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Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.
Great, I can finally sell my Kangaskhan and Japanese Farfetch'd and Tropius! Bidding starts at €50, who is interested?

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Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
I'm excited for both the legitimate uses of this and the two immediate consequences: people being beaten up while trying to sell pokemon in person, and a bot teleporting to your house to trade you the farfetch'd you just bought on ebay

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Stat randomization gets less and less the closer you are a friend with someone, so people with multis can still trade all of their good poo poo to one account and not take too much of a hit, it would seem.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

seiferguy posted:

If they allowed team changing, wouldn't everyone just switch to Blue?

We actually have a pretty even split here (judging by the legendary raids I’ve done) but my problem has been that me and my girlfriend both downloaded the game on day one and I went blue and she went red, and we’ve been wanting for one of us to be able to switch ever since. Seems like it should be easy but no indication of it ever happening.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Yesss. I knew picking up two Mr. Mimes in Amsterdam was a good plan. :3:

CyberLord XP
Oct 18, 2005

Goldie...She says her name is Goldie

seiferguy posted:

Stat randomization gets less and less the closer you are a friend with someone, so people with multis can still trade all of their good poo poo to one account and not take too much of a hit, it would seem.

If 40k stardust a mon is not a hit for you then congrats but that's a ton IMO.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

I managed to catch fourteen shiny Larvitar on Community Day, clearly I was unknowingly carrying a rabbit's paw in my back pocket :stare:

Froist
Jun 6, 2004

Pez posted:

I'll give every stardust I have for a Mr Mime

Hey there old buddy, old friend, old pal..

Loser_Rex
Apr 14, 2006

Spidercock? Here?

CyberLord XP posted:

If 40k stardust a mon is not a hit for you then congrats but that's a ton IMO.

I have 2 million saved up without really trying. The Plus makes it pretty easy.

Solanumai
Mar 26, 2006

It's shrine maiden, not shrine maid!

seiferguy posted:

If they allowed team changing, wouldn't everyone just switch to Blue?

I would instantly change out of blue because having my poo poo stuck in a gym for 14 days kind of sucks. I'd rather be able to topple all of the perpetually blue poo poo around here and get my Pokemon/coins back from gyms more regularly.

There's just too many blue team people in my area.

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

NZAmoeba posted:

Plus randomising the stats unless you're trading with someone you're "Best Friends" with is pretty lol. Overall it seems like it's going to be a good mechanic that reduces bullshit and farming bots.

Niantic's been on a roll lately, this and quests.

wait if stats are randomized if you trade with non-friends can't you trade low stat/high rarity pokemon away and back to try to reroll into something better?

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

flatluigi posted:

wait if stats are randomized if you trade with non-friends can't you trade low stat/high rarity pokemon away and back to try to reroll into something better?

It's randomized within a range defined by your Friendship Level or something so I expect it can only go down over time, not up. I'm sure silph road will figure it out but I read it as the max IV it could trade at is the current IV, and it might (probably will) roll lower. At which point that's the new max for a second trade, etc.

basically I expect a bunch of 0 IV regionals to be passed around for dex completion and then nobody will use this feature.

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Psion posted:

It's randomized within a range defined by your Friendship Level or something so I expect it can only go down over time, not up. I'm sure silph road will figure it out but I read it as the max IV it could trade at is the current IV, and it might (probably will) roll lower. At which point that's the new max for a second trade, etc.

basically I expect a bunch of 0 IV regionals to be passed around for dex completion and then nobody will use this feature.
That's my understanding as well, though I'm also planning to use it to help out some underpowered players by handing off some 1K+CP trash.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf
I'm sad the distance based bonus candy maxes out at 100km, I would have made bank trading my assorted collection of New Zealand caught mons with my Montreal raiding group.

I wonder how much candy it'll give? 1 per km would be fun but I somehow doubt that...

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

NZAmoeba posted:

I'm sad the distance based bonus candy maxes out at 100km, I would have made bank trading my assorted collection of New Zealand caught mons with my Montreal raiding group.

I wonder how much candy it'll give? 1 per km would be fun but I somehow doubt that...

I'll just make up a number: 3.

seriously I can't imagine it being super high, especially if it caps at 100km.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
I'm legitimately surprised

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

humpthewind posted:

I hope Mr mimes and kanghaskhans get traded player to player like a used needle to fill out pokedexes.

That's how you get pokerus.

DeadlyHalibut
May 31, 2008
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/pokemon-go-update-adds-trading-andfriends-system-s/1100-6459866/

This confirms that trading can improve IVs. If the non-special trading is reasonably cheap I can see trying to roll some high level, bad iv pokemons into better versions by trading it back and forth until its good.

Pez
Feb 28, 2002

Thanks to CoX, my stairs will be protected forever!
Niantic won't care because it inflates the stardust economy and keeps us addicts playing

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
Yeah you're basically paying dust to reroll. Everyone wins

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

Psion posted:

I'll just make up a number: 3.

seriously I can't imagine it being super high, especially if it caps at 100km.

quote:

Niantic showed an example where one player traded a Dratini caught over 100km away and received three candy.

are you a wizard?

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

DeadlyHalibut posted:

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/pokemon-go-update-adds-trading-andfriends-system-s/1100-6459866/

This confirms that trading can improve IVs. If the non-special trading is reasonably cheap I can see trying to roll some high level, bad iv pokemons into better versions by trading it back and forth until its good.

Depending on the stardust cost of trading that might defeat the purpose of trading high level bad IV mons

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

NZAmoeba posted:

are you a wizard?

Dude, Psion

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
On one hand, finally. On the other, we could just have more Farfetch style catch events to spread out regionals and everyone would be cool.

There's already people on my Facebook and Reddit feeds offering money for certain shinies and legendaries.

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.

Cowslips Warren posted:

On one hand, finally. On the other, we could just have more Farfetch style catch events to spread out regionals and everyone would be cool.

There's already people on my Facebook and Reddit feeds offering money for certain shinies and legendaries.

hell yea I can’t wait til I read about someone getting robbed for their shiny kyogre

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



all i care about is getting my na regional dex done, meaning i need latios, latias and unown. i won't even keep any of them since none are useful.

i'll prolly end up with some other non-na pokemon though since i am in college. i've already seen mr. mime, kangaskhan, heracross, corsola, lunatone and volbeat in gyms and people are already making plans to pass all of them along.

DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Jun 19, 2018

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
I feel like each community should find one super obssessed high level person to act as a trader. It's gonna be real costly to trade a bunch of stuff for Dex entries to random people, but if a hundred people all get 30+ day friendship with one person, they can pass through for cheap

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Do unowns count as legendaries? I was planning on just doing an immediate traceback, but that might be impossible.


Guess the silph road can finally fulfill their stated purpose.

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Observing this filth unsettles me

Beachcomber posted:

Do unowns count as legendaries? I was planning on just doing an immediate traceback, but that might be impossible.


Guess the silph road can finally fulfill their stated purpose.

No, but if the person you're trading to doesn't have one it will still be counted as a special trade(legendaries/shinies/dex entries) so can only be done once a day. I doubt they'll make it as specific as every letter is unique.

Community day was pretty great. Caught about 150 larvitar on both accounts, both accounts got 5 shiny and both got 4 91+ iv larvs(notable mostly only because my alt is lvl 29 so the IV's are random).

Did anyone else see that privacy policy release? That sure was... Something. I hope one of the sites does a breakdown of its implications.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

all i care about is getting my na regional dex done, meaning i need latios, latias and unown. i won't even keep any of them since none are useful.

i'll prolly end up with some other non-na pokemon though since i am in college. i've already seen mr. mime, kangaskhan, heracross, corsola, lunatone and volbeat in gyms and people are already making plans to pass all of them along.

I’ve been using Latios on my Blizzard Kyogre team. It can fire off one Solar Beam and then die, just like my Groudon

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

kensei posted:

What is Lapras good for anymore, besides the dex entry? Honestly asking, I have not cared about catching it since they were massively nerfed.

I like using Lapras a lot because it's a good mix of survivability and being in the upper crust of what ice Pokemon are available right now despite that nerf. There's some harder attackers, but they have less CP and are more glass cannon-y.

I'm probably just biased because I like Lapras as a Pokemon though. I dunno what else people use to kill dragons but I always whip out my best bud Lapras and ice them to death.

Zombie Dachshund
Feb 26, 2016

Willsun posted:

I'm probably just biased because I like Lapras as a Pokemon though. I dunno what else people use to kill dragons but I always whip out my best bud Lapras and ice them to death.

:same:

Pretty psyched that a 96% plesiosaur hatched from a 2K egg yesterday!

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack
Woo, trading finally. I can now give my GF all this stuff I've been holding onto for her.

Also, regarding "I won community day" posts, I submit this -



Which I have turned into this -

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
" With our new knowledge that the probability of receiving a shiny Pokémon from an eligible wild encounter is roughly 0.222%, or 1 shiny in every 450 encounters, we can extrapolate that a traveler has an 80% chance of receiving a shiny Pokémon after engaging approximately 725potentially shiny encounters."

Lol. 58 potential shinies to get, that's a ton but still very rare

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Stupid
Bread Liar

mastershakeman posted:

" With our new knowledge that the probability of receiving a shiny Pokémon from an eligible wild encounter is roughly 0.222%, or 1 shiny in every 450 encounters, we can extrapolate that a traveler has an 80% chance of receiving a shiny Pokémon after engaging approximately 725potentially shiny encounters."

Lol. 58 potential shinies to get, that's a ton but still very rare

On the surface that's perfectly fine as shinies SHOULD be rare, with the exceptions being events where they adjust the probability. I know people are insane over shinies and get bent out of shape when they don't get one but that's the point.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

mastershakeman posted:

" With our new knowledge that the probability of receiving a shiny Pokémon from an eligible wild encounter is roughly 0.222%, or 1 shiny in every 450 encounters, we can extrapolate that a traveler has an 80% chance of receiving a shiny Pokémon after engaging approximately 725potentially shiny encounters."

Lol. 58 potential shinies to get, that's a ton but still very rare

Aren't shinies supposed to be even rarer in the main games? I've not really played them but i hear people talking about seeing one shiny in their entire game.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

AirRaid posted:

Aren't shinies supposed to be even rarer in the main games? I've not really played them but i hear people talking about seeing one shiny in their entire game.

It's something like 1/4000, I've only encountered a shiny once in my life outside of hacked ones off the gts.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

AirRaid posted:

Aren't shinies supposed to be even rarer in the main games? I've not really played them but i hear people talking about seeing one shiny in their entire game.

Not going to look it up, but it used to be something like .002, unless it was .0028. Something like that. There are ways to increase the odds these days, but farming for shinies is still a major PITA.

Edit: I fail at Pokémon and fractions. It was 1/8192 which is .00012

Beachcomber fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jun 19, 2018

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Stupid
Bread Liar

AirRaid posted:

Aren't shinies supposed to be even rarer in the main games? I've not really played them but i hear people talking about seeing one shiny in their entire game.

Yes, people put on Twitch streams just for shiny searching and sometimes encounters can get up in the thousands before they get what they want. The probability for some of them can be insane.

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AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack
Right.

Which makes this

mastershakeman posted:

Lol. 58 potential shinies to get, that's a ton but still very rare

extra :jerkbag:

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