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  Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP91_mCYThQ Final Fantasy Brave Exvius is a mobile F2P RPG from Square-Enix and the makers of Brave Frontier. Released Globally in the summer of 2016, and in Japan 8 months before that. It shares some minor similarities with Final Fantasy Record Keeper but it's mostly Brave Frontier with a huge coating of Final Fantasy. Using given story characters and heroes from classic FF games you form a 5-man squad to run through dungeons, fight super bosses, and even other player teams in an Arena. Your story is standard Final Fantasy fare with an evil force destroying crystals, but the music is really good. Some of the art, specifically the animated backgrounds are really quite beautiful if you stop to pay attention to them. Some of the sprites are better than others, and some have some very fun and enjoyable animations. Combat should feel right at home to fans of the FF series, particularly of the Nintendo era. This thread is focused on the Global version of the game but there are some goons that play on the JP version as well. Gameplay  Every 5 minutes you get 1 NRG, which is the stamina that you’ll spend to play most of the content. This is pretty standard with most mobile games and yes you can spend premium currency to refresh your NRG to your max, and also buy refreshes from bundles which is helpful for new players as you can extend over your max. Similarly, you have a rank which determines your maximum NRG level, as you complete content you’ll gain EXP that will increase your rank. Like many other games of its type, Exvius has daily login rewards, daily quests that reward a bit of Lapis (premium currency), and a constantly revolving door of events. There are three areas where you’ll be spending your time playing the game: 1) Story dungeons, towns and explorations. Dungeons consists of sequential battles with no break in between. Explorations are open areas where you wander around, find hidden treasure, and fight enemies in random battles. In both cases at the end of an exploration, or at the end of a dungeon there will be a battle with a boss during which you’ll need to employ more skills and tactics using your party’s abilities to win. As you get further into the story mode, bosses can become very challenging however. Towns do not consume NRG to visit and are essentially Explorations without battles. NPCs in both explorations and towns can offer quests which may have you retreading an exploration to fight a hidden enemy, delivering an item to someone, or killing a certain number of a specific enemy; some quests have very nice rewards and are worth doing. 2) The Vortex: This is an area with limited time dungeons(including Raids), limited time explorations and the ‘Chambers’. Just about every week there is something new, or something old brought back, in the Vortex. These can be event dungeons based on a specific FF game, a unique series of battles that tells a side story in the Exvius world, or even a Raid where players kill a boss repeatedly earning more and more raid currency as the kill count rises. Also in the Vortex are the ‘Chambers’. There are two types of Chambers: The Chamber of the Fallen(aka Trials) where you’ll fight very difficult bosses for very good gear and rewards, and the Chambers of Desires which you can open 1 during a 24 hour period and will reward with you a variety of things such as awakening mats to raise the star level of your characters, ability awakening mats which allow you to increase certain abilities of characters(aka Enhancement), or just generally helpful things like Gil(the non-premium currency) or EXP. 3) The Arena is an area that does not use NRG but is instead participated in using orbs. These orbs regenerate at 1/hour and max at 5 no matter your rank. The arena has two parts, the primary arena is where you’ll match your team up against other player’s teams. The other team is automated and it’s entirely random what they do, but you’ll get to choose your attacks. The other section of the arena is the Coliseum where you’ll fight your way through harder and harder monsters getting rewards at each plateau.  What is combat like? Combat is typical turn based FF style combat. When it’s your turn, choose an action for each character, resolve the actions in whatever order you like, and then watch and see what the enemy does: repeat until one side is dead. There are obviously some more nuances to combat than this, but If you actually like combat in the FF games when it’s more about using a variety of different party configurations and skills to win, then this game is for you.  This sounds awesome, what’s the catch? Like most mobile games everything is free to a point. There is only a single character locked behind a paywall so that’s not too bad, but almost every other character is attained completely randomly. Each character has a base rarity ranging between 3★-5★ for premium characters and 1★-3★ for “friend point units”(these are all garbage outside their TMs). When you pull a character from the premium pool you do so with the following odds: 78% of your draws will be a 3★ character, 19% will be a 4★ character, and only 3% of them will be a 5★ character. I’ll bet you can guess which ones are the best. This means that if your favorite character is one of the rare (5★ base) characters, there’s a pretty darn good chance that you’ll never get that character as there is no way to purchase a specific character. 6* characters are available for many blues, golds and all rainbows; requiring farmable materials to upgrade. In the future base 7* characters will be introduced and are achieved by fusing two of the same base 5*. This is a fairly recent development in JP so there’s no guarantee the system will be the exact same by the time it hits GL. Furthermore getting ‘rolls’ on the gacha is pretty expensive all things considered. $100 USD translates into 18,000 Lapis. For 5000 Lapis you can get 11 rolls one of which will be guaranteed a 4★ or better character, you can spend 250 Lapis once per day for a single roll, or you can spend 500 Lapis for a single roll (never do this). However, the game does have a few positives in this regard, first being that there are banners which increase the drop rate for specific characters by a fairly significant degree and the game also gives out a fair amount of summoning tickets which can be saved and used for a free roll at any time. The other big negative of the game is that there is a terrible reward system for using a unit frequently called Trust Mastery(TM). Each unit has a Trust value that has a 10% chance of increasing by .1% every battle. When a unit gets to 100% you get their Trust Master Reward(TMR) which is typically some of the best gear in the game. This system is incredibly slow through the normal course of play (My lightning which as of this writing I’ve been using very frequently for 8 months is around 35%) and initially forced players to do what’s called “Macroing”. Macroing is using an emulator to have the game autoplay itself on your PC, typically done by players at night while they sleep. Doing this, players are able to send their characters into battle more frequently and thus level their trust faster. The designers eventually created Trust Moogles which are units that can be merged into other units to increase their trust by 1%/5%/10%, but are typically high end mission rewards in tough battles, or moderately priced event currency purchases. Essentially if you aren’t TM Macroing, you’re characters are never going to come close to reaching their potentials and you’ll find high end content impossible. Note that this system does not require you to spend premium currency but you can speed up the process with it; this is inadvisable for new players who have a lot NRG cap. So that’s it. If you can handle random luck of the draw in getting good units and you don’t mind setting up an automated system on your PC to grind the best gear for you while you sleep; you can handle the worst this game has to offer!  If you want to join us, download it from your respective Apple/Android store, but DO NOT sync it with your primary Facebook account until you have read the next post.
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 ★★★★ IMPORTANT ★★★★★ REROLL UNTIL YOU GET A GOOD RAINBOW CHARACTER For complete information on how to reroll, click here. This might take a while (as in an hour or more) There’s a lot of debate about what units are worth keeping but generally people seem to agree that rolling a good chainer is the most important. Popular chain units include: Veritas of the Dark, Orlandeau, Onion Knight (ATK) Trance Terra and Barbariccia (MAG). However; units like Noctis, Ayaka, and some of the limited time seasonal event units may be worth keeping. In many ways there are a lot of options for units and builds in the game now, so rolling for multiple base 5* units can be better than a single good one. Be patient, use an emulator so you can do a lot of rolls at the same time and sit on accounts that roll decently so you don’t have to give up a roll, and ask in the thread if you think you might have gotten a good spread. With the release of 7* characters, many previously outdated characters got a boost back into the spotlight but not all of them will be good now. With the rainbow increase and Gumi being a bit looser with the purse strings, good characters are popping up more often so even if your starting roll isn’t as bad as it was before. That said, the only thing standing between you and a top tier character is your patience level; so I really advise you to try and get one. The list of 7* capable characters, excluding GE ones, in order of aggregated rankings from top JP sites is:
As of 3/20 ----------------------- Once you’ve rolled a good unit, link the account to your primary Facebook account and this will forever associate them. Next time you reinstall the app, choose the login with Facebook option and it will bring back this account. Next step you’ll want to do is get your friend ID; located by clicking ‘Menu’ on the home page, then clicking ‘Player Info’. Take that code and add it to the Goon Friends Google Doc, add anyone on there that has open slots (make sure to write something ‘Goony’ as your greeting so people know you’re a goon friend), then for good measure post it in the forum and introduce yourself. People will add you and you can use our powerful allies to help coast through most content. ------------------------------------ Once you’re done that bit of prep, you’re ready to start playing the game. New players should focus on doing the story. The story will unlock a few more characters, you’ll get a lot of gear and crafting materials along the way, unlock recipes to craft gear and helpful materia, and by completing the missions in each area you’ll also earn a lot of Lapis. Which you could either use to refresh your NRG to keep grinding the story or just horde for unit pulls. Check the wiki as you go and make sure you talk to everyone as the Espers are hidden and require you to chat up townsfolk to open up their locations on the world map. Espers are very good and important things, which when connected to a unit and leveled will not only enhance that unit’s stats but also give that unit whatever abilities you’ve unlocked by leveling the Esper. Some of these abilities are very strong, make sure you try and unlock all the unique abilities that each Esper has. Click here to read the Exvius Wiki Getting Started post. [  There is always some event going on in the Vortex but as a new player it might be impossible for you to compete alone. Ask in the thread and see what units can carry what difficulties. Typically, a top tier unit, wielding the best gear, can solo all difficulties up to and including PRO. Depending on the event, ELT may be possible as well. Check in the thread, ask for advice on how to do the events (what skills to use with what units), and don’t try to go in without a good friend unit because you’ll get destroyed at lower levels and you’ll just waste your time and NRG. Eventually your units will hit a cap on their level and need to be awakened. The materials to go up to 5★ are available from story missions or from the Chamber of Awakening. The materials needed to go from 5★-> 6★ are not available via grinding a vortex or through story missions. They are available either by purchasing a bundle with Lapis(not advisable unless you’re impatient) or waiting for a King Mog event (Highly Advisable). King Mog events occur every month for 2 weeks and will see you grinding battles in the Vortex and accumulating event currency which can be traded for a variety of things, but there will always be a supply of 6★ awakening mats for purchase. Other things new players should know: Do your daily quests, completing 5 of them is worth 50 Lapis. Use your Arena orbs. They are refreshed 1/hr. Use the first 5 you get every day to do Arena battles against other players’ teams don’t worry about losing, you’ll still get the daily rewards (40 Lapis and 1 Star Quartz are the important rewards). Use subsequent orbs to fight your way through the Coliseum section. The Coliseum has some Lapis rewards as well as some other decent rewards. Expeditions are side content similar to the expeditions in Final Fantasy Tactics. You choose some units to go do a job, spend some materials to increase the success chance, then those units become unavailable for a set amount of time, 3 to 24 hours, after which they return and either bring you back some relics and different rewards or fail and bring you back nothing. Relics are quite good for crafting a very nice materia but they aren’t something you’ll be able to really do early on in the game. However try to cycle them each day, doing the lower level ones (C&D level) as you can get some good rewards for weekly relic totals. Go do the story, pop your head in the thread and ask questions, have fun. Don't be like this guy. 
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 Important Links Wiki - https://www.exviuswiki.com THIS IS YOUR NEW BEST FRIEND, BOOKMARK IT!
Goon Friend List – https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PBoE56CzVaq1L8WE4sMeBhkoEByummcaU-8qMIFfZLI/edit#gid=0 Add goons and let them carry you to victory. Exvius Goon Discord Channel – https://discord.gg/Jx9b6Rt – If you need immediate help, ask here. Exvius Macros Webpage – http://www.ffbemacro.com/ – After reddit drama, the current developer of the macros that we all use and love has founded his own site, keep up to date there. Unit Build Calculator - http://ffbeequip.lyrgard.fr/builder.html – Fantastic online site where you can build units with many different parameters. Also tells you the expected average damage of attacks so you can actually see how effective your gear choices will be. Unit Max Damage List – https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QDbQBT9cEAkfWnF7xMjYUpcKKYdtRk9aFQz9V1d6XtY/preview#gid=279899472 – Use this to see what the highest damage rates are in the game. Compared your unit to the best and cry. Unit Awakening Planner – https://pardoman.github.io/ffbeawakeningplanner/ – Use this to see how many of each 6★ material you need. Unfortunately, it’s out of date. Odds Calculator for pulls - http://ffbe-oddsbitch.danposluns.com/??x=7&y=0&z=0 - Use this to see what your odds of getting a banner unit is over X number of different pulls. Evasion/Dodge - https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Evasion – Here is a list of all items/units/materia that can help you get a 100% dodge unit. This is a helpful thing to have. IMPORTANT INFORMATION Server resets at 0000 PDT. Maintenence is Thursday Morning. Banners Change on Friday Morning. Leveling a free summon to max and selling them gives decent gil (1★ = 4,400 | 2★ = 15,000 | 3★ - 32,000) Most of the bundles are AWFUL. Don't buy them. IF there is an exception, it will be posted about in the thread. The NRG packages are alright if you're low rank and really want to keep playing. Don’t chase banner units. The rates for Blue(3 ★)/Gold(4 ★)/Rainbow(5 ★) characters are 78%/19%/3%, and the chances of it being a banner unit are 19%/4.75%/1.5% How do I ‘get gud’? Learn how to chain and finish(aka Chain Capping). This is a pretty decent video that explains how it works. Note that most chainers work best with another copy of the same unit due to how their attacks are staggered.  On top of that, exploit elemental weaknesses with elemental weapons. Keep ATK/MAG buffed. Use debuffs whenever possible; even Imperil and Deprotect, which are learned by many Espers, can increase damage significantly. I got two of the same chainers but I can't hit 20+ chains, what's the deal? Each unit has a different frame delay between when you hit the button and when they launch into their attack. Each attack also has a set number of frames between each hit. This is regardless of animation preferences so don't worry if you turned on/off the animations. Most units have a consistent number of frames between each hit, but some have differing numbers of frames which make them difficult to chain, even if the attack itself has a large number of hits. Sometimes this just occurs at the end of an attack, like in the case of Tidus, but other times it can alternate throughout the animation; as in the case of Fryevia. If you are using two units that are the same, and each is using the same skill, then you just need to press the buttons as fast as you possibly can. In the example linked above, 2 Setzers using 'Red card', to perfectly chain like they do, need to be pressed within 3 FRAMES(not seconds) of each other. Each unit also has a delay between when you activate them and when the first hit lands. You'll want to keep track of that because then you can figure out how long before you'll need to activate your finisher. HERE IS A GOOGLE SPREADSHEET WITH THE CHAIN DATA OF ALL UNITS THAT YOU SHOULD BE TRYING TO CHAIN. You can use the first tab to match abilities against one another to see how their frames overlay. While it’s advisable to just use a unit with the same frames, units with different frame data can work with each other. Now, once you've found a couple units that have similar frames, actually chaining them is...well not necessarily easy. If you're on Android you can use a magnification trick to help you chain perfectly, but if you're on iOS you can do a couple techniques(ask in the thread and post what device you're using). However, there is another way. Using macros on Nox/Memu will allow you to chain perfectly everytime, and you can even use this handy website to generate the macro for you so you don't have to mess around with editing the timestamps. Should I roll for on this banner? The GL meta is shaking up a bit differently, but not too differently. One thing of note is that Global Exclusive units tend to be very good. Forums user Varance maintains an database of characters both current and upcoming with aggregate ratings from the popular sites, check it out by clicking here. A lot of posters will come out and make announcements when certain units, like Mystea, are coming out that everyone should get a copy of. Many users also follow Reddit and other places which run the numbers on how good characters are, and will report that back. I used to maintain a top roles list in this section but really there isn’t one character that’s always going to be ahead of another one in every instance so what you’re best doing is just trying to fill the holes in your team. JP also gets exclusive units that we don’t get, and vice versa. There are also event exclusive characters that don’t make it into the general pool which tend to be rated highly, so there’s not really a point making a list of characters that you can’t pull. In short, I recommend checking Varance’s rating database but mostly making decisions on who to pull for by asking the question “What role does this character fill in my party?”. I've heard that Killer effects are better than straight ATK, is that true? Yes, a killer effect is applied after some of the other damage calculations and is roughly equal to 2.34% ATK against an enemy of that type. However some enemies are multiple types which makes them less effective. Killer effects don't obviously add to your ATK total but don't discount them, they're much better than straight attack in most situations. In particular, Trials and Event bosses are situations where you'll want to show up stacking killers. I've heard X doesn't stack? This is an outdated phrase that was popularized by JP players coming over to GL. In Global we have some Materia with the 'unstackable' tag, meaning that you can only equip one of that specific named materia. Because those materia could stack in Japan and the similarity of terms, people quickly became confused that similar effects couldn't stack(example: Ifrit's Beast Killer and a Beast Killer Materia), however then people changed the phrasing to say that "different sources could stack", the easy way to think about it is that "Everything stacks, except unstackable materia." Meaning you can't have two Dragon Killer materia, because those are unstackable, but you can have Dragon Killer and Dragon Killer+ because those are materia with different names. Previous thread located here 
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MohShuvuu posted:What was it that made Tidus a God for ice bird again? Probably innate bird killer. He can also use throwing weapons a lot of which also have Bird Killer. Here's a Tidus, Tidus, Ayaka, Wilhelm, Mystea team. Lot of TMRs but not that many base 5* ones. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Clear off 10 inactives 763,793,980 CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:They will if they want to stay on the App Store... I think the joke is that whenever anyone asks Gumi these type of questions the reply is "Sqenix made us do it." which is of course parroted by the sheep on Reddit because of course Square micromanages a company that runs a bunch of mobile cash cows and tells them how to milk their fanbase. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Did the ELT bird but forgot about the Esper kill and since it was my second try just said screw it. That materia isn't going anywhere and I never use those offensive materia anyway. I went the Tidus route but took OK just in case. Reset a couple times so Mystea would cover someone other than Ayaka. Made it through finally with 2x Tidus and Ayaka still alive, and it was easy street from there. This trial sucks because it was a combination of "hp TMR check" and awful RNG. I can handle the TMR check but this is going to be a hard one to get through for a lot of people.
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After doing the bird last night, I went back and pushed that Moon's poo poo in. Roy with 9k hp was singing, 9k hp Ayaka was healing and near constantly reraising poor Mystea who even with a bunch of HP +30% materia is woefully low on HP and I've already fed her a 100 points worth of pots. Rikku was switching between her LB and POD shield then finished with Bahamut for Trance Terra and CryHavoc's Trance Terra. He may have left us but his Trance Terra is still drat useful. Between Ayaka and Roy I was constantly topped off with mp. drat this bard is a hell of a thing, I gotta grind out another 2 Spirit of Freedoms so he and Ayaka can get them again, what a good TMR that is. Should probably get onto that but I'll finish my current TMR squad before I tackle that just so it's no hassle.
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Tall Tale Teller posted:It's really cute if gumi expects me to grind for this garbage a hundred candy canes at a time. It appears that the story quests are going to have escalating costs as well making the grind that much worse. Best to wait for next week and hopefully they'll unveil a harder difficulty that rewards canes by the thousands. It's funny because it's roughly the same amount of currency you'd get in a normal King Mog event but because there are no bonus units you realize how awful those events really are. I really would have liked those pots too. I'm not even sure the 4* ticket is worth the 67 runs it would take to get it. The Halloween skeleton key event by comparison was way better than this crap.
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My TMR squad, for the first time in a long time, is all A~ list talent. Darklord, Ayaka #2, Roy, Cloud and Elfreeda. It's one of the few times I've been able to send my team to also do other poo poo and I'm not worried about them ending up constantly wiping in Fina's Psyche. Unforunately Dark Lord is almost done and will be replaced by someone far less able to tag with a friend for chaining. It's been nice while it lasted though.
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Dana Crysalis posted:Absolute Zero: 40-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5 Here's a list of 5* people with normal 5 frame delay moves: 2B (R050: Spear) 22,5,5,5,5,5 A2 (Heal Combo) 35,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5 K. Delita (Thunder) 42,5,5,5,5,5 Orlandu (Thunder) 42,5,5,5,5,5 Prishe (Raging Fists) 2,5,5,5,5,5,5,5
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fullTimeLurker posted:Would someone mind putting up a VoD with ribbon and pod153. Going to try and kill Marlboro tonight I can but I'm not fully potted, but I'll TMR him out though. Do the same and I'll give it a run as well. Tonitrus Virtuous Contact Imperial Helm Demon Mail Pod 153 Genji Glove Large Sword Mastery SSP-Dark Katana Mastery Discernment Only 857 ATK. I need to get some pots in this guy... PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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Quality Control posted:I threw mine up. 376364143 in cases we're not already friends. He's got Dandelga equipped but I can swap in Tonitrus if you prefer lightning damage. I can throw Tonitrus on mine, or I can use Hoemaru. Edit: Changed to Tonitrus because my Hoemaru is stuck in an expedition. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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fullTimeLurker posted:Okay gently caress the VoD route.... only doing 10% damage a round with pod153. Spent 45 minutes and Gmalboro was still at 72% health. Up. 110% dark resist and 1058 MAG. Tengames posted:can do, just hold on a second. Added. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Dec 27, 2017 |
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fullTimeLurker posted:What an unfun shitshow. Marlboro is such a piece of poo poo. 3 hours wasted and can’t get him below 9%. Between him eating and beserking my tank, and then just getting 500 moves a turn to wipe out everyone else, it’s just a miserable boss battle. At least the rewards are pretty missable. Regarding who to save for I think CG Sakura is definitely who you want to drop pulls on. I'd like Beatrix because she is cool but she's on a double 5 banner and she's really not very good all things considered.
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fullTimeLurker posted:What an unfun shitshow. Marlboro is such a piece of poo poo. 3 hours wasted and can’t get him below 9%. Between him eating and beserking my tank, and then just getting 500 moves a turn to wipe out everyone else, it’s just a miserable boss battle. Just completed it.  Used CryHavoc's T.T. once again. T.T., Ayaka, Roy, Warrior of Light, Mystea and T.T. MVP of this fight was Mystea but Roy was right there with her. Thanks to Mysty my units took no damage from the AOEs, Mystea only had 7k life but thanks to defending and POD 158 Shield via WoL, she went down, maybe once with 100% dark resist. Thanks to Roy's Victory for the Brave, I could very easily drop the adds in 2 turns which allowed me to just wreck the thing once I got below 50%. I got Ifrit out of the way via WoL in the first phase and then he alternated between using his enhanced provoke and POD 153 shield. The first half dozen times I did this trial, Trance Terra always died from random hits or whatever, and it threw off my rotation which was GG. My T.T. had 4.5k hp and never took more than a scratch. Ayaka largely topped off WoL and Mystea every turn and alternated ReRaise on them just for added protection. Last turn was Roy singing his jolly song as T.T.s chained into Ayaka's Bahamut and WoL's unleveled LB(for the mission). While Mystea relaxed, because for now: her job was done. GG Malboro.
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fullTimeLurker posted:Congrats! First phase I timed it on the 1st, 5th, 9th, and 13th rounds and 16th rounds. I made sure to always kill the adds on the 4th turn to turn off devour, and would then use my next action to reapply the MA, which is a little counter intuitive since you would think you'd want to be using that round to deal damage to Malboro but by only doing one phase of damage to him, it was easy to control his HP descent and got him to exactly 50% on turn 13. I used it again on turn 16 just to buy a turn so I wouldn't run right into Tentacles Rampage. Once I went below 50% on turn 17, I killed the adds on 18, which again turned off devour and setup to kill them again on 20, and actually had to do a single chaos wave on 19 just to ensure I wiped everyone on 20. In previous runs I'd been using Rikku and decided to run Roy since I figured that with Mystea tanking I could get by on Ayaka's reraise. Roy providing the break to the adds made them very easy to 2 shot; was doing like 80% damage to them. I could have used Wilhelm instead and been even better off in the physical tanking department but I thought I was going to need WoL for the breaks. Mystea was at 115% dark resist from Diablos(50%), Black Mask (15%), and Angel's Earrings(50%), also using a Ribbon and Minerva Bustier; weapon was the holy wand replica. 7556 hp from 90 points in pots and 4x HP 30% materia(3 Patriotic Recall, and a Thirst for Survival). After the Dark Esper event I saw that Dark Resist doesn't show up a lot so I hoarded Freyas and ground out 2 Angel's Earrings. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Dec 27, 2017 |
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werdnam posted:I don't have Ayaka or T. Terra, but I do have Roy and Christine. Do you think I have a chance with a party of Cagnazzo, Roy, Mystea, Christine, friend Christine, and a healer? No Tillith, but I have Yshtola and Refia and Luka (enhanced) with a Dualcast to spare if it helps. I don't see why Christine wouldn't be a fine replacement for T.Terra. Cagnazzo is probably fine too, you really just need someone with a lot of life that can provoke 100%. Each turn Mystea eats a bunch of damage from the AOEs while the other tank provokes the rest of the damage. Healer wise, I think the most important thing was reraise and full raise during the first couple turns while I got the rotation setup on the tanks. Mystea was always T.Wall, Defend, Defend, repeat. WoL was Provoke, POD 153 Shield, repeat. You could probably get by with Refia DC but the early rounds could be a bit rough. Once I had my tanks stabilized I had no fear of either taking enough damage they'd die and since they'd take most of the damage I wasn't worried about Roy, or Trance Terra dying and throwing off my rotation with them. I won't lie, this is tough as balls trial that took me many tries and luck with having very good units and a dozens of awesome TMRs.
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Noctis #1. Finally.
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Nobody told me the worst part of this Sheratan fight was having to replay it a million times to spawn the esper orbs. This would probably be a lot easier if I hadn't forgotten to give Wilhelm paralysis protection. Grrr... Oh and also the ffbe chain macro generator doesn't seem to work right for Bahamut finishing, swell.
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Finally got that drat Sheratan down. Should have just gone slow from the beginning of phase two but I kept trying to wipe the thing in one go. Much easier when I took out both the fruits then wiped the tree. Got all the missions, despite my blowing the chain in the last attempt, bahamut still managed to finish the job. Evil Fluffy posted:There are people in this thread who didn't get a 5* base until the crystal changes took place. I know I was trolled by multiple non 5* rainbows and others ITT got burned worse than I did. I still have my rainbow Lenna of Shame sitting in my box where she will remain level one and untouched forever as well. I got burned on 2 rainbows, Charlotte and Hayate. Thankfully the second rainbow I pulled was Lightning, off banner no less. Wasn't it Dana or Rabidsquid that went like 3 months into the rainbow change with their only base 5* being Ramza? PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Dec 28, 2017 |
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fullTimeLurker posted:What a slog. Just finished it. That was miserable. And somehow even though I didn't have any offensive Limit Bursts I managed to complete that part of it by using a Esper Summon in the final combo. So I guess Limit Burst or Esper Finish works? Congratulations! Even though this and Sheratan were both awful and required multiple retries and resetting a lot of turns. Winning after 4 hours spent grinding away at it does feel very satisfying.
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1/2 was Wilhelm #3. Can't say I'm too excited about that. I guess if I pull a 4th then I'll have a super cool TMR. I definitely don't need 3 of his shield though, hell I don't even think I need a second of his shield.
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Nuebot posted:So what's the record for getting the same garbage unit in a single roll? Because I fooled myself into thinking I could roll a Noel and, well; I had 6 Conrads I'm sure people have beaten that though.
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Ran the gingerbread man trial twice because I forgot about the 5 man mission. 2 OKs, Ayaka casting reraise on Mystea, and Roy's singing meant I had no issues.
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Office Thug posted:Oh, are you talking about the regular boss ones you encounter in the new candy cane events? I was talking about the event boss, he can't be SPR/DEF-broken and deals an insta-KO magic attack on the first turn that heals him for 20% of his HP. I've come very close to one-turning him with OK + friend OK, 2x DV, Roy buffing ATK, and Ace imperiling light. I could probably pull a OTKO if I had a friend OK that used excalibur instead of Aigion's arm or whatever the gently caress. Don't forget Demon Killer stuff. People usually over look those on these events. My OK has 4 sources of it stacked on him. I can almost output the 1.8 million damage just from him to knock out the story boss. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Dec 29, 2017 |
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Office Thug posted:Yes! Shockingly, I found that 976 ATK with 200% demon killer is, in fact, better than a BiS general kit with almost 1200 ATK on Onion Bro. Killers make a much bigger difference than people think! *TRUE* BIS on Onion Knight is 939 ATK  Almost worth pulling a second Elfreeda for.
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Office Thug posted:Oh yeah, only talking about the conventional DW build. But I did pull two Elfreedas so I'm working on that Fixed Dice 2x Marshall Glove + Buster Form build for him I got Cloud and Elfreeda and the math works out to being a bit higher than the fist damage I can do now. Although I think the chain bonus damage from Onion Cutter makes up for it. I want to check it out just because OK is such a rad little unit that's so drat versatile.
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Agreed posted:Expeditions were a really good idea. I get so much use out of that feature. It's contributed more to my Tough and Burst pots than anything else, and who doesn't like Adventurer? I just wish they'd make Lunar Curtains and those other random consumables purchasable from shops. Which reminds me, I'm up to 10 of each of the Hero Ring + versions and haven't seen a single Dominon ring mat drop.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:He's kind of like Wilhelm, he's a tank but with magic counterattack's, IIRC. They should bring it back. I've got a great line up and there's more stuff I want to spend money on this year so my FFBE budget right now is $0, but I'd make an exception for a monthly fountain deal.
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Kheldarn posted:Last Daily Half of 2017? Blue > Exdeath #10. My haul in December was Roy, Darklord, Cloud, Elfreeda, Wilhelm #2 & #3, Noctis, and Knight Delita #2. Looking at the 7* list, I guess I need to start leveling Knight Delita's LB, I'm set on Tanks and Healers, so I hope between now and then I pull a copy of Roy, and one of Tidus/Orlandeau/VotD/OK.
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Office Thug posted:So, I have 2 Krylas and her TMR looks pretty baller for Mystea: 15% SPR, 25% all resists (the highest resists on any materia), and 1 LB per turn. It's like a straight upgrade from Mystea's own TMR. Generally go for SPR and HP. Keep enough resist materia around to fill out whatever you can't cover in gear. Even if we see some four fiends-esque fight where they do nothing but throw different elemental attacks at you, Gumi knows their audience well enough that they'll throw in some elementless, high damage skills just to prevent you walking through it with an AOE tank wearing 100% elemental resistance gear.
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hagie posted:One 5% moogle for all that poo poo seems like such a drat slap in the face. It's so funny that it's a 5% because even a 10% I could have grumblingly accepted but a 5% is a big old middle finger from Gumi as they laugh their way to the bank.
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As someone pointed out it's great on Wilhelm as well as it basically trades being hit with blind for 10% hp compared to Discernment/Goddess Protection.
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