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Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.


El Gallinero Gros posted:

What do you guys think RJ Barrett will end up doing? I know y'all hate Duke but it feels like Canada is sending more and more people to the NBA.

Hopefully he'll be the slightly bigger version of what Andrew Wiggins was supposed to be.

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Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

Verhy old and rocky thoughts


Plaster Town Cop

Redgrendel2001 posted:

Hopefully he'll be the slightly bigger version of what Andrew Wiggins was supposed to be.

I've watched him at one National team scrimmage? Something like that on a stream thing and I don't like to pay attention to guys before college, but the word on the street is that he's more of a smooth scoring wing than a hyper athlete freak like Wiggins

Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at Jan 2, 2018 around 20:06

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

Also? Amplitude.


I like the "Only compare players to other players who grew up in the same broad geographic location".

dphi
Jul 9, 2001


Lockback posted:

I like the "Only compare players to other players who grew up in the same broad geographic location".

He plays in a very Canadian manner

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Just noticed that as the standings are today the Celtics would pick 2nd due to the Lakers being awful, but not quite awful enough to go number one.

Who would we even pick? I think the wing positions are set, so a guard or a big man?

Sports Illustrated as them picking Luka Doncic
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/01/02/n...ton-luka-doncic

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!

Charlz Guybon posted:

Just noticed that as the standings are today the Celtics would pick 2nd due to the Lakers being awful, but not quite awful enough to go number one.

Who would we even pick? I think the wing positions are set, so a guard or a big man?

Sports Illustrated as them picking Luka Doncic
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/01/02/n...ton-luka-doncic

If I have to watch Luka next to Tatum in green for the next 20 years I may end it

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011


Charlz Guybon posted:

Just noticed that as the standings are today the Celtics would pick 2nd due to the Lakers being awful, but not quite awful enough to go number one.

Who would we even pick? I think the wing positions are set, so a guard or a big man?

Sports Illustrated as them picking Luka Doncic
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/01/02/n...ton-luka-doncic

Well you're playing Aron Baynes 20 minutes a game so thats a good place to start.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009




If Cs get the lakers pick I'd def go Center.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Paul Zuvella posted:

Well you're playing Aron Baynes 20 minutes a game so thats a good place to start.

Oh now you've done it. All of Australia will be after you now

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

Dwyane Wade is still taking his player option for $23.8 million next season, according to sources. The Jimmy Butler trade affects nothing


Delladova and Ben Simmons?

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Dexo posted:

Delladova and Ben Simmons?

https://streamable.com/ojqn5

Khagan
Aug 8, 2012

Words cannot describe just how terrible Vietnamese are.

euphronius posted:

If Cs get the lakers pick I'd def go Center.

I figured they go after Cousins if that were the case.

Though if they fall below #2 I'd prefer Bamba over Bagley, the latter is 6'10.5 with a 7'0 wingspan though he makes up for it elsewhere.

Otherwise take Porter or trade down for Jaren Jackson Jr.

Khagan fucked around with this message at Jan 3, 2018 around 17:24

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009




They can't fit Cousins in as a FA right.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

euphronius posted:

They can't fit Cousins in as a FA right.

Not without trading off Al, most likely

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

Verhy old and rocky thoughts


Plaster Town Cop

Marvin Bagley Jr is a perimeter oriented Mikki Moore

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011



uuuuuuuuuuuuuuummm

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova


I agree that a big man seems like the most obvious fit for Boston, but Brad Stevens helming an offense that runs out Kyrie, Doncic, Tatum and Hayward sounds extremely cool to me

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011


xbilkis posted:

I agree that a big man seems like the most obvious fit for Boston, but Brad Stevens helming an offense that runs out Kyrie, Doncic, Tatum and Hayward sounds extremely cool to me

Who the gently caress is going to rebound

EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

never ever ever ever ever draft for position. do not do it

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova


Paul Zuvella posted:

Who the gently caress is going to rebound

If the Celtics can have a sick offense that's fun to watch and a fatal flaw that prevents them from winning a championship, that seems like the best of both worlds baby

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

We just out here tipping more than $13


Paul Zuvella posted:

Who the gently caress is going to rebound

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011



Be still my beating heart <3

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011


EvanTH posted:

never ever ever ever ever draft for position. do not do it

Yeah if only there were top tier PF/Cs in this draft

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

Also? Amplitude.


EvanTH posted:

never ever ever ever ever draft for position. do not do it

I feel like if you're a 50-60 win team a lot of these rules change. Late first round teams usually do better drafting for position because its really easy to get frozen out of a good lineup if you're a rookie. I'm not sure what Boston does if they have a top-5 pick, but I think the math works different than the typical awful team up there.

I would normally say Boston should definitely trade the pick, but I thought that last year and they got Tatum who is amazing for them so I have no idea.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

You're tense, I'm calm. You apply excessive force, I
*snap*
OHHHH HECKUMS


Lockback posted:

I would normally say Boston should definitely trade the pick, but I thought that last year and they got Tatum who is amazing for them so I have no idea.

To be fair, they got Tatum after trading the pick. They might have taken him first overall anyways, but they got a team to give them stuff and still draft who they actually wanted.

Spacebump
Dec 23, 2003

Nowitzness

How deep is this draft supposed to be? Are the Mavs screwed if they end up with the 6-8th pick?

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

Also? Amplitude.


IcePhoenix posted:

To be fair, they got Tatum after trading the pick. They might have taken him first overall anyways, but they got a team to give them stuff and still draft who they actually wanted.

True, but by trade the pick I meant trade out of the lottery/draft and get a vet. Which is what I would do if I were Boston this year, but I'm probably wrong again.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Status: Single canine
Income: Kibble
Henry Offenses:
1. Eats own feces
2. Is actually named Henry
3. Illiterate


Grimey Drawer

Spacebump posted:

How deep is this draft supposed to be? Are the Mavs screwed if they end up with the 6-8th pick?

Hard to say, the top looks really good, but its still way too early to get a real sense of the depth

Jota
May 6, 2003

uga-booga uga-booga


January 18, 2018 is the 10 year anniversary of Reggie Evans hitting a 3-point shot

https://streamable.com/rav31

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005


Was Reggie Evans the grabber or grab-ee of someones nuts in the middle of an nba game? I cant remember

Edit: Grabber...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D69Q7TrZT0I

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Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

Following up a year of Sean Miller with Brad Stevens is a good way to make sure Ayton's burgeoning defensive awareness continues to grow. And he's a monster on the boards, and looks at least hopeful to develop an outside shot. The Celtics will draft like Robert Williams III and he'lll somehow be an amazing shooter despite being a mediocre to bad college shooter.

Spacebump posted:

How deep is this draft supposed to be? Are the Mavs screwed if they end up with the 6-8th pick?

One of the reason I don't even start to scout until January is that the draft rankings change so wildly between November and January, and even then they aren't really STABLE at any point until the college season is over.

Which makes it hard to project depth unfortunately.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009




I don't think Boston should get a veteran high usage C at all. A rookie scale high athletic monster is perfect for them.

I think the timing works out that Horfords contract ends when they'd need to extend the Lakers pick.

JesusSinfulHands
Oct 24, 2007
Sartre and Russell are my heroes

Mo Bamba seems like a good fit then. Difficulty of course is if you're #2 or #3 pick and Ayton/Bagley/Doncic/Porter are seen as higher upside players.

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

We just out here tipping more than $13


LMFAO

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010



Starting to approach Pistol Pete territory.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

Verhy old and rocky thoughts


Plaster Town Cop

xbilkis posted:

I agree that a big man seems like the most obvious fit for Boston, but Brad Stevens helming an offense that runs out Kyrie, Doncic, Tatum and Hayward sounds extremely cool to me
Apologies for repeating myself, but Doncic is almost a 6'8 Kyrie. He can score from every level of the court, has crazy stuff at the rim, passes when absolutely necessary, and probably can't defend anyone.

Bagley is probably a good fit for Boston, he can focus on help and weakside stuff and learn how to play defense at 5. He has a ton to learn, but they're so good at putting players in a position to succeed. He could look terrible on another team

EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Lockback posted:

I feel like if you're a 50-60 win team a lot of these rules change. Late first round teams usually do better drafting for position because its really easy to get frozen out of a good lineup if you're a rookie. I'm not sure what Boston does if they have a top-5 pick, but I think the math works different than the typical awful team up there.

I would normally say Boston should definitely trade the pick, but I thought that last year and they got Tatum who is amazing for them so I have no idea.

I guess I'm being a bit overly-absolute about it, but it really does seem like the teams that draft for position come to regret it almost all the time. If you're comparing draftee value then positional needs should be towards the bottom of the list. Every story of a team missing a star player in the draft seems to be a story of some other team drafting for position instead of potential.

The draft is more about who's going to be good in three years or so, not who's good next year, so by the time your drafted player's ready to compete your positional needs may have changed completely

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


EvanTH posted:

I guess I'm being a bit overly-absolute about it, but it really does seem like the teams that draft for position come to regret it almost all the time. If you're comparing draftee value then positional needs should be towards the bottom of the list. Every story of a team missing a star player in the draft seems to be a story of some other team drafting for position instead of potential.

The draft is more about who's going to be good in three years or so, not who's good next year, so by the time your drafted player's ready to compete your positional needs may have changed completely

I largely agree with you but man alive Atlanta should have drafted Chris Paul instead of Marvin Williams

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011



Can he play point in the NBA? He's so much fun to watch

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ButtWolf
Dec 30, 2004

Hey, you want a toothpick?


I think you draft for position when there is like 5 guys with roughly the same upside. I feel like someone is gonna want to trade up for Young bc hype, so trade that pick for like #8 and a future 1st, never run out of assets Danny. I rely like Bamba.

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