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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

What are the chances of an actual civil war? Like they have nukes, and thatís terrifying.

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

If he's overthrown, would there be a civil war?

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Real hurthling! posted:

lot of rumors that trump and bibi are going to announce a unilateral annexation plan this week to boost bibi's election 3.0 chances

thatís the dumbest loving idea Iíve ever heard.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

heard Bingy Yahoo launched a coup

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Jose posted:

definitely feels like this might result in israel pushing to just finish off gaza if MPs are calling for exactly that on twitter

https://twitter.com/bezalelsm/status/1392176875959685120?s=20

the Israelis tried that and failed lol. the army has atriophied after 40 years of shooting children.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

thatfatkid posted:

gently caress off back to dnd

Bellingcat scare tweets about magic evil Iraqis belong on dnd, yes



lmao

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1268235838208573440

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

all zionists are kahanists. Straight line from Luther to Hitler, straight line from Herzl to Kahan.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Epic High Five posted:

the Palestinians are also a Semitic people

it's a good way to make people mad when it's clear they're morons or libs

they're literally genetically indistinguishable

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

bedpan posted:

Leave Mr. Netanyahu alone. Suggesting he is causing or worsening the violence is a cowardly act (given that the violence precedes him, will continue after him, and is unrelated to him).

Sitting far away, with no skin in the game, and no rockets raining upon their heads - armchair critics in the US and Europe usually have a lot of advise about peace. Rather rich from people who perpetrated world wars, engaged in every crime against humanity, supported every criminal land and mineral grab in the third world, continue to supply arms, and exploit people. What you are looking at in Israel - much as no one likes it - is the best case scenario. No democracy (Israel) can negotiate with an organized crime racket (PA). All IDF can do is play whack-a-mole, regardless of its horrifying details.

I strongly recommend the apologists and second guessers in the west, who seem to know all about what Israel (and Netanyahu should do), go live in Gaza for a few years, try not just to make a living there, but also try to act out their own advice about building community and fostering an interest in peace and prosperity. When you return with success, we will be very happy to listen to you. Meanwhile, lay off Netanyahu.

source ur quotes

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

its not Hezbollah, its a rouge faction trying to start a war

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1392900010421809152

https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1392905799949864960

this is the dumbest thing possible so of course it happens. lightning round presidency,

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Hedenius posted:

I checked out her website and this antiracism training is something else.



This is your brain on centrism.

https://twitter.com/cvaldary/status/503921202344517632

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Once upon a timeóisnít that how stories are supposed to begin?óthere was a group of people who believed that their god had promised them a particular corner of the Middle East, and decided to take him up on the offer. It so happened that conditions just then were propitious for their project. The cultural politics of the major Western powers of the time favored it, and not merely in an abstract sense: money and weapons could be had for the attempt, and a great deal more could be made available if the project succeeded in establishing a foothold.

Even more crucial was the state of the Middle East at that time. The history of that region has a regular rhythm of systole and diastole that can be traced back very nearly to the earliest clay-tablet records: periods of centralization, in which a single major Middle Eastern power dominates as large a fraction of the world as the current transport technology will allow, alternate with periods of disintegration, in which the region fragments and turns into a chessboard on which powers from outside the region play their own power games. At the time weíre discussing, the Middle East was in one of its diastole phases, fractured into small quarrelling states, and the sudden seizure of a strategically important part of the region drew only a local and ineffective response.

So a new state came into being, surrounded by hostile neighbors, and a great deal of the shrill self-justifying rhetoric already described came from both sides of the new frontiers. Several of the major Western powers supported the new state with significant financial and military aid; of at least equal importance, members of the religious community responsible for creating the new state, who remained back in those same Western nations, engaged in vigorous fundraising efforts to support the new state, and equally vigorous political efforts to get existing governmental support maintained or increased. The resources thus made available to the new state gave it a substantial military edge against its hostile neighbors, and its existence became enough of a fait accompli that some of its neighbors backed away from a wholly confrontational stance.

Still, the stateís survival depended on three things. The first, and by far the most crucial, was the ongoing flow of support from the Western powers to pay for a military establishment far larger than the economic and natural resources of the territory in question would permit. The second was the continued fragmentation and relative weakness of the surrounding states. The third was the maintenance of internal peace within the state and of collective assent to a clear sense of priorities, so that it could respond with its full force to threats from outside instead of squandering its limited resources on civil strife or popular projects that contributed nothing to its survival.

In the long run, none of these three conditions could be met indefinitely. Shifts in cultural politics and, more importantly, in the economic stability of the Western powers of the time turned the large subsidies supporting the state into a political liability that eventually lost out in the struggle for available wealth. Meanwhile, in the Middle East, the power struggles between competing statelets began to give way to a new era of centralization. Finally, the internal cohesion of the state broke down in power struggles between different factions, and too many resources had been committed to politically necessary but practically useless projects such as the support of large religious communities that did nothing but pray and study the scriptures. The arrogant certainty that the state could always overcome its enemies and that the Western powers owed it the subsidies that paid for its survival put bitter icing on an already overbaked cake, and all but guaranteed the final disaster.

And that, dear reader, was why the Crusader kingdom of Jerusalem fell to the armies of Saladin in 1187, and why the last scraps of the kingdoms of Outremer, as the Crusaders called the land now known as Israel, were mopped up by Muslim armies over the century that followed.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Jimong5 posted:

This is always the thing that bothers me the most about how "the Arabs kicked the Jews out", like they realize Islam came from Judaism and it stands to reason that proto Muslims were Jewish, right? Muslims didn't just crawl out of a hole somewhere.

no one here is talking about Muslims. the Palestinian people are just Jews who converted to Christianity and then afterwards Islam.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/sanderwagner/status/999980012789993472

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Nethanyahu is facing basically the remainder of his life in prison if he doesn't solidly win an election. This is what people need to understand. Nethanyahu doesn't care about anything anymore, he is trying to keep himself from going to jail.

Israel had 4 elections in the last 2 years because the current Knesset refuses to pass a bill unilaterally pardoning him of his crimes. The most recent election also ended in a hung Knesset, so there will likely be a 5th election in 2 years in a couple months.

Everything he has done recently, has been to try and campaign to win a big enough majority to protect himself. He is currently facing trial while he is still the caretaker Prime Minister. But Israel has no official government right now. No bill can be passed, the people in charge are only so in a caretaker capacity to keep the government moving.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

extremely ironic because the Indian government is allied with Iran and has a Palestinian embassy.

Itís the reverse of those Pakistani idiots who obsess over turkey.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

favorite take maker w/ a new hot take

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1393888086048845827

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Stringent posted:

mad he stole your bit huh?

Search his account for Ethiopia and then search mine for Palestine.

obviously I care for both. heís just using it as a distraction

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

if they do get rid of the Palestinians then the haredim, chardalim and kahanists will have a nuclear civil war, with the winner being able to implement Jewish sharia.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/feufillet/status/1394089347973062657

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Peter Daou Zen posted:

literally not one person in the us government except maybe , MaYBE Rashida Tlaib can be trusted on Palestine. the squad loving sucks poo poo.

ughhh

Ilhan cares more about Palestine than Somalia.( and thatís a good thing, America needs to pay less attention to Somalia)

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Lol

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Israel has 80 nukes at the most. 300 is impossible, Great Britain has 300 nukes and India has 150.

like half their budget would be going to nuclear weapons.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

human garbage bag posted:

The US had 30,000 nukes by 1965.

The us controlled 2/3s of the world, while Israel is the size of Delaware.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Israel's new ruling government is a triumvirate of a Ultra-Nationalist far-rightist who wishes to create a Jewish Reich, a European-loving Neoliberal centrist fencesitter, and an Islamist who wants Sharia law for Arab Israelis and said the Paris attacks were justified due to gay rights and loose women.

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

smarxist posted:

seems fine

Makes the Malaysian coalition look sane.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

lol how could this person not know what "12" means? are they like british or something?

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

New type of person just dropped

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Atrocious Joe posted:

but what does she think of Abiy Ahmed

depends on her ethnicity. there are tigrayan and Amhara beta isreal.



Chuka Umana posted:

Got into an shouting argument tonight because I said that there is no non-Arab working class in Israel. This was some DSA dude who was arguing that the ruling class in Israel is the main driver behind Zionism and I argued that any non-Arab person in Israel is inherently a colonizer.

that is stupid. someone has to maintain the nukes and weaponry.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Rigged Death Trap posted:

No they need constant reassurance that theyre not horrible monsters.
Anything otherwise is a hideous antisemitic lie that puts the safety of israel in jeopardy

like slaveowners in the American south, who wanted to ban criticism of slavery and make abolitionists say poo poo smells good actually!

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MairavZ/status/1409938111170322432

dudes down catastrophically bad

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Tfw when you love apartheid so much you sclep 7000 miles just to have it back

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnMappin/status/1640296004699185153

https://mobile.twitter.com/Hezbolsonaro/status/1640473145856655360

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019



I respect this honesty far more than losers like Blake.

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Echo Chamber posted:

Zionism sucks but an Israeli absolute monarchy would be so funny in a sadistic way.

isreali iran would be so funny lol

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/ArmandDoma/status/1651088389662457856

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Nov 16, 2019

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