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asur
Dec 28, 2012

Aargh posted:


I don't understand why everyone thinks he's still an underlord.

Sage, got it, understand that part, not an issue.

Underlord?? Whole book is about everyone advancing to overlord but Lindon, the main character, hasn't advanced even though he went through the same steps as everyone else. No Lindon, despite finding his overlord revelation, in the midst of battle with one of the strongest overlords they know, just took a side step and now is behind everyone elses advancement.

As I've said before he's not overlord, everyone knows what the advancement to overlord is like, no because of his extra special heaven and earth purification has advanced with enough power and authority for people to notice like the red sage, or Northstrider from half a world away, he's advanced to overlord-sage or further. Or you know archlord - same as all the other sages.


Bit as I've said, this is enough of a derail, its a good read and I'll be happy to see what happens in the next book, even if he's advanced into a turtle (in fact no one describes what he looks like after the transformation...)

I don't know why you think he found his overlord revelation when it's clear that he found his sage revelation instead. Those are two separate things as Eithan and Fury both show in the book.

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asur
Dec 28, 2012

Leng posted:

Alright, I've now finished Siege of Skyhold and now understand why some people are so mad about the ending. In which case I don't think they were paying attention to the first four books, because what happened was absolutely consistent with main character motivations. Maybe less so for the really minor supporting characters but I have no complaints about the ending, especially considering it's book 5 of a 7 book arc.

I'm not really sure where the power escalation is going to go from here though. It feels like the timeline of books 6 and 7 are going to happen pretty quickly, and the main gang are as powered up as they're gonna get, unless Hugh makes another pact or Sabae develops more lightning spells.

I just finished as well and the ending was great.
Entirely within the bounds of the characters, but surprising because normally the empire is crushed and the main character gets their revenge. It's only disappointing in that an interesting character is dead and the other is a villain and I'm a little concerned in the capability of the remaining four to actually hold the story.

asur
Dec 28, 2012
If you though HWFWM went downhill in book 3 then you should not continue reading because it only gets worse for quite a while. It's semi-recovering in what I assume is going to be book 5 but only back to the level of book 3.

asur
Dec 28, 2012

Zore posted:

I think even more than that it will be about changing the fundamental nature of progression. He's been laying the seeds for this everywhere; the Abidan are entirely too centralized to manage even a fraction of their territory if something is even slightly out of place(literally every Suriel POV is about the thousands of cries for help she is forced to tune out to do anything), Eithan/Ozriel's arc is all about how one genius is no substitute for companionship and having others to rely on, Lindon's Archlord revelation is about advancing with others and not by himself.

Basically do a massive uplift, democratize power instead of hording it in a small number of people etc. Eithan's plan on a much bigger scale and encompassing all the Judges and not just the Reapers


I do think Wight is going for something like this, but It's not very clear how it would work. The structure of the world guarantees that only the powerful matter as the differential between stages is gigantic. It takes eight sages/heralds to equal a monarch. A two stage gap is almost insurmountable and more than that is. It's not like this just happens at Monarch, if anything the gap between at the Abidan levels may be worse. Democratizing knowledge would help as I think was suppose to be illustrated with Jai Long, but I don't think the issue is helping people advance who are multiple steps below you.

No one we've seen so far appears to be able to easily raise someone to their level. Malice heavily implies that raising Fury to Monarch was luck. Eithan, who appears to be the most powerful person in the entire universe, struggled to raise anyone who can ascend though obviously the party will succeed.

asur
Dec 28, 2012

30.5 Days posted:

Supposedly he'll do it after DCC wraps, I think it's safe to say that that's his moneymaker and he's gotta make hay while the sun shines. So uhhh for those on the patreon:

How bout that ending?

I know we have to have drama, but I'm very disappointed with Katia being an idiot. It's also a little lame because there are just a few possible ways it plays out. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised though.

Everything else was great.

asur fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Feb 8, 2022

asur
Dec 28, 2012

Telsa Cola posted:

Yeah but theres nothing stopping someone from doing the reverse either, in that one staunch socialist could go "gently caress you fight me"

The hoops the author would need to jump through to make the supposed socialist not a hypocrite seem pretty large and would likely appear contrived.

Beware of Chicken is the closest story I've seen and it's more inverting the selfish self centered cultivation trope than anything socialist.

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asur
Dec 28, 2012

platero posted:

I love Drew Hayes' The Utterly Uninteresting and Unadventurous Tales of Fred, The Vampire Accountant series, I've reread it a few times, just a good enjoyable read.

This series is great.

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