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Captain Monkey
Aug 23, 2007



Aardvark! posted:

Agreed

the constant birthday gifts are kind of ridiculous

I liked how in the third book they eventually just went ‘and my friends got me books’ because even the author got tired of it.

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Aardvark!
Mar 3, 2002



i think my other big complaint is Godrick's accent is .. what, African? Scandinavian? No matter how I read the text I can't find an accent that fits how he writes their speech so it always bogs me down

Staggy
Mar 20, 2008

Said little bitch, you can't fuck with me if you wanted to
These expensive
These is red bottoms
These is bloody shoes


I always read it as generic Scottish, though I might be misremembering.

I think the early books in the series definitely read like someone's first novel(s). They become noticeably more polished over time. I'm tempted to go back and do a re-read of Traveller's Gate (which I think is Will's first series?) and make that comparison, rather than to Cradle.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Yeah I read the accent as Scottish too

But also that way of writing the pronunciation in the accent really annoyed me. I much prefer how Will Wight makes Yerin sounds folksy by giving her all these idioms

Captain Monkey
Aug 23, 2007



Cicero posted:

Yeah I read the accent as Scottish too

But also that way of writing the pronunciation in the accent really annoyed me. I much prefer how Will Wight makes Yerin sounds folksy by giving her all these idioms

Very same. I’m always annoyed by phonetic accents though, even in non kindle unlimited fare.

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today


Finished Mage Errant 4 last night and holding off on getting #5 because I accidentally had a look at the reviews. Half of them are complaining about the ending being out of character.

Writing dialects in text always bug me as well, though I think I understand the authorial choice here, given the world building around language and the Ithonic Empire.

Overall it's about on par with Traveler's Gate, and less polished compared to Cradle for sure. He kind of overuses Alustin's lectures for exposition dumps but otherwise I appreciate that he doesn't go overboard with it. The non apprentice POVs are more interesting to read because they don't have so much info dumping.

The awkward teen relationship drama quotient is about on par with "girl holding magic in hand" novels in terms of page count but nowhere near as melodramatic. I have to say Will's reluctance to write romance is a plus target than a minus... There's other much more interesting things to write about!

Anias
Jun 3, 2010

It really is a lovely hat


I'll say ME5 starts slow but has a nice build that carries through to the ending I think. You may value different things, but definitely give it a read and make your own judgement. It's one of those endings where it's going to irritate some and be great to others so you might as well try it on yourself if you have KU.

Aardvark!
Mar 3, 2002



I think the accent thing wouldn't be nearly as big an issue if he hadn't replaced "I" with "Ah", consistently, book after book. that is the real thorn in my side.

also I guess it's cool that every single person is a perfect listener, incredibly patient, and an emotional mensch but it kind of makes the conversations feel really inauthentic every time hugh is slowly and calmly talked around his feelings.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface


Reading the Spiral Wars and I don't think the author knows what he wants the humans to be or generally act/believe. It's like he wanted there to be some unreliable narration type stuff but just got half way there.

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today


Anias posted:

I'll say ME5 starts slow but has a nice build that carries through to the ending I think. You may value different things, but definitely give it a read and make your own judgement. It's one of those endings where it's going to irritate some and be great to others so you might as well try it on yourself if you have KU.

Alright, I've now finished Siege of Skyhold and now understand why some people are so mad about the ending. In which case I don't think they were paying attention to the first four books, because what happened was absolutely consistent with main character motivations. Maybe less so for the really minor supporting characters but I have no complaints about the ending, especially considering it's book 5 of a 7 book arc.

I'm not really sure where the power escalation is going to go from here though. It feels like the timeline of books 6 and 7 are going to happen pretty quickly, and the main gang are as powered up as they're gonna get, unless Hugh makes another pact or Sabae develops more lightning spells.

asur
Dec 28, 2012


Leng posted:

Alright, I've now finished Siege of Skyhold and now understand why some people are so mad about the ending. In which case I don't think they were paying attention to the first four books, because what happened was absolutely consistent with main character motivations. Maybe less so for the really minor supporting characters but I have no complaints about the ending, especially considering it's book 5 of a 7 book arc.

I'm not really sure where the power escalation is going to go from here though. It feels like the timeline of books 6 and 7 are going to happen pretty quickly, and the main gang are as powered up as they're gonna get, unless Hugh makes another pact or Sabae develops more lightning spells.

I just finished as well and the ending was great.
Entirely within the bounds of the characters, but surprising because normally the empire is crushed and the main character gets their revenge. It's only disappointing in that an interesting character is dead and the other is a villain and I'm a little concerned in the capability of the remaining four to actually hold the story.

Aardvark!
Mar 3, 2002



Finished Siege of Skyhold as well,

I called Artur and Kanderon dying but I did not see Alustin's betrayal coming. and I think there was foreshadowing of it but it was far enough between that I forgot about it entirely.

One thing I've been thinking about is aether crystals. I feel like given that they were pacted, hugh should be able to take some of Kanderon's crystals pretty easy, but obviously the author could just say that attuned crystals are Only Useful For Enchanters or something.

It seems like the aether crystals are crucial to gaining power as a crystal mage, so it would be cool if he went psycho mode and suddenly had great power levels from it. Considering this is a progression fantasy on book 5/7 I am really hoping we get even more power creep so we can see the Squad vs. the Librarians Errant as an even bigger battle than the one we just had.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE


Aardvark! posted:

Finished Siege of Skyhold as well,

I called Artur and Kanderon dying

Kanderon dying is unclear; I suspect Kanderon is simply offstage until the end of book 6 or maybe 7. Hugh specifically says he doesn't know if she's dead or alive, and that he can tell the bond is still there but can't feel anything through it.

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LGD
Sep 25, 2004



asur posted:

I just finished as well and the ending was great.
Entirely within the bounds of the characters, but surprising because normally the empire is crushed and the main character gets their revenge. It's only disappointing in that an interesting character is dead and the other is a villain and I'm a little concerned in the capability of the remaining four to actually hold the story.

I'm in full agreement


Including concern about how it'll play out going forward. The series has done a fairly good job establishing supporting characters, and they were used effectively in Siege of Skyhold, but by the end of the book it appears obvious most of them are going to be out of the picture for at least a while if not permanently (due to being dead / comatose / antagonistic / soon-to-be geographically separated). There's nothing inherently wrong with this, but we've still got two books to go and the reduction in the established cast necessitates either a more intense and exclusive focus on the main protagonists, or introducing and getting us to actually care about a decent number of new characters in the back quarter of the story. Both have high potential to result in something of a letdown (in the next book especially). Obviously Siege gains significant narrative power from the degree to which its conclusion disrupts nearly all of the established world/relationships, but I confess I'd be more reassured if it wasn't quite so all-encompassing (due to preparatory world and character building in Siege or earlier works).

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