DaveKap posted:

So with the patch changing how six-shooter and moebius quiver work, are these 2 "avoid at all cost" skills now worth learning or is the "avoid avoid avoid" meta still intact?

Norns posted:

I wonder if Masterwork orb generation will have any effect on PVP at all

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Yo is there somewhere I can read like a solid summary of all thte lore and what the hell is actually going on?

Wheeee posted:

Blink is so poo poo

Bust Rodd posted:

I know that crafting is a sticking point that has permeated too many games, but a multiplayer game like this with a healthy PLAYER economy Destiny 2 has good use for crafting. It could both boost player interaction and make the Tower/Farm useful.

What if players could pick a trade: Gunsmithing, Engineering, Chemistry

Gunsmithing allows players to make specific mods for their weapons, tune their masterworks to either PvP/PvE, or creat weird perks like “this gun is both arc & solar damage” or “this gun heals your teammate if you shoot them”

Engineering would allow players to build or mod their Sparrow/Ghost/Armor Stats as well as modifying your ship with some kind of buff, like an orbital weapons air strike attack or a from orbit satellite allowing you to find specific types of mobs/resources. This would also allow you to engineer a stat point or two to your cape/mark/focus.

Chemistry would allow players to craft a variety of PvE/PvP buffs that function like medallions, except they could do way more, like boost sprint speed, or a potion that improves health regen for each teammate within 10 feet who also has that buff, or you explode in Arc energy when you die like the Vex.

The game already has a dozen worthless materials. What if Alkane, Phasedust, Dusklight, Simulation Seeds, etc had value? What if grinding for gun telemetry was worth it in any appreciable way?

By giving players trade-skills you encourage player economy and interaction, both of which improve the longevity of your game. It also further diversifies the game because instead of all 9 sub classes playing identically, a Solar Hunter with chemistry buffs moving and supering faster would then be different from a solar Hunter who had rare personal mods or whatever. These changes when tuned can make the player behind the wheel feel very cool and smart for tuning their load out, but don’t feel mechanically different to play against, which means it’s not as challenging to balance for PvP.

I’m just saying that all those resources are in the game, the skeleton for a player trade/crafting system is here and I earnestly believe it would create a meaningful and exciting end-game that fosters more player interaction and less hiding in your discord waiting for something to happen.

While I’m drawing up a magic pony wishlist:

Sparrow Racing League at the Farm

A PvE horde mode event in the Dark Forest with the shard, your fire team queues up and sees how long it can last until eventually the game is just shutting out yellow bar super Minotaurs and legionnaires

Create planetary tile sets for Infinite Forest and allow me to run Infinite Forest Rifts

Giant World Raid Bosses (A sea dragon on titan, a Vex Milk swamp thing on IO, a rogue AI swarm on Nessus, etc.)

Waffle House posted:

* Complain to the Washington AG that Bungie doesn't let everyone do whatever. This gets SRL pulled.

the good fax machine posted:

Obv

Is there even another way of obtaining ships?

Waffle House posted:

Hmm, weird. These two identical shader stacks haven't stacked.





Okay, well maybe if I juggle it into my vault and out agai-

Elysiume posted:

Torrent in nightfalls too. I think mayhem and torrent are both too much, but going from either back to the base game is agonizing. Somewhere in the middle would be nice.

Bust Rodd posted:

I keep adding myself to that discord and then sometimes I log in and it’s gone and I have to rejoin it, what is that about?

Legs Benedict posted:

wish i could play the same warframe as y’all because it is just the most bland, boring poo poo in the world to me

Nuebot posted:

Actually it's lame and bad. Unlike Destiny 2, which has no content and is very unrewarding, Warframe has a ton of content that's still unrewarding and uninteresting. They also actively discourage you from trying to actually play the game. Really it's just more of the same. And the same is wet farts.

Craptacular! posted:

All those guys are gone. Replaced with dudes like Luke Smith, who was a games writer/podcaster/Halo Fanboy for 1UP.com back when Bungie was the guys you liked.

Craptacular! posted:

The only problem with Destiny 2

Craptacular! posted:

I mean, there's a lot of stuff in there, but most of it is "useless" because you get the best stuff often before you've even reached level cap. You never really get to spend any time with anything suboptimal, and optimal became the new standard.

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only problem

Nuebot posted:

It's a weird part of marketing these days I'll never get. Everyone knows streamers will hop right on to the new hotness the second it comes out. But developers continually waste a lot of money trying to appease them with free poo poo and shout-outs or whatever instead of worrying about making sure their dedicated fanbase is satisfied. Destiny 2's streaming numbers have never been spectacular because it's a boring game to watch - and the largest reason for that was because the guys in charge of PVP wanted to make a game that people could easily watch and keep track of on stream. Not one that was fun or interesting to play.

Bust Rodd posted:

I'm someone who plays Overwatch everyday, just loving mute people who say racist poo poo and move on with your life.

Bust Rodd posted:

Here’s a sidebar: has anyone ever met a woman in this game? My Trials playgroup was almost all EU and we had one women from Denmark who played, mostly PvE, but since launch I haven’t played with a single American female.

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

BofA Deez nuts LMAO

A 50S RAYGUN posted:

also it is just me or is that guy using a Jade rabbit and an acrius

Legs Benedict posted:

why would you want to shoot less in the shootmans game

Bust Rodd posted:

In general you are shooting people through all of Castellum, the first third of gauntlet x3, and half of dogs before Callus, which is all shootmans, so like, it’s not even that bad.

Underbelly also has mans to shoot.

AAB posted:

god I wish this was true

Craptacular! posted:

That one moon map in vanilla even had Pikes and Turrets you could drive in crucible, because they wanted to be Unlicensed Halo so bad. It's unfortunate they listened to the streamers who are good at the game and wanted skill-based ground combat, and ignored the people who aren't good and want to run over that streamer with a nearly invincible tank; because that second game would have been much more fun.

Craptacular! posted:

I can't claim to know what good people do because I'm not good, but it's not bullshitty enough. I have my limits of bullshit, I quit D1 when it became evident that nothing I could do in casual solo queue could compete with Doctrine, and I refused to participate in Trials to fight fire with fire. But they've continued to emphasize one shot kills with all this power ammo regardless. I'd rather just goof off and have fun with lots of grenades and lots of supers and running people over.

Republicans posted:

I haven't been keeping up, is the dream of using shotguns as a primary weapon real or are the ammo pools too meager for that?