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cda posted:James loving Brown Dude didn't do poo poo but sell an image and heavily exploit his musicians.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VGGNzjTga4
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Dec 14, 2017 19:24
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Revolver and Rubber Soul are the only good albums IMO
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Dec 14, 2017 19:25
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hey! abbey road's alright
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Dec 14, 2017 19:29
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The Beatles absolutely started out as a manufactured product, but grew past that. The Rolling Stones were practically a blues cover band when they came out. Also, Paul Mcartney was still accomplishes outside of the Beatles.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:57
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Carmant posted:I've never met anyone who actively listens to the beatles either aside from one dweeby college music professor I had. He even made us sign a piece of paper that said the beatles were the greatest band of all time and if we didnt we would fail the class lol. Maybe thats why I dont like them This sounds like some sort of God's Not Dead fanfic.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:58
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I think it’s safe to say anyone who has decent taste should respect and like the Beatles; however, if the Beatles are your favorite band in 2017, then you have very boring taste and are probably a very boring person.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:59
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Ive always hated the beatles and their terrible music. They suck and im sick of hearing their crappy songs and seeing their ugly stupid faces everywhere i go.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:04
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:Ive always hated the beatles and their terrible music. They suck and im sick of hearing their crappy songs and seeing their ugly stupid faces everywhere i go. Where do you still hear their songs? I never do and forget about them for like years at a time practically.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:13
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The true and very simple answer was that they discovered weed immediately after recording Help. When they shot the movie they were constantly high as hell and the people making it were fairly frustrated about having to herd a bunch of stoned cats all day, lol
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Dec 14, 2017 20:13
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facebook jihad posted:I think it’s safe to say anyone who has decent taste should respect and like the Beatles; however, if the Beatles are your favorite band in 2017, then you have very boring taste and are probably a very boring person. Honestly, they're like musical vanilla. Bear in mind, there was a time before vanilla was used in cooking and it paved the way for much better stuff. Your favorite flavor probably shouldn't be vanilla but also hating vanilla feels like being contrarian for no good reason, unless you also hate all music made since the 60s.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:15
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Skeleton Ape posted:The true and very simple answer was that they discovered weed immediately after recording Help. When they shot the movie they were constantly high as hell and the people making it were fairly frustrated about having to herd a bunch of stoned cats all day, lol "Got to Get You Into My Life" is about how much Paul loves weed. I used to hate that song then discovered its origin...
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Dec 14, 2017 20:20
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Omnitrix posted:"Got to Get You Into My Life" is about how much Paul loves weed. I used to hate that song then discovered its origin... It’s true. Paul also got killed in that car accident because he was driving while really stoned.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:25
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facebook jihad posted:It’s true. Paul also got killed in that car accident because he was driving while really stoned. No but hes been arrested for weed possession a bunch of times, including the infamous Japan incident. My favorite is when he got busted in LA and said it was Linda's so they wouldn't deport him. She took the rap for that one.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:29
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Omnitrix posted:"Got to Get You Into My Life" is about how much Paul loves weed. I used to hate that song then discovered its origin... "Fixing a Hole" is also about how much Paul loves weed.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:31
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The Beatles were great for their time; in fact they were better for their time than any pop band has been for its respective time since, and they laid the groundwork for many artists to perfect upon since then. No each of their albums as a whole hasn't stood the test of time that well. And yes there were better jazz artists around the same time, and a few bands got started just as the Beatles were winding down which would go on to produce some better music of their own. That doesn't diminish what the Beatles achieved because contemporary white music was a black hole of culture and creativity in the 50s and early 60s until the Beatles showed up and injected life into it. As for the Beach Boys, yes Pet Sounds is better than any Beatles album. Most of their albums flat out suck though. You can find a few other rival artists with one great album and a bunch of crap ones. That's nothing special, but their rivalry did contribute so I'll give them kudos for it. Bodyholes fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Dec 14, 2017 20:48
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I’m one of those weirdos who thinks the best band of the 60s was the Velvet Underground but as I get older I’m more ok with the Beatles Also I love Tomorrow Never Knows all day every day
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Dec 14, 2017 21:00
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paul_soccer10 posted:Henry Ford Jr pushed beatlemania in America to keep white youths away from negro music which he thought was a Jewish conspiracy lol @ this good thing? it's actually bad
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Dec 14, 2017 21:00
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Omnitrix posted:No but hes been arrested for weed possession a bunch of times, including the infamous Japan incident. My favorite is when he got busted in LA and said it was Linda's so they wouldn't deport him. She took the rap for that one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNa18cpMHWE
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Dec 14, 2017 21:01
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here there and everywhere was paul mccartney trying to one-up brian wilson when the beach boys released god only knows, which paul has called the most beautiful song ever written sigh i sure wish we still lived in a time when insanely talented musicians were trying to out-genius eachother
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Dec 14, 2017 21:04
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FogHelmut posted:Dude didn't do poo poo but sell an image and heavily exploit his musicians. kinda agree. his band was fuckin unreal though.
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Dec 14, 2017 21:06
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Auritech posted:I’m one of those weirdos who thinks the best band of the 60s was the Velvet Underground but as I get older I’m more ok with the Beatles I agree that VU owned, but they weren’t nearly as accessible as the Beatles. Also the older I get the harder it is to listen to White Light/White Heat. Give me the self titled third album any day over that.
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Dec 14, 2017 21:11
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Secular Humanist posted:here there and everywhere was paul mccartney trying to one-up brian wilson when the beach boys released god only knows, which paul has called the most beautiful song ever written definitely also about weed quote:I want her everywhere and if she's beside me
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Dec 14, 2017 21:11
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Carmant posted:The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved. In a sense, the Beatles are emblematic of the status of rock criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it grunge or U2) and too little to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no major label picks him up and sells him around the world, a lot of rock critics will ignore him. If a major label picks up a musician who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of rock criticism: rock critics are basically publicists working for major labels, distributors and record stores. They simply highlight what product the music business wants to make money from. Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great musician like Tim Buckley, who never sold much, and commercial products like the Beatles. At such a time, rock critics will study their rock history and understand which artists accomplished which musical feat, and which simply exploited it commercially. Beatles' "Aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll. It replaced syncopated African rhythm with linear Western melody, and lusty negro attitudes with cute white-kid smiles. Contemporary musicians never spoke highly of the Beatles, and for good reason. They could never figure out why the Beatles' songs should be regarded more highly than their own. They knew that the Beatles were simply lucky to become a folk phenomenon (thanks to "Beatlemania", which had nothing to do with their musical merits). That phenomenon kept alive interest in their (mediocre) musical endeavours to this day. Nothing else grants the Beatles more attention than, say, the Kinks or the Rolling Stones. There was nothing intrinsically better in the Beatles' music. Ray Davies of the Kinks was certainly a far better songwriter than Lennon & McCartney. The Stones were certainly much more skilled musicians than the 'Fab Four'. And Pete Townshend was a far more accomplished composer, capable of entire operas such as "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia"; not to mention the far greater British musicians who followed them in subsequent decades or the US musicians themselves who initially spearheaded what the Beatles merely later repackaged to the masses. "If the cop honestly felt that this was a young black man (as politically incorrect as it sounds, this is the most violent category of people in the USA) aiming a gun at him, the cop can hardly be blamed for shooting first." - The same guy that wrote the thing you quoted.
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Dec 14, 2017 21:12
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FogHelmut posted:Dude didn't do poo poo but sell an image and heavily exploit his musicians. You're insane. His singing is amazing.
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Dec 14, 2017 21:13
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Also, he's in the top tier of frontmen, but I guess live performance doesn't have anything to do with being a musician.
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Dec 14, 2017 21:14
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cda posted:"If the cop honestly felt that this was a young black man (as politically incorrect as it sounds, this is the most violent category of people in the USA) aiming a gun at him, the cop can hardly be blamed for shooting first." - The same guy that wrote the thing you quoted. I think that was posted as a joke
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Dec 14, 2017 21:15
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cda posted:You're insane. His singing is amazing. *grunts* huh yeah *grunts* get on the foot floor waaah oh yeah cda posted:Also, he's in the top tier of frontmen, but I guess live performance doesn't have anything to do with being a musician. yeah you can have that
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Dec 14, 2017 21:17
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FogHelmut posted:*grunts* huh yeah *grunts* get on the foot floor waaah oh yeah Hey, dip poo poo, listen to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFG4J1wi5fY
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Dec 14, 2017 21:18
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The Beatles were merely ok, OP
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Dec 14, 2017 21:26
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He was also an incredible showman. Post the best Beatles live performance of all time and it will pale in comparison to just about any James Brown concert you can mention. You'd rather be at Shea Stadium than watching this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT_Fi7QTaQo
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Dec 14, 2017 21:26
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cda posted:Hey, dip poo poo, listen to this. 1962 he was barely becoming known now go to the mid 60's and on and post things where he's mumbling incoherently while his band invents a new genre of music
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Dec 14, 2017 21:28
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Who can forget the electrifying performance of a morose and drugged out John Lennon and his wailing banshee side show
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Dec 14, 2017 21:31
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someone back this up with Bootsy Collins, see if I'm right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68
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Dec 14, 2017 21:36
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ElGroucho posted:Who can forget the electrifying performance of a morose and drugged out John Lennon and his wailing banshee side show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2i9RvBOSZ4
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FogHelmut posted:1962 he was barely becoming known 1967 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unHB2-U074c
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Dec 14, 2017 21:36
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Post any Beatles performance that's as good as this.
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Dec 14, 2017 21:38
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James Brown sucks
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Rubellavator posted:James Brown sucks
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cda posted:Post any Beatles performance that's as good as this. You could take any band and find better performances than the beatles. Their best stuff is experimenting in the studio, that's part of what makes them remarkable for their era. They also couldn't tour after a while because of screaming fans.
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