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Best producer/showrunner?
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Verity Lambert 30 15.31%
Barry Letts 7 3.57%
Phillip Hinchcliffe 32 16.33%
John Nathan-Turner 6 3.06%
Russell T Davies 33 16.84%
Steven Moffat 50 25.51%
Chris Chibnall (I am from the future) 38 19.39%
Total: 196 votes
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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Bicyclops posted:

Okay, I got frustrated enough at a Mario level that I went back to watching Doctor Who, and what is with the video quality on Arc of Infinity? Did someone sneeze on the film?

That's how all 80s porn was shot

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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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howe_sam posted:

In the moment I thought Cyberbrig was fine, but considering my own private freakout over the thought of Amy and Rory being turned into Cybermen I get why people didn't like it.

But... it's not that we're very attached to the character and are sad because he's been cybered, it's that the reason that the character is dead in-universe is that Nicholas Courtney died.

Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill are, time of writing, very much alive.

It's not quite the same level of wtf but this generates the same reaction in me as the "I, a history student, never understood the holocaust was sad until someone photoshopped a MLP character in" picture

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Ian Levine's talent

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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More pictures of Yoshi are required

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Bicyclops posted:

the Furst Doctor.

Ugh, American dream castings are so tedious!!!

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Doctor Zero posted:

(hmm. This McGann A.V. is showing it’s age. Maybe I’ll make a new one. )

Just make earnest posts about bikes, that seems to work

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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If you could ban people from having opinions like you can ban them from forums and groups then Whittaker would be the greatest honeypot of recent times

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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...! posted:

The thing that really bothered me about this special and last year's special is that they felt like they had far less to do with Christmas than previous specials. The whole Christmas in the trenches thing and everything to do with that soldier just seemed kinda tacked on. Watch the Christmas specials from a few years ago and you'll see a noticeable difference.

It varies. It's not like the most successful Christmas specials - the RTD ones - had much to do with Christmas.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Do I have to post the Moffat quotes again

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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docbeard posted:

Nonsense, if World War I were that bad, they wouldn't have set lighthearted comedy series Blackadder Goes Forth during...

watches last episode

...never mind

I'll have you know most soldiers in WW1 had a jolly old time.

Source: the education secretary, 3 years ago

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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This is only acceptable if he asked if it was ok to... kiss... peter every few minutes

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Rhyno posted:

Is that with or without the hair?

Score draw there I think

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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docbeard posted:

I don't think the Twentieth* Doctor's last monologue had anything to do with that though.
___
*1) William Hartnell/Richard Hurndall/David Bradley
2) Patrick Troughton/Frazier Hines
3) Jon Pertwee and various other Pertwees
3a) David Warner
4) Tom Baker
5) Peter Davison
6) Colin Baker
7) Sylvester McCoy
8) Paul McGann
9C) Rowan Atkinson
10C) Richard E. Grant
11C) Jim Broadbent
12C) Hugh Grant
13C) Joanna Lumley
8W) John Hurt
9) Christopher Eccleston
10) David Tennant
10a) David Tennant
11) Matt Smith
12) Peter Capaldi
13) Jodie Whittaker

You've missed out at least 11 I can think of

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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docbeard posted:

Oh, yeah, I thought of more after I wrote it. (Peter Cushing for one, all the ones from the other Unbounds that I haven't listened to, probably some others.)

The big ones you missed out on were the Valeyard (two actors) and the eight Morbius doctors (the other one I was thinking of was Adrian Gibbs, who played The Watcher)

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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BioEnchanted posted:

Don't you have a kiss for Mommy? :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ghvVizwXc

?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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HD DAD posted:

Like, every time someone in Series 9 mentioned the word “hybrid”, they might as well have turned to the camera with a “dun dun dun!” musical cue.

That was necessary though, because how could he have the twist that "the hybrid" isn't actually important if people don't understand that "the hybrid" is important?

The problem there was that noone gave a poo poo

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The Unfetered One posted:

I remember the days when we all loved Moffat

What, 2007?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Rhyno posted:

Remember when he had an affectionate nickname? Grand Moff something?

That was entirely down to Trin

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Edward Mass posted:

I’m pretty sure 2011 was the last time he was universally acclaimed on SA.

Not by me

[edit]

I've liked 2, maybe 3 episodes he's penned since Blink

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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docbeard posted:

look around furtively, and tenses, ready to dive for cover

(whispering) i still like moffat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvK6KsLkPUs

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Time to repost my Doctor Who claim to fame, which is that an ex-girlfriend then subsequently went out with the director of LKH

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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BSam posted:

Does no one remember day of the loving doctor?

I do and I didn't like it

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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2house2fly posted:

I just popped on Day Of The Doctor (I'm doing Waters Of Mars-Day-End Of Time-Eleventh Hour all in a row, for a laugh) and lmao at the Doctor trying to look smart at the beginning, reading a book called ADVANCED QUANTUM MECHANICS

Physics/maths textbooks called "Advanced [whatever]" are usually mid-tier undergrad; the ones you really have to look out for are the ones titled "An Introduction to [whatever]", those are the hard ones

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

And then there's Mathematics Made Difficult, which is one of my favourite books of all time.

I recommend this to everyone who is a mathematician

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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And a happy new year to all of you at home

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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marktheando posted:

Yeah a ton of viewers hated the Doctor being old and grumpy and stopped watching.

I'm not convinced by this, because Capaldi's first series had strong ratings throughout

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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marktheando posted:

His first ep got good ratings as new Doctors always do, but declined a fair bit by the 2017 series.

His first series got an average that was pretty much the same as all of Smith's series (7.26m, vs 7.5m or so), and had a more consistent audience throughout. It declined by about a million viewers year on year.

To assume from this that it must be because Capaldi was old is a bit of a reach.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Astroman posted:

How can a lease renewal really be that insurmountable? :confused: Surely Cardiff benefitted from having tourists come to see it more than whatever else they want to use the building for. Unless it's just a case of City Council people flaunting their god-like powers and getting off on it.

Cardiff only had the lease for five years, all of which they subleased to the BBC. The land is owned by a real estate company called Igloo.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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It's worth going back to the Hartnell and Troughton intros from time to time just to watch quite how weird they are

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxYtLV86W4

If that intro doesn't say "you're gonna see some odd stuff tonight" I don't know what does

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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marktheando posted:

Kate Stewart and Osgood are both poo poo. Bring back Brigadier Bambera.

Bring back Lee Evans Benton

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Timby posted:

In fairness, the "Time War" was a pretty ropey concept in the first place, almost as half-baked as the "Temporal Cold War" in Star Trek Enterprise.

The two are completely incomparable; the Time War was, and always was, largely a method to deliberately step away from existing continuity while keeping the bits that they liked and could be drip fed to the audience. I'd say it's probably RTD's best idea.

The Temporal Cold War was an underwhelming arc.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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remusclaw posted:

For a couple of seasons it honestly looked like the Doctor only succeeded in killing his own people.

For a nearly a decade - The End of Time is pre-Time War, Gallifrey only came back in the 50th.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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DoctorWhat posted:

Moffat only showed the end of the war, when - explicitly! - all the nightmare weapons the Time Lords made had been used up and the war had degraded, Skaro-like, into infantry and trenches. He didn't "make it pedestrian" and this willfull choice to ignore the actual text frustrates me even four years later.

"It used to be really exciting but now it's just a conventional war" is dull and pedestrian.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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"Oh but the text says it makes sense for it be dull and pedestrian" is entirely irrelevant

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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MisterBibs posted:

How so? The text tells you precisely that everything fanciable (and more importantly, unfilmable)*). We're aware of things like the Skaro Degradations, the Horde of Travesties, the Nightmare Child, the Could-Have-Been-King with his army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres are all dead and gone. The text tells, the viewer accepts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAMHpiVDEXY

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Stabbatical posted:

Having not watched the whole of the old series, was it ever shown that there were non-Time Lord Gallifreyans before Moffat's run?

In this story!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixY3p4SpSjg

Also implied in The Deadly Assassin, but mostly it's an idea expounded in New Adventures et al.

The best portrayal of the Time Lords was, and always will be, their very first one though.

Rirse posted:

After watching only handful of random Matt and Peter episodes and then Twice Upon a Time, I decided to just go back to the start of the revival and go from there. Loving it and just reached Christmas Invasion...but what was the point of the evil Santa bots at the start? They are not related to the Sycorax and disappear as soon that Christmas tree gets blew up.

It's CHRISTMAS, duh

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Forktoss posted:

What better way to celebrate the end of the Moffat era than with that age-old enemy of his, the cushion

Needs more Clara_and_Sutekh.png

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Orange is just light brown

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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Jerusalem posted:

Yeah, I'd love to hear him in Big Finish but his last televised story isn't even a month old yet

Pfft, it was last year

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