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Ze Pollack posted:to a certain degree it's just sensible preventative infrastructure development. poo poo's gonna happen at some point, it's a question of when. yeah. its gonna happen and sooner than later especially with trump looking for "wins", the lovely tax bill will keep his ego stroked for a bit but no one likes it and that will go away with the next big gently caress up or the Russia poo poo. he might go to war with iran at some point, but i think even the military/IC knows how catastrophic that would be for the US and the region. if they are going to war. north korea is the "safer" pick. yes thousands/possibly million or so will die especially with trump in charge. but it will probably be contained with in the peninsula.
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Best Giraffe posted:D E H U M A N I Z E ___ Y O U R S E L F The us military bungling the nk war so hard that we end up as a Juche puppet state can be the only way a Trump presidency could end
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idk. i feel like this will get really, really bad. like pages of dead casualty figures in the news paper. not to mention Seoul getting blown to hell. we are already stretched thin because of Afghanistan and Iraq and trump keeps stretching us thiner and getting even more spec ops people killed in dumb poorly planned missions.
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Pros and cons of the Democratic People's Republic of North America Pros: legal weed booming coal industry annexation of Canada JPDON cool parades Cons: can't think of any atm
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if kimmy boi will give us legal weed and cool parades then he'll, he has my vote
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Dapper_Swindler posted:idk. i feel like this will get really, really bad. like pages of dead casualty figures in the news paper. not to mention Seoul getting blown to hell. we are already stretched thin because of Afghanistan and Iraq and trump keeps stretching us thiner and getting even more spec ops people killed in dumb poorly planned missions. war with north korea would be horrifying, the worst war in world history to date. there are ~30k us troops in south korea now, who will probably all die if this goes nuclear. 36k us soldiers died in the first korean war over the period of years; there would be a similar death toll in the second over a week or so (as american troops slowly die of radiation poisoning). north korea supposedly has the capability to hit most of the continental us with hydrogen bombs, but let's assume they can only hit Honolulu once. The island has a population of 1m, so we are talking about > 500k civilian us fatalities. there were 400k US casualties from WWII. there are 75m koreans in both koreas. if we assume only a 10% fatality rate from nuclear war, this would still be more civilian casualties than the holocaust, only over the course of a week or so. so it won't be like iraq, you won't even be able to fit the number of US casualties in a single newspaper.
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GoluboiOgon posted:war with north korea would be horrifying, the worst war in world history to date. there are ~30k us troops in south korea now, who will probably all die if this goes nuclear. 36k us soldiers died in the first korean war over the period of years; there would be a similar death toll in the second over a week or so (as american troops slowly die of radiation poisoning). yeah. the "best scenario" is a decapitation strike that actualy works and the utter wasting of the DMZ before NK can open fire on Seoul and their missile sites. none of thats gonna happen. my guess is there gonna keep testing, probaly one at new years or around then and at some point trump will say gently caress it and order a strike. probably a big dumb one like that MOAB strike in Afghanistan.
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GoluboiOgon posted:war with north korea would be horrifying, the worst war in world history to date. there are ~30k us troops in south korea now, who will probably all die if this goes nuclear. 36k us soldiers died in the first korean war over the period of years; there would be a similar death toll in the second over a week or so (as american troops slowly die of radiation poisoning). the worst war in world history? 50-60 million died in ww2 buddy
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Phi230 posted:the worst war in world history? 50-60 million died in ww2 buddy higest rate of death / day i mean.
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Worst war of the 21st century in any case. The only real question is, will there be a Kim Jong Un Must Go curse?
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if trump starts a war with north korea most americans will be more annoyed that the olympics get canceled than any death toll
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Best Giraffe posted:D E H U M A N I Z E ___ Y O U R S E L F
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SpaceGoku posted:if trump starts a war with north korea most americans will be more annoyed that the olympics get canceled than any death toll ehh. if like 300 or 3000 soldiers die in a day/week. they will care. it took a couple of years for the american death tolls to climb in iraq and afganistan, enough for the average american to be "desensitized" to it. Pener Kropoopkin posted:Worst war of the 21st century in any case. The only real question is, will there be a Kim Jong Un Must Go curse? what curse?
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Dreddout posted:Pros and cons of the Democratic People's Republic of North America and we'll literally get to eat the rich
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SpaceGoku posted:if trump starts a war with north korea most americans will be more annoyed that the olympics get canceled than any death toll lol this is accurate fucjk us
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Can't wait to be in awe of the beauty of our weapons again.
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I hope that when trump gives the order he doesnt evacuate the civilians because that would tip off nk that war is innevitable. Element of surprise bing bong so simple as thousands of americans die from Seoul getting flatten in the counter attack
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what would the rest of the world actually do if he just dropped a nuke on Pyongyang?
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either china or nk would retaliate, so either south korea, or okinawa is getting nuked, and i think it's likely europe and the rest of the world would sanction the US completely
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Dec 29, 2017 11:06
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I like how even in this lefty loon forum people are still wringing their hands over American casualty figures, and not the million or so South Koreans who will be killed or maimed because Donald Trump couldn't handle being called a dotard.
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Dec 29, 2017 11:53
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Im honestly not sure how much nk would actually attack south korea in the case of a us invasion - their long term goal is unification, and they still see southerners as korean. Attacking anything more directly related to tge US seems more likely, abd if they can reach the continental us, that's where they'll go. Okinawa is important as a naval base, and even a naval nuclear strike against a carrier group honestly seems more likely.
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North Korea has attacked the South several times before when they think the US is being too provocative, including firing live artillery rounds onto an inhabited South Korean island. They're typically very minor instances, and most people have no clue they even happened because usually nobody dies. However, if the United States tries doing a decapitation strike or an incursion to destroy their nuclear weapons, the DPRK will retaliate and a lot of people will die. So when the North retaliates to our own acts of aggression, it's certain that Trump won't know how to do anything but keep escalating.
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Oh sure, a retaliation is inevitable, and the instant the us crosses the dmz is the instant that entire parallel gets irradiated, but an major attack on seoul itself is i think unlikely, and definitely not a nuclear strike If the us attacks immediately, without the consent of the south, i can see anti-us sentiment in the south rising, and post-war, that could be used by the north as a way to kick the us out of south korea, make way for china, and get some sort of limited unification In other words - a unilateral strike by the us may present a possibility for the north to achieve its long term goal of unification, assuming it can survive, and it may not want to squander that opportunity by killing tonnes of people in seoul
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I can also see china willing to make some major + serious concessions to the south, and be willing to act as arbitrator, if it means pushing the us out - and it will have the moral high ground/international support in doing so.
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rudatron posted:either china or nk would retaliate, so either south korea, or okinawa is getting nuked, and i think it's likely europe and the rest of the world would sanction the US completely 
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/us/politics/trump-interview-excerpts.htmlquote:SCHMIDT: Explain your North Korea tweet to me today. _________ quote:SCHMIDT: Can you finish your thought on North Korea. What’s going on with China? lol at the reporter pointing out the picture may be from months ago and Trump saying nah huh it was reported on Fox News today! We should rename the thread to Watch Fox News Start A loving War.
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[in conversation about potential nuclear war] "The nice china president really likes me, he says i am his best friend and that he really likes me and thinks im cool. he likes me more than anyone has every liked anyone, thats how much he likes me"
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Smythe posted:i dont want to die. 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I like how even in this lefty loon forum people are still wringing their hands over American casualty figures, and not the million or so South Koreans who will be killed or maimed because Donald Trump couldn't handle being called a dotard. no one is under the illusion that the american public would care about dead south koreans
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i wonder how south koreans right now feel about the situation because there have been times when the U.S. media hyped war but the south korean public went  makes me think trump is doing this mainly for domestic political reasons, like any other banana republic supremo
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i wonder how south koreans right now feel about the situation because there have been times when the U.S. media hyped war but the south korean public went from september quote:Gallup also said 59 percent of respondents were against the idea of the United States attacking North Korea first should North Korean provocations continue, while 33 percent said it should.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:no one is under the illusion that the american public would care about dead south koreans payments to samsung is like 25% of the cost of an iphone. they buy the screen from samsung. alternatives: LG, lol. i think high end xiaomi and poo poo is also samsung screens so no such thing as a high end smartphone anymore if the samsung district is a smoking crater in the ground
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https://twitter.com/axios/status/946746377773596672 Love to watch the President singlehandedly push for war and probably succeed.
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the trumpy relaunches. we'll see. and the general talking about preparing for a big war is not unusual, and that's been a thing with the u.s. military for this whole decade so far, but normally they use duller phraseology for it like "rebuilding core competencies." of course war could start tomorrow haha!
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