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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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chappelle had a second special released on the 31st that goes into details about what he meant. he made some jokes about caitlyn jenner and essentially said the only reason that she made the news at all was her previous status as a white man. had jenner just been another field working minority, everyone would have just said “that’s nice, but we still need to pick these strawberries” (this is chappelle’s argument and poorly quoted jokes not my own opinion)

his entire point was that black people and other minorities (including trans poc) are still poo poo on to an extreme degree and the battle for equality is far from over.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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i dont think the implication is that attention is too quick or wrong, but more to say the fight is long from over for any equality. he’s pretty aware of his own status and self-deprecating about it.

you may have turned it off before getting to some of his comments, but he flat out acknowledges that trans people have it the hardest in the world and he feels for anyone going through transitioning. i’ll see if i can get a direct timestamp or quote if you’re interested.


edit: definitely not trying to start an argument or anything. just offering my (obviously biased) perspective that nothing he said came off particularly anti-trans. he makes dumb jokes but acknowledges realities of the situation.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 17, 2018

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Oct 13, 2005

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not trying to cause drama sorry

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jan 18, 2018

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i guess i’m just an rear end in a top hat then

Mr. Nice!
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i’m not trying to create a big stink. i’m sincerely not trying to be a pain. i’m just a moron trying to understand.

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cis autodrag posted:

What you're doing is posting a guy saying "tranny tranny dick chop" and then going "gee why is this offensive". Stop.

you’re misreading me. i get why crude things could be offensive. most of his humor is extremely crude regardless of the subject. when i saw it originally it came across to me as someone making jokes about a subject in the exact manner he jokes about anything with interspersed sincerity about the harsh realities that people face.

this is not an uncommon thought pattern in the cis community or with people i know. i appreciate you all telling me i’m an idiot without being too lovely towards me. i really mean no ill will and apologize for making ripples.

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Oct 13, 2005

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UberJew posted:

he literally

1) calls tranwomen men
2) calls caitlyn jenner specifically a man
3) reduces a serious health issue to 'feelings'
4) considers the existence and awareness of trans people insulting

in the quote i literally cannot believe you actually read because if you did you would not have written these words


yep! because after you said that you'd be smart and lurk until you figured it out you decided to take this parting shot implying that 'no actually everyone else is just being unreasonable'

not what i was going for at all. wasn’t trying for a parting shot or anything. sorry for the trouble.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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yeah i’m a jackass. sorry.


edit:vvvvvvv
same

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jan 18, 2018

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it would have never occurred to me before that people would use bi as trans exclusionary.

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Glazier posted:

You forgot one bi :haw:



it ain't no lie i also thought of that. but mainly thought of the tv commercial for darren's dance moves.

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Oct 13, 2005

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cis autodrag posted:

Yeah. In Wisconsin they usually bring you the bill halfway through the entree it where I live now it can take ages to get the check but if you hand them a card they will run it right away. Very useful.

You all are a hetero couple right? It'd be interesting to cross reference different situations we've been in to see how people react to gay vs straight couples with a trans person.

i think you may have tapped onto something that lesbians experience more than just transwomen. an ex of mine was married to a woman for three years before we dated, and I seem to recall she had the same complaints. i'll ask a few other lesbian couples i know to see if they get the same treatment. similarly, i'll be out with women friends (cis or otherwise) and they'll typically just bring one check, but if i'm out with another guy (date or not) they'll default to asking if we want to split.


e: after talking with two cis and one trans lesbian friends they all get the split check question. so i don't think it's so much that transphobic micoraggressions are taking place, but rather people assuming that two people of the same gender aren't a couple. more anti-gay than anti-trans, but it does happen to people i know as well. you're not alone in this.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jan 23, 2018

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Krakox posted:

PS how Do I start looking hot regardless of how I identify

lift a weight and/or do some sort of demanding physical activity with regularity. cut alcohol consumption to eliminate empty calories and shittons of extra sugars. if you have the ability to improve your actual diet, do so as much as possible to eliminate junk food. always remember that if calories in < calories out you will lose weight.

i went from over 200lbs to 160 over a year and a half span by simply stopping drinking. beyond that, find yourself clothes that you like and just wear whatever you enjoy.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jan 25, 2018

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cis autodrag posted:

I would advise against a tflc thread. I had one when I first started and it was just a constant barrage of mocking and nastiness. I did way better when I stopped posting in ylls altogether.

people gave you poo poo because you kept making excuses for why you couldn't stick to your routine and for failing your toxx on flimsy grounds. that doesn't make all tflc useless. i'm not going to act like you were in a great place back then (and you seem to be much healthier and happier today so go you), so it's somewhat understandable, but your experience there is not necessarily typical.


Sagebrush posted:

stop going to gyms and go to the YMCA

last time i was there the other people working out were

1) old chinese men going 0.5 miles per hour on the treadmill
2) old white ladies with poofy hair lifting 5 pounds on the arm curl machine
3) a bunch of 98-pound teenagers checking themselves out after every rep
4) a man who looked like marty mcfly's dad, with BO so bad everyone within 20 feet left

it's the least intimidating place to work out imaginable

also you don't need to lift weights to lose weight but there are three main things at work

1) to lose weight, you gotta burn more energy than you eat
2) if you have more muscles your body will naturally use more energy
3) when you lose weight, you will lose both muscle and fat simultaneously (and when you gain weight, you gain both too)

so basically strength training is the best way to maintain that fat-burning muscle mass when you're eating less food than usual.

i am not a meathead bodybuilder or anything -- in fact i was one of those 98-pound weaklings most of my life. but learning the above few things really made a difference to my understanding of fitness

this is a good post

Mr. Nice!
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and definitely not trying to dredge up poo poo and you have came quite a ways from then, but rather just saying that tflc isn't necessarily a bad place. you just had unique circumstances that made yours extra lovely. i totally get why you would warn someone from that.


and yeah my memory is both a blessing and a curse. i won't recall what someone said to me five minutes ago, but the lyrics to scampi from weebl stuff will be burned in my psyche til the day i day.

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Improbable Lobster posted:

was there a reason why he was trash digging?

if autodrag lives in a state that pays for recycling turn in of plastic bottles that’s what he was digging for.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Sagebrush posted:

yeah, uh, is that not a common thing where you are?

round here we have like three or four different old asian people (men and women, but always chinese folks for some reason) who come around on trash day and dig out all the returnable bottles.

it weirded me out a lot at first but it's not like i'm gonna call the cops on them or something so now i just put all the things with deposits in a separate bag beside the recycling bin.

there were old asian people turf wars over that poo poo out in hawaii

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpYsozl0vDE


edit: i do the same thing with a lot of media from my childhood and even some from when i was a young adult that i just didn't get or missed way back when.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 17:16 on May 19, 2018

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atelier morgan posted:

i actually trained for a few years at a dojo (ballet classroom) run by a professor at ucd for a few years but that was twelve years and 100 lbs ago

i still remember basically everything i learned there more than anything else i ever learned but while the spirit is willing the body is flabby, old and busted

you can get back everything with a bit of practice (which would also help with the flabby part) but the thing to remember is this: most people have 0 fighting experience. if you've trained 6 months in something like judo, bjj, or general mma training you're miles ahead of most anyone that would start poo poo with you.

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Oct 13, 2005

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escape is always the preferred tactic when facing down a fight because things can and do go wrong plus very few people can fight off multiple attackers. knowing how to square up and throw a punch or take someone down/choke them is a really good secondary.

Ciaphas posted:

i feel like just being trained in the basics of fighting is a huge advantage nine times out of ten even if you think you're heavy and flabby

boxing coach insisted such few months ago before i blew out my spine (unrelated), anyway. gotta imagine with all the hip and leg work involved in anything that isn't a jab that he's right

(ed) obviously oldalias is right, gotta be in control or at least aware of the overall situation first

absolutely 100%.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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jit bull transpile posted:

c lgbtqia+ s: laughing my rear end off to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlS5LGUTgLI

found out yesterday that jeffree star, besides running his own makeup business, also does an insane amount of merch for other youtubers, rappers, and more. as of the time they filmed the youtube, just running the warehouse (utilities/rent) and paying the 100 employees there costs around $200k/month. to boot, they already have outgrown this 30k sq/ft facility that they recently moved to and have another warehouse as well.

he also owns a shitload of properties worldwide as investments and is closing in on being a billionaire if he’s not already there.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Peeny Cheez posted:

God, was he such a bratty little turd back in the myspace days. Is he still horrible?

he’s still very much an arrogant rear end in a top hat, but everyone that works for him seems to say good things about him and he seems to take care of the people around him. he helped his boyfriend get a product line launched that paid for a monster house for his entire family back home as well.

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Oct 13, 2005

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i mean, as much as he might be deserving of a guillotine, he also basically built himself up from nothing and was escorting in his early days to make end's meet.

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that was last week. i just read through the decision and it's a mess.

the rundown as i can tell is cis-woman was shocked to find a amab woman (please if i'm wrong correct me i'm not deliberately trying to use incorrect terminology) in the locker room and complained. planet fitness told her that there was and unwritten policy that people use whatever locker room corresponds to their gender identity. rather than quit the gym, she then just started transphobic rumors and generally starting poo poo. pf canceled her membership.

the court denied her suit entirely and she appealed, the supreme court affirmed, it got kicked back down and appealed again. the supreme court affirmed all but one section.

the issue at hand is does planet fitness' unwritten policy violate the state's statute against "Unfair, unconscionable, or deceptive methods, acts, or practices in the conduct of trade or commerce"

pf's policy is unwritten and is not directly disclosed. this case would be complete mooted if it was written and disclosed (which is dumb as gently caress, but that's the state of the law). they didn't make a dispositive ruling, but rather kicked it back down to the trial court to make a determination if pf violated these portions of the statute by not disclosing the unwritten policy prior to her joining.

quote:

(s) Failing to reveal a material fact, the omission of which tends to mislead or deceive the consumer, and which fact could not reasonably be known by the consumer.
(bb) Making a representation of fact or statement of fact material to the transaction such that a person reasonably believes the represented or suggested state of affairs to be other than it actually is.
(cc) Failing to reveal facts that are material to the transaction in light of representations of fact made in a positive manner.

so yeah, it's a lovely ruling all in all, but it's not the end of the case. the trial court could easily make a ruling that this policy is not a material fact. this is really where the action will happen. right now this is mostly procedural stuff, but still lovely in a general sense. here's a direct link http://publicdocs.courts.mi.gov/OPINIONS/FINAL/COA/20180726_C331286_83_331286O.OPN.PDF

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jit bull transpile posted:

My understanding was that the opinion literally refers to trans women as "men that self-identify as women". If it's in the opinion, doesn't that set a precedent in Michigan in terms of the legal definition of "trans woman"

it says assigned males that self identify as women, and then generally calls them assigned males throughout and once instance of "assigned biologically male." i linked the document on the other page if you want to read it.

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Oct 13, 2005

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spankmeister posted:

Coconuts are for bras

archer danger island clearly demonstrates the coconut’s prowess as an athletic supporter.

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Silver Alicorn posted:

my parents named me after an airport

im also named yyz but was named after the rush song instead.

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Janitor Prime posted:

Hey guys I'm a bit devastated right now. The subject came up and I told the girl I was seeing that I'm bisexual and she left me.

I was hoping someone could share some articles about accepting yourself as bi sexual, I've only read some stories about people accepting they are gay.

i have had people flip on me as well when i told them. a lot of people still have a hosed up notion that bi people do not exist and you’re secretly gay.

the good news, though, is that there are a ton of people of all genders and orientation that are accepting or prefer bisexual men.

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Oct 13, 2005

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i always point out mack beggs and that helps get through to some people. if you don’t know who mack is, he’s the guy that’s won two texas high school women’s state wrestling championships in a row because they won’t let him compete with the other boys because he was afab. that’s a case of a man beating up girls and texas just nods like it’s ok.

in utah they have a five person genital checking board for one amab woman student-athlete.

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Shifty Pony posted:

The Texas stuff is so hosed up that my therapist has told me she's going to be moving out of Texas as well.

everyone with the ability to do so should do so. it's only going to get worse. i'm gtfo of fl as soon as possible and will not be returning home to texas except occasionally to visit family and friends still stuck there.

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Oct 13, 2005

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they ignore afab men even when it causes the exact situation they fret about. for example, look at mack beggs who has spent the last two years beating up girls in the texas high school wrestling circuit because they refuse to let this young man wrestle boys.

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Oct 13, 2005

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minoxidil is amazing for crown balding. finasteride is great for receding hairlines.

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Oct 13, 2005

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if you're a cis guy it is super duper easy to hook up with another cis guy. men are, by and large, whores, and it is very easy to get laid if you're just looking to get laid. and, yeah, you can have a blank grindr profile and you'll get hit up.

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Ciaphas posted:

humanity is the whore species

yup. your parents were whores, too, when they were younger.

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Oct 13, 2005

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i’m cis as all hell but here to support my pals and the people i love irl.

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