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Torrannor posted:Edit: I'm reading companion dialogue in the Dragon Age wiki. The conversations between Vivienne and Solas are just vicious, I love it. I'm currently using the mod that let's everyone do every classes exploration interactions and running with Dorian/Vivienne/Solas and it's amazing. Constant snarking at each other with the odd conversation or two of Dorian and Vivi talking about missing creature comforts or Dorian and Solas discussing how much they enjoy being magic, then going back to arguing in the next one.
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chaosapiant posted:Sera is a good and fun companion and I’ll never get all the hate she gets. Yeah, she grew on me too. My main playthrough Inquisitor even wound up marrying her and that was kinda heartwarming. KittyEmpress posted:I'm currently using the mod that let's everyone do every classes exploration interactions and running with Dorian/Vivienne/Solas and it's amazing. Constant snarking at each other with the odd conversation or two of Dorian and Vivi talking about missing creature comforts or Dorian and Solas discussing how much they enjoy being magic, then going back to arguing in the next one. That sounds cool. What does it do exactly? You always get inter-party dialogue?
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May 31, 2020 14:43
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I feel like every time the main quest advances Josephine's chair gets bigger.
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May 31, 2020 15:05
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Sera has three reasons why people don't like her: 1. Terrible introduction 2. Obnoxious attitude 3. Is a Rogue, a Rogue who isn't You, or the infinitely more interesting characters Varric and Cole, so why ever bring her?
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May 31, 2020 15:32
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Cole is so much worse than Sera.
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May 31, 2020 15:35
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exquisite tea posted:Cole is so much worse than Sera. Hard Agree.
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May 31, 2020 15:46
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Sera has three reasons why people don't like her: 4. Is a gay black Republican 5. Is the lesbian romance option (both from lesbians who hate her and from straight male gamers)
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May 31, 2020 15:53
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It's been a while, but I found her jarring. And this utterly terrible poo poo accent, innit.
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May 31, 2020 17:13
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Her accent's just Derbyshire, it's not fake, and I don't think it's terribly fair to dislike the character for having an accent (although I admit my own dislike of Dorian is probably not innocent in that respect). I think it's Sera's dialogue being so terrible that brings her accent into disrepute.
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May 31, 2020 17:21
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Cythereal posted:I take that stuff to mean that Sera is natively a mage, but she is so repressed and hosed up in the head that she can't use her potential. He even tricks her into seeing through the Breach at one point and she panics the entire time she’s in the Fade if you take her, complaining of voices. She’s a Mage that is too terrified to ever acknowledge her powers. exquisite tea posted:Cole is so much worse than Sera. He’s weird and creepy, but otherwise okay. At least now that he’s figured out ways to help people beyond mercy kills.
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May 31, 2020 17:28
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Geostomp posted:He’s weird and creepy, but otherwise okay. At least now that he’s figured out ways to help people beyond mercy kills. I like that Cole wasn't forced into becoming a real boy, that his identity as a spirit was presented as just as valid as his identity as a human.
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May 31, 2020 17:30
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I don't like Sera. Cole is forgettable, but not too annoying either. Anyhow, I also didn't remember Ancient Rock Wraith could be this easy. Would have been even easier if I remember to use manual tactics (e.g. not have the AI waste haste in the beginning of the fight), but I'll take it. 
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May 31, 2020 17:35
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Was english accent signifying character background done somewhere else than Sera and Orlais folks? I have terrible ear for them, so I could overlook it easily.
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May 31, 2020 17:45
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alex314 posted:Was english accent signifying character background done somewhere else than Sera and Orlais folks? I have terrible ear for them, so I could overlook it easily. A lot of places. Zevran and Josephine having Spanish accents to signify them being from Fantasy Spain, the accent of Dalish Elves being all Welsh and weird while the City Elves were more common sounding, etc.
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alex314 posted:It's been a while, but I found her jarring. And this utterly terrible poo poo accent, innit. That's what every single person talking about troubleshooting and PC specs sounds like in my head. alex314 posted:Was english accent signifying character background done somewhere else than Sera and Orlais folks? I have terrible ear for them, so I could overlook it easily. The Dwarves... are Canadian, eh? Ferelden is England, so English accents there. Orlais is France The Dalish are Welsh or Irish. The Avvar are... I forgot. Not sure about Qunari.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:The Avvar are... I forgot. I recall some Yorkshire accents there. Skywatcher sounds like my dad. What about Cassandra? I can't place the Nevarran accent.
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eating only apples posted:I recall some Yorkshire accents there. Skywatcher sounds like my dad. Reddit says Prussian? Like German with French influence.
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Smol posted:I don't like Sera. Cole is forgettable, but not too annoying either. What is his alliteration for, except to annoy?
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To sound spoooooooky.
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They were going for otherworldly but missed the mark. Cole is pretty bad, but he's worth having around to see other characters react to his omniscient nonsense. The only good companion is Varric. He deserves so much better than to be stuck with the Inquisition. My favorite bit of his is when he schools Solas on his paternalistic bullshit. quote:Solas: Is there at least a movement to reunite Orzammar and Kal-Sharok? Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Jun 1, 2020 |
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Jun 1, 2020 07:08
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Uh, Dorian is the best. Along with Blackwall. and Sera. Everyone else can go away. Edit: But, really, Dorian is truly the best and he needs to return in the next game.
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Jun 1, 2020 07:38
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Dorian has his moments, but he's also a slavery apologist. No best boy for him.
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Skippy McPants posted:Dorian has his moments, but he's also a slavery apologist. No best boy for him. A slavery apologist who still praises the Tevinter culture after his father tried to forcibly gay convert him using magic. Cool dude, but it's like having a friend who's fun and witty and way into the same hobbies then shows up to a party in a MAGA hat and wants to debate people.
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pentyne posted:Cool dude, but it's like having a friend who's fun and witty and way into the same hobbies then shows up to a party in a MAGA hat and wants to debate people. What I liked about him is that I don't think he every brings up any of this unless you ask him or unless he has a good reason like his father actively seeking him. Even with his personal quest I think he says just forget about it and you have to press him into resolving that conflict. If you don't inquire you'll never know about his views on Tevinter, him being child-free confirmed bachelor and thinking that slavery is not that bad. He's just a quirky fancy exotic mage unless you ask him. That's the difference between him and Sera: I think people who like her had really dug deep into her character. But on the surface she irritates many people. Not saying that one character is good and the other is bad, I like diverse roster.
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Dorian thinks slavery is cool entirely because he doesnt see a difference between it and having a peasant class. He brings up how just like a Magister can kill a slave with impunity, a nobleman in any other nation in Thedas can murder their peasants without anyone batting an eye. You can argue with him about that and he will concede that maybe you are right, but wow. That conversation was certainly loving weird.
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PureRok posted:Uh, Dorian is the best. Along with Blackwall. Blackwall is great, and you should listen to his views on arrogant poshboy Dorian.
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pentyne posted:Cool dude, but it's like having a friend who's fun and witty and way into the same hobbies then shows up to a party in a MAGA hat and wants to debate people. He's not quite that bad. He does understand on a fundamental level that slavery is wrong, but he still corners himself into defending it because his brain was broken at a very young age and he's still in the midst of the long, hard processes of unfucking his world view. He'll probably get there at some point, but as of DAI he's not there yet. KittyEmpress posted:Dorian thinks slavery is cool entirely because he doesnt see a difference between it and having a peasant class. He brings up how just like a Magister can kill a slave with impunity, a nobleman in any other nation in Thedas can murder their peasants without anyone batting an eye. That conversation, and argument, is ripped directly from the lips of every slave owner in history. "Slaves are better off than the working poor because I—their master—must take good care of them so they can profit me!" It's an argument as common as it is patently bullshit.
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Skippy McPants posted:That conversation, and argument, is ripped directly from the lips of every slave owner in history. "Slaves are better off than the working poor because I—their master—must take good care of them so they can profit me!" It's an argument as common as it is patently bullshit. He also talks about how a poor person can become a slave and not starve. What not to like! Seriously though I quite like this talk. He reminds you that you aren't first-world Earthling talking about how slavery is bad. You are a character in a fantasy world. Dwarves have castes (you can play as mafia dwarf and some lore book talks about how in modern days caste system pushes lower class dwarves into organized crime), humans mostly rely on inhumane feudalism and subjugate elves, qunari have their own strange thing. Of course, it's still essentially "you criticize capitalism but you use iPhone" argument. But I like his whataboutism and all the talk about how you too have slavery, you're just too afraid to call it what it is, and sometimes our honest slavery is even better. In that regard, he somewhat reminds me of Durance character from Pillars of Eternity. Both characters are good take on your usual exotic character - priest and someone not from Fantasy Western Europe. They both have views that are hardly compatible with player's view point but not outlandish in the world itself.
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KittyEmpress posted:Dorian thinks slavery is cool entirely because he doesnt see a difference between it and having a peasant class. He brings up how just like a Magister can kill a slave with impunity, a nobleman in any other nation in Thedas can murder their peasants without anyone batting an eye. Because when Dorian said: "Some slaves are treated poorly, it's true. But do you honestly think inescapable poverty is better?" and then the dialogue option of "At least they have a choice." popped up, I really wanted to go tell the whole writing team to go gently caress themselves.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Reddit says Prussian? Like German with French influence. That....is not what a prussian sounds like. You might be thinking of Alsace? Prussia is the east of Germany, the extremely German bit. OR the baltic tribes I guess if you wanna go mad. Cassandra just sounds vaguely german to me I guess.
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I think Cassandra's VA is just an English actress trying to affect a general German-English accent. Her dental consonants and /v/s are probably a bit too perfect to ever mistake for a native German speaker though.
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Skippy McPants posted:I’d say that, historically, BioWare is pretty good at twists. Leiliana: I am glad Blackwall is here. Even if he is... not what I expected. Good twists are ones where the clues are small enough that you ignore them or think they're just flavor the first time through but big enough that you think they're obvious and get some nice dramatic irony the second time through. I think both blackwall and solas (apparently there's still people just now discovering the game) qualifies. Also I'm just now getting to the point where I need to pick a specialization and I can't decided between Artificer and Assassin for my Archer build. (I played Tempest DW before and am well aware of how bonkers it is. I've never done archer of any kind.) People always say Assassin is for Archers and Tempest is for Dual blades and ignore artificer entirely but someone way earlier off-handedly mentioned that Artificer Archer has the best DPS in the game with the right build. Can someone explain the two and how to be most effective with them more clearly for me? BIG FLUFFY DOG fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jun 1, 2020 |
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Ignore the haters, artificer is fun. Throw multicoloured grenades everywhere! Launch your enemies vertically upwards with upgraded spike traps! Way more entertaining than throwing knives at people.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Also I'm just now getting to the point where I need to pick a specialization and I can't decided between Artificer and Assassin for my Archer build. (I played Tempest DW before and am well aware of how bonkers it is. I've never done archer of any kind.) People always say Assassin is for Archers and Tempest is for Dual blades and ignore artificer entirely but someone way earlier off-handedly mentioned that Artificer Archer has the best DPS in the game with the right build. Can someone explain the two and how to be most effective with them more clearly for me? Artificer Artificer has some flashy tools but the real clincher is this passive: Opportunity Knocks: Reduces cooldown timers whenever you or a party member crits. Combo this with the Sabotage tree ability: Looked Like It Hurt: Restores stamina whenever you crit. Once you have some crit gear, use these with multi-hit abilities and you will never run out of stamina or be on cooldown. Use the free stamina to throw more bombs for fun. Assassin The key Assassin passives are I Was Never Here: Resets stealth cooldown whenever you kill an enemy. Knife In The Shadows: All attacks made from stealth automatically crit. So as you can infer the class is based around getting free crit kills so you can re-stealth and get more free crit kills. Obviously you're going to want Stealth from the Subterfuge tree to take advantage of this, as well as any sort of passive bonus to flanking damage. For non-elite groups the main ability is Hidden Blades with the AoE upgrade. The game does not tell you this but Hidden Blades is also a combo detonator, which means Assassins can self-combo with Knockout Bomb into Hidden Blades. For single elite targets you have several hard-hitting archery abilities to choose from, and of course Mark of Death as a final damage multiplier.
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Played around with Cole and Varric and I think I'm going to go with artificer. Its a lot more fun to zip around the battlefield like spiderman than stay in one place and stealth all the time i think.
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Dorian and Blackwall are like the two decent characters in this game. So I'll forgive Dorian a lot. (Solas is interesting but I don't think he's all that likeable. Varric is of course Varric but it feels not being Hawke.)
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Played around with Cole and Varric and I think I'm going to go with artificer. Its a lot more fun to zip around the battlefield like spiderman than stay in one place and stealth all the time i think. My run with an Assassin character had me zipping all over the battlefield, entering stealth anywhere and everywhere, and coming out with a dual strike for thousands of crit damage. It was hella fun.
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Grundulum posted:My run with an Assassin character had me zipping all over the battlefield, entering stealth anywhere and everywhere, and coming out with a dual strike for thousands of crit damage. It was hella fun. Yeah but I'm playing an archer not DW.
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