally inferior to the proletariat sharing equity ownership of the means of production but might protect you from being murdered by yanks
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Guavanaut posted: A report by the BMJ shows that austerity has been responsible for 120,000 excess deaths since 2010. I prefer to describe this as "Tory policy has been responsible for the death of one in every 500 Britons". It puts it slightly more in perspective for people who can't count.
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Spangly A posted:Adonis I'm not sure you're using the same definition of liberal as other people here. Liberalism is unregulated free markets and private ownership of utilities, both of which are strictly inferior in all cases to regulation and public ownership of utilities, which is morally inferior to the proletariat sharing equity ownership of the means of production but might protect you from being murdered by yanks Thanks for the clarification- I was under the impression that Social-Liberalism was synonymous with Social-Democracy, and simply meant a liberal attitude to social issues coupled with progressive income and wealth taxation, public ownership of sections of the economy and state intervention. I guess that you can read Social Democracy where I have written Social-Liberalism.
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Social liberalism as a phrase doesn't really make much sense, it's like saying non lethal murder.
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/936385350758490112 Did labour not contest?
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tithin posted:Did labour not contest? Yup. It's Devon, never going to be a Labour target seat. Did like this factoid from Britain Elect's "by-election in August to Great Torrington town council – which has the same boundaries as this ward – created controversy after the (unsuccessful) Liberal Democrat candidate reportedly sent an explicit picture of himself dressed as a mouse to the (unsuccessful) Labour candidate."
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Jose your new av is incredible.
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Time for the monthly checkup. Would it be correct to categorize the UK situation as "snafu"?
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It's more like Wile E Coyote running on air before he's looked down Good news for everyone thrown in the toilet by the government's electrification priorities! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s4heZe7ChM
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Right about now, Charlie Brooker finds out what 2017 Wipe is going to be about and is refusing to leave his dressing room.
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ewe2 posted:Right about now, Charlie Brooker finds out what 2017 Wipe is going to be about and is refusing to leave his dressing room. He already found out there isn't going to be one so that sounds unlikely
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Thanks Ants posted:Thread title is
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It seems there were four by-elections last night with Lib Dems winning all of them, one hold and one gain each from Labour, Tories and UKIP.
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:It seems there were four by-elections last night with Lib Dems winning all of them, one hold and one gain each from Labour, Tories and UKIP. Maybe people are really turning against the brexit.
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hakimashou posted:Maybe people are really turning against the brexit. Go away, we don't like nazis here
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I see people call out hakimashou as a Nazi a lot, what's that all about? he showed up in the auspol thread last month to congrats our lgbt peeps on voting yes during the plebiscite and people were immediately jumping on him so i was like ?????????
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I get him and the other rear end in a top hat mixed up a lot but hakimashou iirc has wonderful views such as: 'the US should have nuked the entire USSR after the end of ww2 to prevent communism/stalinism' and 'it's the Palestinians' own fault that Israel keeps genociding them '. I forget if it's him or the other nazi idiot who thinks slavery can be okay under certain circumstances as well? He usually does this by concern trolling instead of outright saying it as well which is even more annoying.
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Yo Goons, who should I vote for in the NEC? Give me the Jezza ticket please!
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TheRat posted:He already found out there isn't going to be one so that sounds unlikely Ah spit. I needed that show after this year.
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Miftan posted:I get him and the other rear end in a top hat mixed up a lot but hakimashou iirc has wonderful views such as: 'the US should have nuked the entire USSR after the end of ww2 to prevent communism/stalinism' and 'it's the Palestinians' own fault that Israel keeps genociding them '. I forget if it's him or the other nazi idiot who thinks slavery can be okay under certain circumstances as well? Also Like Intrinsic Field Marshall and Pissflaps, he has indulged in holocaust denialism. Damian Green computer porn claims: 'Thousands' of images viewed quote:Neil Lewis examined the device during a 2008 inquiry into government leaks and has not spoken publicly before. So the porn was legal then but extreme now?
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/936385350758490112 I really wish that these things gave actual numbers, there's enough space on Twitter for that now.
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:Yo Goons, who should I vote for in the NEC? Give me the Jezza ticket please! Yasmine Dar, Rachel Darnham and Jon Lansman I believe?
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I really hope that in the next PMQ's the absolute boy says something like 'I have an email here from Bob Jones in Colchester, which says - In my job, in the contract it says any use of work computers and internet connection for accessing websites for viewing pornographic material is gross disciplinary misconduct and is grounds for instant dismissal - does the prime minister agree that this is a standard protocol?' I doubt he will though, he to decent 
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