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ChaseSP posted:What about, gun that SHOOTS blood. Eh? Eh?! Infected for PSP had that. The player character's blood made zombies explode.
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Anticheese posted:I bet Aztechnology looks at stimpire.txt and sees that it absolutely needs a deskeletonisation branch. Do I want to Google this?
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But what is the Essence loss of a rusty metal skullgun?
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CommissarMega posted:Do I want to Google this? It's a timecube-style cauldron of crazy, you don't.
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Which means you do. There's no such thing as forbidden knowledge, friend.
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wiegieman posted:It's a timecube-style cauldron of crazy, you don't. Too late. 
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Well I mean there are bone lacing treatments that cover your bones with high strength polymers or titanium depending on the grade, so they've got to get the skeleton out somehow for that. It's apparently a pretty simple procedure even, considering that drat near ever backalley cyberdoc offers bonelacing as one of their basic upgrades.
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What happens when a highly disturbed individual with a shaky grip on reality and an unhealthy fixation on torture-porn decides to write about a sci-fi dystopia? Find out in "The Fourth Stimpire", one of the most creative, original, and memorable fanfics to come out of Star Citizen!
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Stroth posted:It's apparently a pretty simple procedure even, considering that drat near ever backalley cyberdoc offers bonelacing as one of their basic upgrades. I guess they could just pull a Wolverine, plug in some strategically placed IVs, pipe in liquid metal, hope your patient doesn't die screaming.
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DeathChicken posted:I guess they could just pull a Wolverine, plug in some strategically placed IVs, pipe in liquid metal, hope your patient doesn't die screaming. The three most common types of Bone Lacing available to Street Sams in the Sixth World from your friendly local neighborhood cyberdoc are Plastic, Aluminum, and Titanium. Each rank increases your Body, Armor, and punching damage and cost 0.5 Essence per level of material you're getting attached to your skeleton. I think I might remember reading in the 4th Ed Chrome Companion style book they had an option for Kevlar lacing as well, but I dunno if that showed up again in 5th Ed. I think most legal (and not so legal but still with a good rep) cyberclinics knock you out then go in and graft the stuff right to your bones, then have you dunked in a tank to heal for a couple weeks at least, but I wouldn't be surprised if the local back alley cyberdoc who can't afford all that fancy poo poo tries to do it your way. Probably won't be having many repeat customers unless they're truly desperate though. GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Aug 16, 2018 |
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GhostStalker posted:This was one of the reasons the Ares Excalibur failed so badly, plus the usual Shadowrun sabotage stuff. Guns refusing to fire via smartlink or mags exploding when fired or overheating or just plain dropping out of receiver and unable to reload because the onboard computer still thought it was loaded bad. What about a really simple gun/weapon but manufactured with modern tolerances. Seems the problem is having complicated 'stuff' next to the magic which makes it short circuit. Matchlock pistol firing fireball bullets with red dot sight and tactical light? Hand crossbow with spirit summoning bolts? I figure mechanically there are restrictions to make sure players don't simply powergame their way into making a minigun that rips bits of your soul out every time it hits you before using that to explode in a giant fireball.
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With the way magic works in SR, making a gun with machine tools and making an identical gun with hand tools will result in the first gun being harder to do magic on than the second gun. The more removed from natural materials something is, the harder it is to get magic to interact with it.
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Z the IVth posted:What about a really simple gun/weapon but manufactured with modern tolerances. Seems the problem is having complicated 'stuff' next to the magic which makes it short circuit. Putting fancy targeting stuff on your gun instead of in your eyeballs shows you're a chump, but yes with the rules as written it would be easier to put magic on that stuff so long as they were hand made with "natural" materials. Modern armors being what they are,. You can expect the only real offensive benefit to come from whatever spells you slap on, so it wouldn't make sense for a spell caster. It COULD be a pretty neat way to give your chromed out friends some magic options.
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Part 24 - The Patriarch's Plea   We have ascended from the darkness of the sewers hopefully never to return, and promptly report back to the nameless maintenance worker while another 4 Karma falls on our lap from wherever they store that stuff.  Well... are you willing to drop your standards down from "everything" a bit? Because in that case sure, it went totally okay.  It's taken care of. You can leave... after you give me my money. What about Viktor? Your friend isn't coming. I'm sorry.If he does somehow pop up one day, you probably shouldn't invite him in for a beer or anything. Maybe consider giving the Ghosbusters a call just in case. Christ. Poor Vik. I don't know how I'm gonna tell his folks. Real close-knit family, they were. I found this maintenance manual on his body. Maybe you could give it to them. That's probably just an awkward pause resulting from us offering a bloodstained technical manual as a touching memento for the man's family. Still, he hands us ¥500 and we get another 2 Karma plus a third for returning the booklet. Not a bad haul for such a short job, though we ended up with a slight net loss money-wise thanks to that greedy bastard Ezkibel. As a side note, you can actually finish the mission fine without ever finding Viktor. It's unlikely to happen by accident though, his corpse is not exactly hidden plus he has the turbine code, so to pull it off you'd have to either look the code up or use a decker to bypass it while somehow missing the very obvious room right next to the turbine one. But if you do manage to fail in that oddly specific way, you miss out on the Karma point and the conversation is slightly different: quote:
 Time to move on. Since the last mission was just a quick side job, most people have nothing new to say (even Ezkibel doesn't mention it, at least yet) and our crew doesn't bother commenting on it. Couple of exceptions exists though, one being "Simmy" Kim.  Kim, are you all right? [She shakes her head.] I don't know. Have I ever been, when I'm me?[She then lowers her gaze from the heavens and regards you, her eyes showing slightly more clarity than before.] Been thinking. Remembering. Wondering. Do you want to talk about that black eye now? Zaak said not to. He said I might get hurt again.What? That guy's clearly crooked, but if he's going around beating people up then he's gonna have to find somewhere else to peddle his glittery garbage in. Kim, if Zaak is hurting you... No, it wasn't him. Zaak loves me. He loves everybody. But the man who did this knew Zaak. He said they used to work together, before they came to the Kreuzbasar. He said to tell Zaak that he was coming back to take what was his. Don't worry, Kim. We won't let him come back. If you say so. So, what have you been thinking about?[Kim hugs herself tightly around her midsection, drawing herself in and doing the impossible of making herself even thinner.] I'm not sure I want to talk about it. I only ever talked about it with Monika.Come now, you know our policy regarding personal issues. May as well save us all some time and get to it now rather than later. Anything you could say to her you can say to me. But then I come back out... here. Where children play in the street, and I remember. Where I see Doc Ezkibel, and I remember. He was mad at me for losing her, but now I don't know if he even remembers. He looks right through me. But I did what he told me... I saw him every month. I took the medicine. I got as much food as I could. But he said it wasn't enough. That I would never be... That's why all her BTLs involved taking care of a kid, huh... So Ezkibel was presumably her doctor while she was pregnant, and for some reason or another she ultimately ended up miscarrying which put her in a bad place. And then Monika hooked her up with BTLs with Zaak as her provider to help her cope with it, and that's the path she's been on since. poo poo. I'm sorry, Kim. Anything I can do? No. I'm okay. Thank you. I'll leave you be then.By the way, because we've talked to them every chance we get, we've just about exhausted the various Kreuzbasar conversations for the time being. Kim for example won't have anything new to say until after we deliver Alice's fee and start the endgame path, so she'll just have to hang in there for the time being.  Unsure of what we can do for Kim, we quickly excuse ourselves and head down the nearby trapdoor and into Lucky Strike's favorite hangout, the Weinkeller. Perhaps for the final time as I believe this to be the very last instance of Ms. Glowface having something new to say.   Hey again, Rosa. What's up? You said that you've got a team in Mitte. I'd like to hear a little more about them. [She shrugs.] They're good people. They get the job done. What else do you need to know? Their names, for one. You know my team, I'd like to know something about yours. Man, I wouldn't mind an actually competent and intelligent rigger in our team either. We should send this Racter guy an invitation, maybe he'd be interested in running with a ragtag bunch of outlaws with wildly different personalities desperately struggling against an incredibly powerful force of largely unknown nature while barely making ends meet. Then again, probably not. Hähnchen is our decker and requisite tough guy. Troll, huge, covered in tats and piercings - you know the type. I'm pretty sure that he and Barrakuda have a thing going on, but they'll never cop to it.[She presents herself to you with an ironic smile.] And then there's me. Between us, we keep our bases covered. I'm sure that you do. I'm willing to bet that my crew's better, though... there's still a space for you if you wanted to sign on.Not really true, I mean we already have to leave one party member out of every run, two would be even more annoying. Hate to disappoint you, but that isn't gonna happen. Not that I don't appreciate it, mind you. I just can't work with a team like yours on a permanent basis. Why not? The people in my crew get how things work in Berlin. Even Racter gets it, and he's still pretty new to the scene here. There's no leader on my team, and no one follows orders. We're all equals, and we can give suggestions or tell one another to piss off whenever we please. That doesn't sound practical. Truth be told, it sounds like a recipe for disaster. [She raises her glass and takes a moment to study the amber liquid inside.] You're a good runner with a good crew, Rosa - but it'll never be *my* crew. No hard feelings, though - I'll still moonlight for you whenever you need me.[She lifts the glass to her lips, closes her eyes, and drains it.] You know my price, and you know where to find me.To be honest she probably wouldn't fit in anyway, her personality seems like it'd start grating on everyone after a while. But she does seem to practice what she preaches and apparently it's working out for her so hey, good on ya lady. Yeah. By the way, I've been meaning to ask... what's up with the tattooed circuitry? Is it purely decorative, or...? When were you in Tokyo? 'Bout three years ago. Spent a few months there... it was a business trip, though. You know how it is - straight from the airport to the hotel to the job site, and back to the hotel again afterwards. Rinse and repeat until the job is done. Not the most exciting way to travel, but the pay was good. And what were you doing for the Yakuza? Work. The kind that you don't talk about afterward.I've played my share of Yakuza and let me tell you, the kind of nonsense those guys get up to? We probably wouldn't believe it even if she told us. So tattoo magic, huh? That's a new one to me. Yeah... it was for me, too. It's a metamagic thing - a way of quickening spells to a person. Binding magic into the flesh so that it's almost impossible to get rid of. Anyway, long story short, I found a way to break it. Now it just looks pretty in the lamplight. Yeah, it's a good look on you. I think so. Good thing, too - getting this thing removed would be a real pain. What did the tattoos do before you broke them? So, when I went to work for the Yaks, they offered - no, *insisted* - that I let them ink me. Said I'd need it for the job. Long story short, the tattoos did boost my abilities, but they also branded me. Marked me as Yakuza property, and gave them an easy way of tracking me from the astral plane.We can only hope this power to track anyone no matter where they go stays in the realm of fiction. Really though, agreeing to something like that in the first place seems like an amazingly bad idea. How'd you break the spell? That's an even longer story, and not one that I want to get into. Suffice it to say that it started with killing the guy who inked me, and ended in a pretty dark place. The upshot is that I can't go back to Japan. Ever. But at least I got my autonomy back.[She pauses for a moment to light up another cigarette. After she fills her lungs with smoke, she continues.] So the moral of this story, I guess, is not to take an employer's word at face value. It's a lesson that every shadowrunner needs to learn sooner or later, but I had a harder time with it than most. Now, can we talk about something else? Or better yet, can we shut up and have a drink or two? All of this yapping is making me thirsty.Learning that lesson the hard way is one thing we definitely have in common. Nah, I've gotta run. See you around. Yeah, see ya. Laine is also starting to run out of topics, but there's a few words left in the old war veteran yet.  I want to talk about what happened the other day.That was the beating in which the beater took a beating and ended up beaten instead. [The old soldier glowers, but given his physical handicaps and his recent injuries, he hardly makes for an intimidating figure, troll size notwithstanding.]  Hang my hoop. I'm not a child, woman! I'm not helpless. And even if I was, leave me to whatever fate I've earned. Who was it? Someone who heard an unfounded rumor. A rumor about me joining up with ORC, presumed favorite policlub among us trogs. Maybe he was Humanis. Or maybe just another Flux fanatic who thought the balance of power would be upset by me joining up with ORC. I don't know, and I don't care. I just want to be left alone.That's "Ork Rights Commission" by the way, not a confusing abbreviation at all. And what did they want? He wanted to dissuade me from lending my voice or experience to any pro-metahuman parties. I tried to talk him down. Tried to explain my fighting days are done. But he wouldn't believe me. Bastard made a liar of me, when I beat him with my crutch. Will they be back? Not if they know what's good for them. Last time, they caught me alone, taking a shortcut through an alley. I won't make that mistake again. I'm sticking close to home, and close to Samuel and his people. They won't shy away from a fight. All right. We'll leave it at that, for now. Changing the subject, I'd like to hear more about your part in the Euro Wars. [The old troll leans heavy on his crutch and takes a steadying breath.] I was a colonel in the Finnish Army. During the first Euro War, the Jaeger Brigade was mine. For decades, we'd used ATVs. Nasus and Bandvagns mostly. Slow, lumbering things, but built for the snows of the Lapland. I was the one who changed all that, moving us over to t-birds. I made us fast and nimble.It's a minor pet peeve of mine that a supposedly Finnish man keeps saying "the Lapland" even though there's never been "the" in Lapland. Between that and getting the direction of Russia wrong, I'm not entirely convinced Laine isn't just some German troll who got really messed up one day and started imagining he used to be a Finnish war hero. Oh, and t-birds or Thunderbirds are swift and armored Low Altitude Vehicles manned by small crews. Not to be confused with actual thunderbirds which are obviously a thing as well.  But I don't celebrate the title. Far too many young soldiers died under the command of the Arctic Fox. This is why some ask me to fight. And this is why I refuse. Thanks for the story. I won't take up any more of your time. Beckenbauer isn't accepting any new donations yet, but we quickly stop by to ask him how Alexander is doing.  He'll probaby be fine, he's a big boy. Well maybe not compared to orks and trolls, but y'know.  We also stop by Aljernon's to sell some junk and to get our latest cryptic prophecy.  Rosa. Do you feel thirsty? I do... parched, in fact. It happened when you walked through the door. I could really go for a cold one.[She pauses for a moment, considering.] Or am I speaking with another's voice...? Sometimes it's difficult to tell where I end and the dreams begin.Maybe you just need to cut down on the binge drinking, lady.  That's all there is to see around town, so let's head home and stretch our legs a bit. And maybe take a shower or three.  Afterwards we check our computer, finding no less than three messages waiting for us. Seems we've gotten all popular and stuff.  Might as well start from the top, with the message titled Thanks. quote:>>Silke Aw, good on ya Silke. Glad we managed to have such an unequivocally positive impact on someone's life for once. Next is the message titled Still alive. quote:>>Jana Sadly any real chance of Jana having a normal happy life went out the window the moment she was signed up for that accursed run. Hopefully she'll eventually find some semblance of peace though. Had we killed James and scrubbed the run, Jana would never be heard from again. Instead we'd get the following pissy mail from the Lodge: quote:>>WITHHELD The most immediately relevant of the messages seems to be the last one though. Something about a job? Let's see. quote:>>Mettbach, Gunari Gunari's the Romani weapons merchant who we haven't seen much since guns are for people who can't set other people on fire with their minds. While we're not in dire need of better firearms ourselves, them ending up in the hands of gangers instead of the Kreuzbasar does sound like bad news. We should probably get this taken care of before it gets out of hand.  Before we hit the streets again, we collect the payment from the Humanis safe house data we posted last time.  Gunari's shop is next to the sewer entrance to the southeast.  Welcome back. You need some weapons? Some ammunition, perhaps? I got your message about that missing shipment. How can I help? Your dear departed Monika used to provide encryption and information control for the Kreuzbasar. Now that she's gone, we merchants have been having no end of trouble. The obvious answer is that a gang has been intercepting our communications.It's certainly looking like Lucky Strike was right about Monika carrying too much responsibility here, things seem to be falling apart all over the place now that she's not around to hold the strings. What kind of communications? Shipping manifests. Payment orders. That kind of thing. A group with an agenda could use that information to set an ambush, and that's just what this gang has been doin'. Several cargo trucks full of goods have already been hijacked en route to the Kreuzbasar. "Rabengeister" is for once an actually cool-sounding gang name. In German anyway, "Raven Ghosts" doesn't quite have the same punch to it. So. I need you to go to Gesundbrunnen, find the Rabengeister, and get our goods back. I can offer you 500 nuyen for the task... and if you can recover our missing weapons shipment, I'll be able to sell you some better hardware, too.Another low payment job... but it's for the good of the Kreuzbasar I guess. We're gonna have to start getting back to proper runs soon though, there is still that whole dragon thing going on. Can you tell me anything else about this gang, the Rabengeister? [He frowns.] Not much, I'm afraid. From what I've heard... the Rabengeister are tricky. They have a reputation for stirring up trouble, then disappearing without a trace. I would tread carefully in Gesundbrunnen if I were you. How do I get to Gesundbrunnen? Just take the U-Bahn. The line still runs, though not many folks stop at Gesundbrunnen anymore. The market there used to be something of a tourist attraction... but I think they've fallen on hard times recently. I'll take care of it. Good. It's about time I had some new inventory come in. Only one buddy this time, huh? Well alright, as long as we get to pick them ourselves. God only knows what kinda pyromaniac circus clown we'd end up with this time around.  Let's just get this done so that we can go back to bigger things, like avoiding death by dragon and screwing with Blitz's relationships.   Seeing as we're only limited to one person we might as well bring our biggest muscle, just in case our silver tongue fails to lick people in the right spots.  Let's teach these thieving bastards that having a cool name is no justification for stealing our darn guns. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Aug 16, 2018 |
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I don't remember any of those Lucky Strike conversations. Maybe I annoyed her too much the first time, or I forgot to check the wine cellar more than once.Siegkrow posted:I would have taken blitz in case there is any decking to be done, but that would mean spending a whole mission alone with blitz D:
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Lucky Strike talks big, but somehow I don't think her team's philosophy worked out all that well for them in the end. Also I brought Glory because I thought I'd need healing. Also because Glory is great.
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Z the IVth posted:What about a really simple gun/weapon but manufactured with modern tolerances. Seems the problem is having complicated 'stuff' next to the magic which makes it short circuit. Besides items that are more "artificial" being harder to enchant, the main problem with trying to enchant bullets is that enchantments rely on the item remaining structurally intact. The stresses put on a hunk of lead when firing it out of a gun are bad enough to simply break the enchantment and turn your magic bullet back into a mundane one by the time it leaves the barrel. Enchanted arrows or throwing weapons don't have that issue and are perfectly doable, though.
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Siegkrow posted:I would have taken blitz in case there is any decking to be done, but that would mean spending a whole mission alone with blitz D: I took Eiger as well under the rationale "We're looking for guns ergo we take the woman who knows about guns. And can also break the face of anyone who doesn't want to give us said guns."
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U.T. Raptor posted:Lucky Strike talks big, but somehow I don't think her team's philosophy worked out all that well for them in the end. Very minor Hong Kong spoilers They lasted for a couple of years at least. And then Rachter ditched them without warning because he had poo poo to do in Hong Kong. Apparently things didn't go well for them after they lost Mr. Murderbot. The whole "Everyone is equal and makes their own choices thing" works great right up until the moment that it doesn't, and then you're up poo poo creek without a paddle.
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U.T. Raptor posted:Lucky Strike talks big, but somehow I don't think her team's philosophy worked out all that well for them in the end. Yeah, I don't really get how her team is somehow more free or equal than ours, but whatever, LS, you do you. Kanfy posted:It's certainly looking like Lucky Strike was right about Monika carrying too much responsibility here, things seem to be falling apart all over the place now that she's not around to hold the strings. Eh, it's the classic management blunder of not enough delegation. One almost gets the sense that she wasn't just looking at Rosa as a replacement, but as a lieutenant. She just didn't have the chance. (And that's why you always plan for the worst case scenario!)
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Kanfy posted:To be honest she probably wouldn't fit in anyway, her personality seems like it'd start grating on everyone after a while. But she does seem to practice what she preaches and apparently it's working out for her so hey, good on ya lady. Awhile nothing, she and Eiger would probably come to blows within an hour. Just completely diametric life philosophies, and neither one likely to back down or deescalate.
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Fighting Trousers posted:Eh, it's the classic management blunder of not enough delegation. One almost gets the sense that she wasn't just looking at Rosa as a replacement, but as a lieutenant. She just didn't have the chance. (And that's why you always plan for the worst case scenario!) LS is less optimistic about it but says very similar, I believe - that Monika micromanaged so much that nobody in the Kreuzbasar knew how to handle things on their own. See also: Simmy. Ideally you'd have different people taking care of different things so that if there was a huge hit to the infrastructure (such as your leader's brain turning into a microwaved smoothie) it doesn't cripple everything irrecoverably.
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The funny thing is that if you look at what the MC is doing, we're doing exactly the same thing as Monika. The exact same thing will happen if Rosa ever died.
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KataraniSword posted:LS is less optimistic about it but says very similar, I believe - that Monika micromanaged so much that nobody in the Kreuzbasar knew how to handle things on their own. The problem with that argument of course being that if Monika hadn't been doing all that micromanagement then there likely wouldn't be a Kreuzbasar left by now. Really, Monika's problem, ironically, was that she thought like a video game protagonist. She slapped patches on problems instead of working to solve the underlying issues that caused them. See: The doc being pissed about giving up profits to the ghouls and gaining nothing in return, and Simmy being.... well, Simmy. Stroth fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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Keldulas posted:The funny thing is that if you look at what the MC is doing, we're doing exactly the same thing as Monika. The exact same thing will happen if Rosa ever died. That was Lucky Strike's argument back we met her for the first time too. That said I don't think that much is hinging on our ongoing existence at the moment, right now we'd mostly just pass on the already existing issues to the next unlucky recipient. We can solve problems and make decisions without ending up as the sole linchpin, for example by giving Ezkibel a satisfactory long-term deal and paying him the full sum upfront. It's not a permanent solution but it's a lot more likely to outlive us than the previous deal. Plus luckily for us we're not some hotshot decker wizard most people can't hope to match so we don't have anything particularly unique and irreplaceable going for us. 
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paragon1 posted:Putting fancy targeting stuff on your gun instead of in your eyeballs shows you're a chump, but yes with the rules as written it would be easier to put magic on that stuff so long as they were hand made with "natural" materials. Thing is, I'm pretty sure there's a "no ranged weapon foci" rule in Shadowrun. So it ultimately wouldn't matter. Unless that's been changed in 5th. Stroth posted:The problem with that argument of course being that if Monika hadn't been doing all that micromanagement then there likely wouldn't be a Kreuzbasar left by now. Ah yes, the paradox of the Anarchist state. You can't have a leader, but who the hell is going to get poo poo done and direct others to get it done? mauman fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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mauman posted:
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Stroth posted:Very minor Hong Kong spoilers They lasted for a couple of years at least. And then Rachter ditched them without warning because he had poo poo to do in Hong Kong. Apparently things didn't go well for them after they lost Mr. Murderbot. The whole "Everyone is equal and makes their own choices thing" works great right up until the moment that it doesn't, and then you're up poo poo creek without a paddle.  That was what I was alluding to, yes.
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mauman posted:Thing is, I'm pretty sure there's a "no ranged weapon foci" rule in Shadowrun. So it ultimately wouldn't matter. It's a discussion best had in detail elsewhere, but a community or group professing anarchistic ideals while also having designated leaders and even authorities is not inherently contradictory.
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communism bitch posted:Anarchist organisation is not a contradiction in terms. Nor is Anarchist leadership. An Anarchist state would be, but that's because "state" has definite and particular definitions, typically involving coercive authority and monopolies on violence. Interesting. Except I was talking about an Anarchist State (literally called Flux-state or f-state). It also depends on your definition of Anarchy. Pretty sure Lucky Strike literally just disagreed with you up above.
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It's called The Flux State, sure, but there isn't really a State in reality from what I understand. It really is a bunch of small neighborhoods and organisations that more or less work together on common issues affecting them all with no defined central authority. And power between groups transitions all the time as we can see from the various groups contracting our party to fix infrastructural issues and/or gently caress over neighboring groups via murder
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mauman posted:Interesting. Except I was talking about an Anarchist State (literally called Flux-state or f-state). There's always degrees and scales to hierarchy. Yeah they're all coequal and can gently caress off whenever, but it's not like they're gonna argue with their face when he takes the lead on doing face poo poo, or argue with Richer about the best way to pilot his drones in the middle of combat.
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mauman posted:Thing is, I'm pretty sure there's a "no ranged weapon foci" rule in Shadowrun. So it ultimately wouldn't matter. As far as I'm aware, the only things not allowed to be turned into foci is the noncoporeal and things that already hold spells (preparations and such) or spirits. I was going to say living things as well but foci taking the form of tattoos make that a bit of a grey area.
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Aug 17, 2018 15:37
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paragon1 posted:As far as I'm aware, the only things not allowed to be turned into foci is the noncoporeal and things that already hold spells (preparations and such) or spirits. It's not that you can't turn a ranged weapon into a focus; it's that you can't make a focus for ranged weapons. You can, for example, have a spell focus built into your pistol grip instead of the more traditional staff. You can't create a weapon focus that will work at range. No magic bullets - at least not that way. (A possible trick that might work would be a different type of foci entirely and enchanting the bullet to trigger a spell effect on impact, but it'd cost thousands of =Y= per bullet just in raw materials and take days to craft each one)
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Aug 17, 2018 18:16
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kaosdrachen posted:(A possible trick that might work would be a different type of foci entirely and enchanting the bullet to trigger a spell effect on impact, but it'd cost thousands of =Y= per bullet just in raw materials and take days to craft each one) And it wouldn't work because, as already pointed out, firing a bullet damages it enough to break any enchantments on it before it even leaves the barrel.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:23
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There are preparation spells that are specifically made to add magical effects to bullets, but that's the rare exception. Usually magic weaponry is a melee focus or some kind of weaponized awakened biological, like FAB3.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:47
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Stroth posted:And it wouldn't work because, as already pointed out, firing a bullet damages it enough to break any enchantments on it before it even leaves the barrel. Enchanted marble fired with a sling.
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kaosdrachen posted:It's not that you can't turn a ranged weapon into a focus; it's that you can't make a focus for ranged weapons.
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