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rovert
Jun 10, 2013

The greatest Wrestling Twitter Champion of all time


Being The Elite (peak Dave) and CWF Mid Atlantic are eligible for Best TV Show.

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TTBF
Sep 14, 2005

Staying healthy due to sheer coincidence.

I can't believe Dave excluded Daryl Takahashi.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

TTBF posted:

I can't believe Dave excluded Daryl Takahashi.

Where did he say this? Is Daryl not eligible?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

BROTHER I WANT YOU TO JOIN THE DSA AND SUBSCRIBE TO THE AWARD WINNING WWE NETWORK FOR ONLY $9.99 A MONTH


rovert posted:

Being The Elite (peak Dave) and CWF Mid Atlantic are eligible for Best TV Show.
Oh god I would accept NJPW on AXS winning over NXT if that was the case of preventing BTE winning it all

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008
Good luck with your depression!


Who the gently caress is Bone Soldier?

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005

Staying healthy due to sheer coincidence.

Benne posted:

Where did he say this? Is Daryl not eligible?

I think he's eligible for best non-wrestler.

For worst gimmick does 'William Patrick Corgan' count?

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

Who the gently caress is Bone Soldier?

The former Captain New Japan, a comedy jobber who got repackaged as a "serious" character and joined Bullet Club. He bombed so hard in the role it basically got him fired from NJPW.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


Prokhor Zakharov posted:

Who the gently caress is Bone Soldier?

Val Venis' name in TNA.

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless


Feels Villeneuve posted:

The ADR stuff is more "Most disgusting promotional act" than Worst Gimmick imo

ADR did little more than inflict himself on promotions that absolutely deserved him, promotion wise.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca


Did you guys figure out how I'm supposed to enter Nueva Generacion Dinamita? Do I have to put (Sanson and Cuatrero) in like that?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


My final appeal for your Rookie of the Year votes. Please watch and with the sound on.

https://twitter.com/mongo_ebooks/st...531899323232256

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


If anyone wants to post ballots here's my Observer ballot they are due tonight vote Micro Man

CATEGORY A" AWARDS. PICK A FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD PLACE FINISHER IN EACH CATEGORY. POINTS WILL BE AWARDED ON A 5-3-2 BASIS. THE WINNER OF THE AWARD IS DETERMINED BY TOTAL POINTS.



1. LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD -

Kazuchika Okada

Hiroshi Tanahashi

Caristico

2. MMA MOST VALUABLE FIGHTER:

Jon Jones

Georges St. Pierre

Cyborg

3. MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER:

Kazuchika Okada

Kushida

Caristico

4. MOST OUTSTANDING FIGHTER:

Demetrious Johnson

Rose Namajunas

Jon Jones


5. TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR -

Nuevo Generacion Dinamita

Sky Team

Young Bucks

6. BEST ON INTERVIEWS -

Jon Jones

El Perico Zacarias

Rush


7. PROMOTION OF THE YEAR -

CMLL

NJPW

Game Changer Wrestling

8. BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW -

CMLL Arena Puebla Lunes

CMLL Super Viernes Arena Mexico

9. PRO WRESTLING MATCH OF THE YEAR -

NJPW Okada vs Omega (Dominion)

CMLL Grand Prix 9/1/17

NJPW Okada vs Shibata (Sakura Genesis)

10. MMA MATCH OF THE YEAR -

Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier

Eddie Alvarez vs. Justin Gaethje

Yancy Medeiros vs. Alex Oliveira




"CATEGORY B" AWARDS. PICK ONE IN EACH CATEGORY. WINNER CHOSEN ON THE BASIS OF FIRST PLACE VOTES.



1. BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW -

Georges St Pierre

2. FEUD OF THE YEAR -

Sam Adonis vs Mexico

3. MOST IMPROVED -

Juice Robinson

4. MOST CHARISMATIC -

Rush

5. BRYAN DANIELSON BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER AWARD -

Kushida

6. BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL BEST BRAWLER AWARD -

LA Park

7. BEST FLYING WRESTLER -

Dragon Lee

8. MOST OVERRATED -

Diamante Azul

9. MOST UNDERRATED -

Police Man

10. ROOKIE OF THE YEAR -

Micro Man

11. BEST NON-WRESTLER PERFORMER -

Kemonito

12. BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER -

Shimpei Nogami.

13. WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER -

Josh Barnett

24. BEST MAJOR SHOW -

Wrestle Kingdom

25. WORST MAJOR SHOW OF THE YEAR -

AAA Triplemania

26. BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER -

La Mistica

27. MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC -

WWE's Lionizing The Ultimate Warrior

28. WORST TELEVISION SHOW -

AAA

29. WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR -

Aerial Assault from CZW Once in a Lifetime

30. WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR -

Diamante Azul vs Pierroth

31. WORST PROMOTION -

AAA

32. BEST BOOKER -

Gedo

33. PROMOTER OF THE YEAR -

Paco Alonso

34. BEST GIMMICK -

Micro Man

35. WORST GIMMICK -

Diamante Azul

36. BEST WRESTLING BOOK - Crazy Like a Fox

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca


2017 Wrestling Observer Awards Ballot
"CATEGORY A" AWARDS
1. LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD
1. Rush
2. Tetsuya Naito
3. Dr. Wagner Jr.

2. MMA MOST VALUABLE FIGHTER
1. Conor McGregor
2. Georges St-Pierre
3. Ronda Rousey

3. MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER
1. Soberano Jr.
2. Dragon Lee
3. Rey Fenix

4. MOST OUTSTANDING FIGHTER
1. Demetrious Johnson
2. Rose Namajunas
3. Ovince St. Preux

5. TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR
1. Nueva Generacion Dinamita
2. Penta 0M and Rey Fenix
3. Ricochet and Ryusuke Taguchi

6. BEST ON INTERVIEWS
1. Hiromu Takahashi
2. Sam Adonis
3. L.A. Park

7. PROMOTION OF THE YEAR
1. UFC
2. CMLL
3. New Japan Pro Wrestling

8. BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW
1. CMLL Viernes Espectaculares (Friday)
2. CMLL Lunes Familiar (Monday)
3. CMLL Informa

9. PRO WRESTLING MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. LA Park vs. Rush - 3/11 - Mexico City - Baracal Entertainment
2. Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenny Omega - 1/4 - Tokyo - New Japan Pro Wrestling
3. Sky Man vs. Saturno - 3/3 - Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl - Cara Lucha

10. MMA MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. Yancy Medeiros vs. Alex Oliviera - 12/2 - Detroit - UFC 218
2. Darren Elkins vs. Mirsad Bektic - 3/4 - Las Vegas - UFC 209
3. Michael Johnson vs. Justin Gaethje - 7/7 - Las Vegas - TUF 25 Finale

"CATEGORY B" AWARDS
1. BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW - Conor McGregor
2. FEUD OF THE YEAR - LA Park vs. Rush
3. MOST IMPROVED - Niebla Roja
4. MOST CHARISMATIC - Tetsuya Naito
5. BRYAN DANIELSON BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER AWARD - Zach Sabre Jr.
6. BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL BEST BRAWLER AWARD - Black Terry
7. BEST FLYING WRESTLER - Soberano Jr.
8. MOST OVERRATED - Minoru Suzuki
9. MOST UNDERRATED - Hechicero
10. ROOKIE OF THE YEAR - Micro Man
11. BEST NON-WRESTLER PERFORMER - Kemonito
12. BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER - Julio César Rivera
13. WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER - Matt Striker
14. BEST MAJOR SHOW - MDAnniversario 2 - 5/9 - Monterrey, Mexico
15. WORST MAJOR SHOW OF THE YEAR - New Japan Destruction in Fukushima - 9/10 - Fukushima, Japan
16. BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER - Soberano Jr.’s Fosbury Flop
17. MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC - Multiple promotions repeatedly booking and promoting rapists, domestic abusers, and racists/homophobes
18. WORST TELEVISION SHOW - Being the Elite
19. WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR - Tyron Woodley vs. Stephen Thompson II, UFC 209, Las Vegas, NV
20. WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR - Suzuki-gun vs. New Japan
21. WORST PROMOTION - WWE
22. BEST BOOKER - Gedo
23. PROMOTER OF THE YEAR - Dana White
24. BEST GIMMICK - Hiromu and Daryl Takahashi
25. WORST GIMMICK - “The Progressive Liberal” Daniel Richards

SLUM KING
Nov 16, 2011



MassRafTer posted:

There's a couple Puebla openers and a few things from Triplemania but my vote would be for the Aerial Assault from CZW's Once in a Lifetime. Just an absolute hilarious trainwreck of a match with a botched finish.

I abstained for voting in the worst categories cuz I couldn’t remember the poo poo I actually hated but now I regret that cuz holy poo poo that match was awful.

I did my part and voted for Micro Man and Nick Gage and LA Park though.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


SLUM KING posted:

I abstained for voting in the worst categories cuz I couldn’t remember the poo poo I actually hated but now I regret that cuz holy poo poo that match was awful.

I did my part and voted for Micro Man and Nick Gage and LA Park though.

Thank you, friend.

I ended up voting for that because I couldn't remember which match off Triplemania I hated most.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

yahallo


VOW top 50 matches of the year

1 Kazuchika Okada vs. Katsuyori Shibata 4/19 NJPW
2 Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenny Omega 1/4 NJPW
3 Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenny Omega 6/11 NJPW
4 Kenny Omega vs. Tetsuya Naito 8/13 NJPW
5 Pete Dunne vs. Tyler Bate 5/20 WWE NXT
6 Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada 8/12 NJPW
7 WALTER vs. Ilja Dragunov 3/12 wXw
8 Will Ospreay vs. KUSHIDA 6/3 NJPW
9 Michael Elgin vs. Tetsuya Naito 2/11 NJPW
10 AJ Styles vs. John Cena 1/29 WWE
11 Tetsuya Naito vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi 1/4 NJPW
12 AJ Styles vs. Brock Lesnar 11/19 WWE
13 Tetsuya Naito vs. Kota Ibushi 7/17 NJPW
14 Kazuchika Okada vs. Minoru Suzuki 8/8 NJPW
15 Tomohiro Ishii vs. Kenny Omega 7/2 NJPW
16 The Usos vs. The New Day 10/8 WWE
17 Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tetsuya Naito 8/11 NJPW
18 Hideki Suzuki vs. Yuji Okabayashi 5/5 BJW
19 Rush vs. LA Park 3/11 Bacaral
20 Killshot vs. Dante Fox 9/27 Lucha Underground
21 Brock Lesnar vs. Samoa Joe vs. Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman 8/20 WWE
22 Kazuchika Okada vs. Michael Elgin 7/22 NJPW
23 Masashi Takeda vs. Masaya Takahashi 12/17 BJW
24 Will Ospreay vs. Zach Sabre Jr. 11/10 RPW
25 Tomohiro Ishii vs. Kenny Omega 5/3 NJPW
26 Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kota Ibushi 11/5 NJPW
27 Authors of Pain vs. DIY vs. Revival 4/1 WWE NXT
28 Konosuke Takeshita vs. HARASHIMA 3/20 DDT
29 Hirooki Goto vs. Katsuyori Shibata 1/4 NJPW
30 WALTER vs. David Starr 10/28 wXw
31 Hiromu Takahashi vs. Dragon Lee 2/11 NJPW
32 Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar 4/2 WWE
33 Velveteen Dream vs. Aleister Black 11/18 WWE NXT
34 Tomohiro Ishii vs. Keith Lee 11/9 RPW
35 Chip Day vs. Trevor Lee 3/25 CWF Mid-Atlantic
36 Chuck Taylor vs. Zack Sabre Jr 7/7 PWG
37 Zack Sabre Jr vs. Michael Elgin 5/6 AAW
38 Ricochet vs. Will Ospreay 5/18 NJPW
39 Authors of Pain vs. DIY 5/20 WWE NXT
40 Mayu Iwatani vs. Io Shirai 6/21 STARDOM
41 Tetsuya Naito vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi 6/11 NJPW
42 Keith Lee vs. Donovan Dijak 9/3 PWG
43 WALTER vs. David Starr WXW 3/10 wXw
44 WrestleCon 10 Man Tag 3/31 WrestleCon
45 The New Day vs. The Usos 8/20 WWE
46 Masaaki Mochizuki vs. Susumu Yokosuka 11/3 Dragon Gate
47 KUSHIDA vs. Hiromu Takahashi 1/4 NJPW
48 SUWAMA vs. Kento Miyahara 10/9 AJPW
49 Minoru Suzuki vs. Sanshiro Takagi 6/1 DDT
50 South Pacific Power Trip vs. Ringkampf 1/29 PROGRESS

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.


the correct match won

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


Omega vs Okada 2 was better than Lesnar vs Orton (But Good)

Both were in my top 3.

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.


my favorite match of the year was New Day vs the Usos in Hell in a Cell but Okada vs Shibata was very close behind

the Hardys vs the Bucks at Supercard of Honor was also criminally underrated

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky


braun got in so i'm happy with the list

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

The greatest Wrestling Twitter Champion of all time


I've given up hope on Dave posting them.

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005

Staying healthy due to sheer coincidence.

What's the reason for dragging his feet?

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009



shot in the dark here but im guessing his method for totaling votes is archaic and inefficient so he prioritizes other work

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

The greatest Wrestling Twitter Champion of all time


And shitposting on Twitter.

Seriously there are health issues in his family and that's the reason he cited last year and when it came to other things more recently

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

The greatest Wrestling Twitter Champion of all time


Out tonight/this issue

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


MICRO loving MAN!!!!!

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

I'm glad Bray Wyatt cleaned house

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 10, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick


Nap Ghost

I like how 160 odd readers thought that building and pushing stars for foreign markets is a disgusting promotional tactic.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.

he knows...


Ultra Carp

exploded mummy posted:

I like how 160 odd readers thought that building and pushing stars for foreign markets is a disgusting promotional tactic.

Weren't they voting for the explicitly racist promo he cut on Nakamura, and not Jinder himself?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



flashy_mcflash posted:

Weren't they voting for the explicitly racist promo he cut on Nakamura, and not Jinder himself?

Those are listed separately.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

BROTHER I WANT YOU TO JOIN THE DSA AND SUBSCRIBE TO THE AWARD WINNING WWE NETWORK FOR ONLY $9.99 A MONTH


I don't know how you put Raw as the worst show when Smackdown was 10x worse in 2017

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky


achillesforever6 posted:

I don't know how you put Raw as the worst show when Smackdown was 10x worse in 2017

205 Live was also worse for the calendar year.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



Smackdown had enough pre-shakeup good will left I guess.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008

HUSS
HUSS
HUSS


I don't know how you guys don't see them deliberately pandering to a country with an super push of an awful wrestler that not only wasn't a draw in the country they were pandering to, but also ratings & ticket poison as one of the worst promotional tactics. All the shittier ones ranked higher anyway.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

KungFu Grip posted:

I don't know how you guys don't see them deliberately pandering to a country with an super push of an awful wrestler that not only wasn't a draw in the country they were pandering to, but also ratings & ticket poison as one of the worst promotional tactics. All the shittier ones ranked higher anyway.

Trying and failing to break in a new market does not qualify as "most disgusting promotional tactic"

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

yahallo


jinder

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

I'll concede that Jinder's back was the most disgusting thing of the year, and presumably for many more years to come

schweens
Jan 14, 2011

kakarot ain't got shit on me


Pushing Jinder, who is poo poo, and expecting India to fully embrace the product because of it is disgusting but I don't know if it registers with all of the lovely stuff that happened in 2017

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008

HUSS
HUSS
HUSS


Benne posted:

Trying and failing to break in a new market does not qualify as "most disgusting promotional tactic"

They've toured india before and didn't have to cancel all but one of their shows because they presented a cowardly badguy as the face of India.

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Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

I call the darkness unto me from deepest depths of Earth and sea. From ancient evils unawoken, break the one that can't be broken. To blackest night, I pledge my soul and crush my heart to burning coal. To summon forth a deathly power, to see my hated foe devoured.


I'm disappointed at how low the Sexy Star stuff was.

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