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Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
Man. I really like the actual animated Fafner because it has a lot of stylized choices with the Hiraifaces, like using huge blush stickers and emphasising the hair and cheeks, but that does not come out at all in this game.

So when do Shinn and Kazuki get a combination attack?

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Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
"Heroman, will you fight with me if that happens?"
"Well what I was thinking was you could get me a cup of coffee"

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
How many units fit into a squad in this game? In @3 you could easily fight upwards of 50 enemies by like, stage 20, since they could pack four units into one tile.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
If it's only two units for a tile then unless this game has J-level reinforcements or throws seas of enemies at you, getting 200 kills in 40ish stages sounds... difficult.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
With the bugged kill counter that sounds awful. Good luck!

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
>Take it out and we’ll get a Psy’s Skateboard which is a consumable Skill Part (+10 to evasion and melee, +5 to ranged).

Is that like parameter up parts in V, or is this "use on the battlefield to get stats for a map"?

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

EclecticTastes posted:

Now I'm imagining the unit that uses it getting to do sweet kickflips and ollies on their robot-sized skateboard.



Reminder that G Gundam is amazing.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

EclecticTastes posted:

I think Gundam Maxter's hoverboard is more of a surfboard than skateboard, which of course means that in theory, Chibodee Crockett could hang with the Eureka 7 crew and now I want that to be in the next SRW after X.

Eurgh, no thank you. I had my fill of E7 in Z and Z2. Especially Z2.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
It has more to do with how much forced deploy they have and how frustrating their secrets are, which is why I don't mind Daitarn and Zambot so much (they're rarely forced deploys unless the plot is involved, which it is in Z so whatever). It's like saying "water stages" to anyone who played OG1.

Also this is more of me having a whinge but Eureka has much better stats and spells than Renton and a better cut-in and you lose her almost immediately because mech series require male pilots in the lead mech. That being said, the Devilfish's finishers in Z2 do look amazing.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

EclecticTastes posted:

Personally, I disliked E7 in Z2 because it had literally none of the fantastic music that made me like the Eureka 7 stuff in the first place, and what it did have wasn't very good.

Otokko no Tatakae is awesome though! It's the other theme and the MOKYUUUUUN...


Ethiser posted:

The ability to use custom soundtracks in V made it way easier to add the good Zeta music to the game.

You could actually do this in Z3 as well, and much more easily at that (since the PS3 lets you load music onto it by default, unlike the PS4). I think you might be able to do it in OGMD but I haven't tried because... why would you?

And that's why Hibiki spent 95% of Z3.1 with an arrange of X vs Zero as his bgm...

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
Everything I've heard about Demonbane VN is that it's completely insane and knows it; I really need to get around to reading it.

Still holding out for the day that we get Muv-Luv in our SRW... :negative:

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

EclecticTastes posted:

I just looked Muv Luv up and for context for people who don't know, it's also porn.

It's... sorta porn? It has pornographic scenes but (with one exception) they reek of "this was included solely because people expect VNs to be porn". The real meat is in the character development.

And the awesome robots. I wouldn't put the actual core Muv-Luv in, but Total Eclipse (anime version) or The Day After would both be great. Muv-Luv mechs are mostly based on IRL military aircraft; Total Eclipse is basically Top Gun with giant robots. And the animated Su-47 is amazing beyond all belief. (It was an Su-37 in the VN but the anime gave the Scarlet Twins an Su-37 by default and had them upgrade into an Su-47 when they got their Four on.)

There's also a joke sidestory VN which is Muv-Luv but with Saint Seiya and G Gundam, and the final hero mecha is a Susanowo made by combining three fighter jets. It's amazing.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

Brunom1 posted:

: I need to be careful not to push that engine into running amuck…! Would it be possible to just cause it to shut down?

Even though it's pronounced "amuck" it's written "amok" because English. I think it's probably the same principal as the word "havoc", but realistically it's because English makes no loving sense.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
It worked for the EFF!

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
I'm actually pretty fond of the Hiraiface in Fafner since it's more stylized (really strong blush stickers, sharper chins, glossier hair, more pronounced face structure so there's less sameface). It works pretty reasonably in Cross Ange as well, which is ironic since most of the cast of Cross Ange is basically interchangeable.

That aside, manga Linebarrels looks a lot less Whinebarrels so I'm gonna look forward to more of rear end in a top hat Protagonist Guy.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
Cross Ange has great music and appears to have been gone in on solely as a troll by pretty much every voice actress involved (almost everyone involved is either close with Mizuki Nana or is Gundam alumni, or both). It's absolute hot garbage, but it's worth watching with your MST3k glasses on. It does have some stellar moments (Sala challenges Ange to a tiebreaker match involving an age-old contest of physicality... Twister), the quality of the show goes up dramatically once Embryo arrives (he's ridiculously powerful, knows it, abuses it, gleefully screws with people by respawning offscreen and walking in the door when killed, which makes him much more entertaining to watch than the rest of the show), and a key component of the final battle involves Ange's love interest rubbing it in the villain's face that he hosed her.

So it's garbage, but it's "haha this is loving terrible what will they gently caress up next" garbage. It's great in SRW V thanks to SRW not being poo poo; in V it gets paired with Destiny and promotes Hilda to Ange's actual love interest (Hilda is voiced by Tamura Yukari, probably best-known for voicing Nanoha... Mizuki also said she wanted Tamura to cook for her in naked apron, take that as you will, those two are a thing), and has an excellent mix of characters being less poo poo and people reacting amazingly to Embryo's everything, notably Saotome comes back from the loving dead for one mission and spends most of it telling Embryo that he's poo poo.

My favorite part might be Athrun having to deal with the lesbian trio immediately latching onto him, though ("Athrun-sama~"). Even Kira gives him poo poo about it. Kira.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
Sadly they took the SD Gundams out of G-Generation OVERWorld so I won't get a chance to show them off in my LP. You get Lu Bu at like 10% unlock rate and putting him in a Tallgeese turns it into the Lu Bu Tallgeese which is just hilariously overpowered on early stages. [TAMASHIIIIIIIIII intensifies]

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

Inferno-sama posted:

I will grant his loyalty to his men being one of his positive characteristics, but Gato honestly feels like he's loyalty gone too far.

I feel like that's probably the intent of the character, but that's a positive trait in traditional Japanese and American culture, which probably explains his popularity on both sides of the pond. That, and the epic "SOLOMON, I HAVE RETURNED" scene.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

Onmi posted:

Because he's "Loyal" and like to me and you and our cultures, we see that and go "gently caress right off. She betrayed the villains." It's the same mindset that causes the whole "Fight honorably even in the face of nuclear armageddon, to give up after that makes you a COWARD!" mentality that pervades the Jingo nuts of Japan.

Not for nothing but that attitude is pretty pervasive in America as well, especially post-9/11 America. It's more a human thing in general to prize loyalty to a faction above loyalty to oneself (which is usually seen as selfish), presumably since humans are basically pack animals. There's also one other thing about Cima:

She killed the protagonist's mentor. Survival rates aren't great for characters who do that, recruitment rates are less-so.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
That was the best part of the movie, too.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI
Worth it for having that come up verbatim in Z2.2 though... I actually thought 00S2 was better than S1, despite obviously being worse from the perspective of good writing, because it at least comitted to being a super robot show, whereas S1 was extremely schizophrenic and just couldn't decide what it was going to do. It doesn't help that S1 starts out by making a big deal out of things like logistics and limited numbers and so on and then immediately introduces CB using literal throwaway beam weapons and other items (at least they had the grace to have this come back to bite them, but that disappeared basically 1/3 of the way into S1).

Can we at least agree that the 00 Gundam is a really good design? (Not the Raiser version, that's garbage.)

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

GimmickMan posted:

Other people already covered what was up with 00, so I'm just going to say that I will defend the honor of Final Mission Quantum Burst (and most of the 00 OST for that matter) until my dying breath. There's a reason they keep using battle tracks from the series in addition to their various openings and that's because they're drat good.

I wouldn't complain if we got Tozasareta Sekai in place of Envoy From Jupiter though.

Yeah nobody is complaining about 00's soundtrack. It's like Tsubasa Chronicle or Gundam SEED Destiny, the show may be garbage but goddamn the OST is fantastic.

Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

EclecticTastes posted:

I kinda like Frontier, based on only seeing it in SRW, but even I'm kinda tired of them. Then again, I would be happiest if Macross 7 was in every single SRW for the rest of time, so that's where I'm at regarding Macross.

Watch the movie versions; it'll save you time and they're really good. (You should also watch the last episode of the anime for the Nyan Nyan Service Medley, which the final battle is choreographed to.)

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Ace of Aces
Feb 25, 2017

ZENRYOKU ZENKAI

EclecticTastes posted:

What pisses me off is we get Aimo but we have never gotten My Soul for You or Remember Sixteen. I get that Fire Bomber is expensive but, actually, why the hell is Frontier so much cheaper that they can include like thirty-two songs in every game? Did Studio Nue score a better deal with the talent that time?

Part of the problem with the Fire Bomber stuff is that the artists who provided the music belonged to different labels and the actual vocal music was released under like, three different labels, so you have to do a shitload of negotiating. Frontier kept all the music in one label, which is how SRW is able to get away with using so much music from it.

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