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asecondduck posted:Since we're on movie chat right now anyway, everyone needs to drop what they're doing and go see Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse. 
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asecondduck posted:Since we're on movie chat right now anyway, everyone needs to drop what they're doing and go see Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse. We wanted to see Into the Spiderverse but the showtime and theater didn't really work for us so we saw The Mule instead. Mule was fine, didn't feel like we wanted our money or anything, but still wish Spiderverse would have worked out.
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Dec 16, 2018 06:01
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Fell asleep during Windtalkers, a war movie.
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Since we're in TVIV and we want to talk about movies, what are some great TV movies? Miniseries like IT don't count. I've always been partial to Pirates of Silicon Valley.
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Dec 16, 2018 08:49
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LividLiquid posted:Since we're in TVIV and we want to talk about movies, what are some great TV movies? Miniseries like IT don't count. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SutDTIhbQ2g It's Steven Spielberg's directorial debut and also one of my favorite movies of his.
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Dec 16, 2018 08:53
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Travis McGee (1983) with Sam Elliott is a solid yarn. It's funny that there's a 1986 TV movie called Prince of Bel Air.
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Dec 16, 2018 09:31
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I usually hate watching stuff on planes, but managed to finally blast through Mrs. Maisel s1 yesterday (except the pilot which I’d already seen a bunch of times). Loved the ventriloquist coming back in the last episode, now to find time for s2. Bliss.
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The Lord Bude posted:You must have a crazy high bar for 'acceptable entertainment value'. Like most bond movies aren't going to be spectacular but almost all of them are at least good enough to watch once and think 'that 2 hours I just spent was entertaining and I don't regret committing that time to watching that movie' I haven't seen the Daniel Craig ones, maybe those are skewing your perspective, but all the Pierce Brosnan Bonds after Goldeneye were bad enough to make me upset, and a lot of the older Bond films are pretty awful too. There are some decent and even good ones, but it's not even half of them.
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Dec 16, 2018 15:04
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A Bond movie is only as good as it's theme song. That's why A View to a Kill is the best.
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Dec 16, 2018 15:25
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Lurdiak posted:I haven't seen the Daniel Craig ones, maybe those are skewing your perspective, but all the Pierce Brosnan Bonds after Goldeneye were bad enough to make me upset, and a lot of the older Bond films are pretty awful too. There are some decent and even good ones, but it's not even half of them. I'll confess I haven't seen any of the pre Craig ones since I was a kid, or at least a teen; so maybe my opinion is skewed here.
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Dec 16, 2018 15:27
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I bought and watched all of the Bond 50 collection with the wife, who had only seen bits and pieces of the films. There a absolutely some gems across all of the Bonds, but Connery, Moore, Brosnan, and Craig all have some baaaaaad ones (though Quantum of Solace works a LOT better when it's watched immediately after Casino Royale). My wife identified her favorites (in no order) as Casino Royale, GoldenEye, The Living Daylights, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and The Spy Who Loved Me, which is pretty much my top five (I'd probably sub From Russia With Love in there somewhere). The worst ones are a little hard to nail down but I'd probably have to pick You Only Live Twice (why, Roald Dahl, why?), A View To A Kill (how do you gently caress up what should have been a 1-2 punch of Christopher Walken and Grace Jones), The Man With The Golden Gun (we actually fell asleep watching it) and, oddly enough, The World Is Not Enough (Die Another Day may be Moore levels of camp, but the opening is great, whereas I couldn't take TWINE seriously as soon as Denise Richards, nuclear scientist and Lara Croft cosplayer, showed up).
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asecondduck posted:
It's interesting to see that the majority of those are also the actor's first appearance as 007.
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Dec 16, 2018 16:46
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Davros1 posted:It's interesting to see that the majority of those are also the actor's first appearance as 007. We also watched them chronologically, so there might be an element of "oh thank God we're done with the silliness the previous actors films devolved into". That and they seem to try harder when they have a new actor.
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Dec 16, 2018 17:53
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Connery is the best Bond but Moore had the best stories.  Craig is decent, Dalton was the worst, but tbf my opinion of Brosnan isn't growing as the years wear on...
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Dec 16, 2018 18:42
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Licence to Kill is actually better than Living Daylights. When I was younger, it was the other way round for me, but then in the 10 years or so since I originally saw them and rewatching them earlier this year, I watched all four Lethal Weapons so I finally "get" Licence.
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Dec 16, 2018 19:07
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asecondduck posted:A View To A Kill (how do you gently caress up what should have been a 1-2 punch of Christopher Walken and Grace Jones) By having your Bond actor be not only older than the Bond girl (Tanya Roberts), but older than her mother.
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Dec 16, 2018 21:34
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I saw this when I was 10 in the theater. It was not powerful, hilarious, ffffast or hero.
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Dec 17, 2018 00:21
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What the... Sergio Corbucci made a loving superhero movie!? e: I fully believe you that it's poo poo, most Italian directors are very hit and miss, but I feel like I need to see that now.
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Dec 17, 2018 03:11
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I'm watching Tidelands, it's good? maybe, it's superwierd Chris Hemsworth's wife is smoking hot.
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Dec 17, 2018 09:26
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Is Netflix's Travelers any good? It looks like season 3 just came out and apparently I watched the 1st episode at some point so I was thinking of giving it another shot.
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Dec 17, 2018 15:24
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asecondduck posted:My wife identified her favorites (in no order) as Casino Royale, GoldenEye, The Living Daylights, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and The Spy Who Loved Me, which is pretty much my top five (I'd probably sub From Russia With Love in there somewhere). This thread is making me want to revisit the Bond movies now, I probably haven't seen any of them in nearly a decade. I know they used to be on TV all the time when I was a kid. I definitely remember From Russia With Love being a top tier one for me, that's the one that takes place entirely on a train right?
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For me all of the pre-Daniel Craig bond movies are just so cringe worthy because the obvious sexism. I mean the Craig ones are sexist as hell but it's just not as in your face about it. Bond movies in the 90's went so bonkers I don't think I even watched a few because they were so stupid and cartoony. Personally I think Casino Royale and Skyfall were the best ones in the entire series and the rest are all weird capsules in time of the then current political climate.
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Dec 17, 2018 16:05
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Goldeneye 64 is the best Bond movie.
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Dec 17, 2018 16:10
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Reign Of Pain posted:Is Netflix's Travelers any good? It looks like season 3 just came out and apparently I watched the 1st episode at some point so I was thinking of giving it another shot. It's reaaally good. The Canadians seem to have this time travel sci fi stuff down.
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I find someone saying that the Craig films are comparatively less sexist hilarious because Skyfall is the movie where Bond promises to help a rape survivor, then later sneaks up on her in the shower and fucks her, then gets her killed and has no reaction besides an incredibly tactless quip. I'm not even saying that's incorrect, either, which is even worse.
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Dec 17, 2018 16:24
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zoux posted:It's reaaally good. The Canadians seem to have this time travel sci fi stuff down. Travellers is great and a perfect example of characterization over SFX/VFX. They seem to spend all their budget getting interesting locations instead of focusing on a time travel machine, or extended vignettes from the ruined future. It's just about the people which is a tough sell for a scifi show but Travellers gets it right.
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Arist posted:I find someone saying that the Craig films are comparatively less sexist hilarious because Skyfall is the movie where Bond promises to help a rape survivor, then later sneaks up on her in the shower and fucks her, then gets her killed and has no reaction besides an incredibly tactless quip. Part of the reason why MI is better than Bond. Ethan doesn't have a disposable lady co-star every movie and they don't ignore the fact that he had a wife three movies ago.
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Arist posted:I find someone saying that the Craig films are comparatively less sexist hilarious because Skyfall is the movie where Bond promises to help a rape survivor, then later sneaks up on her in the shower and fucks her, then gets her killed and has no reaction besides an incredibly tactless quip. That's fair I hadn't even thought about that. Bond movies are sexist as gently caress.
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Croatoan posted:That's fair I hadn't even thought about that. Bond movies are sexist as gently caress. I enjoy the subtle sexism like having someone named Pussy Galore.
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Dec 17, 2018 16:36
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bring back old gbs posted:Travellers is great and a perfect example of characterization over SFX/VFX. They seem to spend all their budget getting interesting locations instead of focusing on a time travel machine, or extended vignettes from the ruined future. It's just about the people which is a tough sell for a scifi show but Travellers gets it right. They basically spun the old rolodex and said anyone who answers the phone is in the show.
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bring back old gbs posted:Travellers is great and a perfect example of characterization over SFX/VFX. They seem to spend all their budget getting interesting locations instead of focusing on a time travel machine, or extended vignettes from the ruined future. It's just about the people which is a tough sell for a scifi show but Travellers gets it right. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop w/r/t the future I'm starting to think this show is about a strong AI talking itself out of the box. One of the big sci fi questions about strong AI is how to create it while also protecting us from it. Some people say that as long as you keep it completely isolated it'll be fine, others argue that an AI will find a way to get out. With the intro of the Ilsa AI this season, and the fact that it is an emergent strong AI, makes me wonder if it's The Director. I'm only on ep 5 tho so NO SPOILERS Also this is lovely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9DfSCk-6Ko
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New Strike Back trailer for season whatever, it's the Revolution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo1MZQODKQM
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Dec 17, 2018 16:59
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Arist posted:I find someone saying that the Craig films are comparatively less sexist hilarious because Skyfall is the movie where Bond promises to help a rape survivor, then later sneaks up on her in the shower and fucks her, then gets her killed and has no reaction besides an incredibly tactless quip. Honestly, the thing that makes Craig work better despite being nominally similar (if not the outright same) is that his Bond isn't really a "cool" aspirational figure. He's kind of just a thuggish rear end in a top hat and the movies don't really try to pretend otherwise, so when he does something like that, it comes off like the movie's saying "this is horrible rear end in a top hat behavior." Like, the inciting incident of Skyfall is basically him being a big fuckin baby.
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Dec 17, 2018 17:12
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 Harvey Fierstein as the Skexis leader please
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Escobarbarian posted:Skyfall has an amazing first act and then falls off a loving cliff
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GreenNight posted:I enjoy the subtle sexism like having someone named Pussy Galore. which is the subtle part
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Croatoan posted:For me all of the pre-Daniel Craig bond movies are just so cringe worthy because the obvious sexism. I mean the Craig ones are sexist as hell but it's just not as in your face about it. Bond movies in the 90's went so bonkers I don't think I even watched a few because they were so stupid and cartoony. Personally I think Casino Royale and Skyfall were the best ones in the entire series and the rest are all weird capsules in time of the then current political climate. Yeah, my wife and I talk about this all the time. She's never seen them and views them entirely through a modern lens, while I have nostalgia from watching them with my grandmother (who thought Bond was dapper and charming) when I was little. It's difficult to reconcile that with watching the movies and their obvious sexism and objectification, but the series still exists on that cognitive dissonance.  LORD OF BOOTY posted:Honestly, the thing that makes Craig work better despite being nominally similar (if not the outright same) is that his Bond isn't really a "cool" aspirational figure. He's kind of just a thuggish rear end in a top hat and the movies don't really try to pretend otherwise, so when he does something like that, it comes off like the movie's saying "this is horrible rear end in a top hat behavior." Yeah, the Craig films are ~almost~ a deconstruction of the series, but it doesn't go quite that far. It'll be interesting to see what a post-MeToo Bone looks like: active consent? Lady Bond? gently caress It He's Still A Misogynist? I'll be curious to see where the studio lands. GreenNight posted:I enjoy the subtle sexism like having someone named Pussy Galore. You forgot Honey Ryder, Sylvia Trench, Kissy Suzuki (the japanese girl  ), Plenty O'Toole, Chew Me (also Asian ), Holly Goodhead, Log Cabin Girl ( ), and Nancy.zoux posted:Part of the reason why MI is better than Bond. Ethan doesn't have a disposable lady co-star every movie and they don't ignore the fact that he had a wife three movies ago. You know, I just realized I've only seen the first two and need to have a marathon this holiday!  Just to bring this back to TV so it's not a total derail: HAS ANYBODY ELSE SEEN THE HOLIDAY SEASON OF NAILED IT!?!?!?!?!?  Nicole Byer is a national treasure and someone should give her some dick.
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The first two are the worst two!
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