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Orv posted:Winters Grasp. Oh what do you know, they already had one but I give so few fucks about playing that I never ran across them
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# ? May 24, 2018 00:43 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Why on earth should Trials Rewards and Raid Rewards be available to those who don't complete the activities? Being able to get a small boost from your clanmates without having to grind through the activities you aren't interested in is good game design.
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# ? May 24, 2018 02:29 |
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ponzicar posted:Being able to get a small boost from your clanmates without having to grind through the activities you aren't interested in is good game design. A small light level boost is fine, but free end game gear without having to play is scub teir. It's not worth getting upset over, but it is entirely dumb as gently caress.
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# ? May 24, 2018 03:45 |
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el B posted:A small light level boost is fine, but free end game gear without having to play is scub teir. It's not worth getting upset over, but it is entirely dumb as gently caress. Wise, and also just [nods sagely]
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# ? May 24, 2018 03:49 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Why on earth should Trials Rewards and Raid Rewards be available to those who don't complete the activities? Because Trials rewards are hardly available to anyone, especially on PC. Trials needs a whole re-think, because as it is there's no incentive for over 90% of the people who play to even try. But the current Claymore situation shows that the game design team is listening mostly to people who are good at Crucible already, but suggest that it should be easier for them to retain their dominance without trying so hard by making good guns that fall exclusively into their hands.
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# ? May 24, 2018 04:03 |
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THE REWARDS ARE THE INCENTIVE FOR PLAYING
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# ? May 24, 2018 04:13 |
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Sorry, I don't "play" games.
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# ? May 24, 2018 04:14 |
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Craptacular! posted:Because Trials rewards are hardly available to anyone, especially on PC. Trials needs a whole re-think, because as it is there's no incentive for over 90% of the people who play to even try. But the current Claymore situation shows that the game design team is listening mostly to people who are good at Crucible already, but suggest that it should be easier for them to retain their dominance without trying so hard by making good guns that fall exclusively into their hands. holy gently caress dude i was one of the biggest proponents of the trials/raid loot clan engrams but this argument loving sucks rear end see also: el B posted:THE REWARDS ARE THE INCENTIVE FOR PLAYING
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# ? May 24, 2018 04:14 |
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Craptacular! posted:Because Trials rewards are hardly available to anyone, especially on PC. Trials needs a whole re-think, because as it is there's no incentive for over 90% of the people who play to even try. But the current Claymore situation shows that the game design team is listening mostly to people who are good at Crucible already, but suggest that it should be easier for them to retain their dominance without trying so hard by making good guns that fall exclusively into their hands. Like it was cool that people who didn't play Trials got Trials guns, but unfortunately that meant that nobody plays Trials
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# ? May 24, 2018 04:16 |
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Waffle House posted:Like it was cool that people who didn't play Trials got Trials guns, but unfortunately that meant that nobody plays Trials Nobody played Trials either way, having access to them without slamming your face in the door of hypersperg Destiny PvPers was neat. Similarly the numbers for raid completion/participation probably aren't a great deal higher than they were in D1, since guided games are a trash fire. Somewhere in the middle like a minimum attempt requirement to garner Trials/Raid gear from those emblems, like a boss done once a week or a single Trials card completed seems like a decent in between.
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# ? May 24, 2018 04:45 |
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PC Trials loving sucks because you have to win 7 games in a row without ramming into one of the sweaty groups getting their own flawless/doing paid carries/account recoveries OR you just cheese it with VPN which defeats the whole purpose of PvP rewards. Comp is at least in a better place because your games are pretty decently matched now that people have had time to sort out into their respective MMR brackets and groups get artificially inflated MMR.
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# ? May 24, 2018 05:12 |
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Are there any activities in either Destiny that anyone in this thread would do if they didn't drop loot?
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# ? May 24, 2018 05:36 |
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ItBreathes posted:Are there any activities in either Destiny that anyone in this thread would do if they didn't drop loot? I did D1 PvP without any expectation (most of the time) of loot or progression. That's the only example, but it is a notable one.
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# ? May 24, 2018 05:48 |
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I play D2 crucible for fun because my brain is broken
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# ? May 24, 2018 05:53 |
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I ran a ton of hc strikes with my buds just because they were super fun when we were all a bit under leveled
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# ? May 24, 2018 06:57 |
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Love that you can't do Iron Banner without beating the campaign. Frustration is lurking in every tiny corner of this game.
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# ? May 24, 2018 07:20 |
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Legs Benedict posted:holy gently caress dude i was one of the biggest proponents of the trials/raid loot clan engrams but this argument loving sucks rear end What didn't make sense? What I said is that Trials needs a re-think. Whether that includes ranking, reducing the emphasis on flawless, etc. I didn't say people should be able to get stuff without playing. I said the rules for play need to be changed.
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# ? May 24, 2018 07:28 |
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kater posted:Love that you can't do Iron Banner without beating the campaign. Frustration is lurking in every tiny corner of this game. ah yes, the frustration of beating an insanely short FPS campaign so that you can access the social space where everything is
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# ? May 24, 2018 09:21 |
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Eej posted:I play D2 crucible for fun because my brain is broken
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# ? May 24, 2018 09:36 |
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kater posted:Love that you can't do Iron Banner without beating the campaign. Frustration is lurking in every tiny corner of this game. I can't do endgame stuff before I reach the endgame 🤔
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# ? May 24, 2018 09:59 |
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Legs Benedict posted:ah yes, the frustration of beating an insanely short FPS campaign so that you can access the social space where everything is Short but boring. Also wasn't required to D1, so you could level a second or third character up in the crucible and just never bother with it.
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# ? May 24, 2018 11:11 |
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ItBreathes posted:Are there any activities in either Destiny that anyone in this thread would do if they didn't drop loot? Not a single thing.
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# ? May 24, 2018 11:25 |
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Sometimes I almost think you guys aren't actually having fun playing this game
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# ? May 24, 2018 11:44 |
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Oh, word?
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# ? May 24, 2018 12:06 |
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ItBreathes posted:Short but boring. Also wasn't required to D1, so you could level a second or third character up in the crucible and just never bother with it. Yeah I wish they would allow this. Doing the vanilla, Osiris, and warmind campaigns a second and third time each was horrible Zedsdeadbaby posted:I can't do endgame stuff before I reach the endgame 🤔 It's just the repetition that kills me. I'll play all your dumbass campaigns and enjoy it, but fuckkkk please don't force me to do it on all 3 characters. Warmind at least gave out snazzy exotics for each completion, but the vanilla and Osiris campaigns were an unrewarding slog
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# ? May 24, 2018 17:19 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Yeah I wish they would allow this. Doing the vanilla, Osiris, and warmind campaigns a second and third time each was horrible If Bungie were smart, they would have given you one of those booster tokens from D1 upon completion of the campaign that you could use on your alts that gave you max level and gave you some baseline purple 200 pl gear.
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# ? May 24, 2018 17:22 |
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Trials is still a complete disaster even on console. Since it's STILL peer 2 peer networking instead of dedicated servers, it's very very easy to network manipulate. Most of your paid trials carry twitch streamers are DDosing one or more players on the opposing team in a manner that makes it look like random connection issues rather than a targeted attack. I think Bungie has gotten a little better at detecting that kind of stuff, but it still requires tracking a lot of data from the offender to discern between random lovely connection issues vs. probable targeted attack and it's easy to circumvent even that by just jumping between PSN/Xbox accounts every week. It's really funny watching some of these dudes with 1000+ viewers commenting about how good they are because the other team "just quit out" at the sight of them. This game needs dedicated servers really bad just like every other modern multiplayer game has had standard for the past 7+ years. Even Call of Duty has dedicated multiplayer servers/matchmaking which only falls back to p2p if the servers are down or whatever. Avalanche fucked around with this message at 17:51 on May 24, 2018 |
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Avalanche posted:Trials is still a complete disaster even on console. Would dedicated servers actually prevent that? Seems like people with the right tools for this poo poo could still ping your IP and DDOS you and it wouldn't matter whether you were connecting p2p or dedicated.
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# ? May 24, 2018 18:01 |
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DrNutt posted:Would dedicated servers actually prevent that? Seems like people with the right tools for this poo poo could still ping your IP and DDOS you and it wouldn't matter whether you were connecting p2p or dedicated. Uh wouldn't they have to be able to find it through the server first?
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# ? May 24, 2018 18:04 |
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DDoSing through a dedicated server is uh, much harder since you'd have to basically hack into Bungie's servers to find the IP of your opponents which would be a federal crime.
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# ? May 24, 2018 18:04 |
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I paid a guy 20 bucks and he used VPN scumming to ensure we only faced his clan members in trials 7 games in a row A healthy game
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# ? May 24, 2018 18:05 |
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Uh wouldn't they have to be able to find it through the server first? Eej posted:DDoSing through a dedicated server is uh, much harder since you'd have to basically hack into Bungie's servers to find the IP of your opponents which would be a federal crime. Cool, that's why I asked, I did not now. Thanks. e: Give us dedicated servers Bungie.
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# ? May 24, 2018 18:11 |
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Fathis Munk posted:Sometimes I almost think you guys aren't actually having fun playing this game this game sucks rear end my dude!
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# ? May 24, 2018 19:17 |
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It owns that you have people posting how extremely mad they are at this poo poo game and then casually drop that they spent $20 for a trials carry
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# ? May 24, 2018 19:36 |
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The gold economy here is broken, if you pay www DOT pvp ZOWNAGE DOT com ///// 1 ,7 million g0ld per $$$$ you really bypass a lot of the incentive systems. Why doesnt the company fix gold farming?
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# ? May 24, 2018 19:39 |
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lol paying for carries
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# ? May 24, 2018 19:40 |
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Control Volume posted:It owns that you have people posting how extremely mad they are at this poo poo game and then casually drop that they spent $20 for a trials carry I'm the latter but not the former Waffle House posted:lol paying for carries Buddy if I can pay somebody to do a better job than me, I'm gonna do it why you think i haven't boned my wife in a year
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# ? May 24, 2018 19:45 |
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I feel like paying for a Trials carry is slightly more shameful than soliciting a prostitute.
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# ? May 24, 2018 19:49 |
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Being shamed is how I get off so you just saved me another $20 boy
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# ? May 24, 2018 19:51 |
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Bumgie should cut out the middle man and add a silver requirement to guided games.
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