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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

IRQ posted:

That's a shame. If all this poo poo is true he really went to great lengths to cultivate an image of a good guy. Like to a weirdly large degree.

I feel like society is losing sight of the fact that people can be, generally and mostly, "good people" and still do "bad things". People are complicated and even the best of them are often at most halfway in control of their actions. I've known a lot of people who "couldn't" resist yelling and saying hurtful things in anger, I'm sure we all have. It's been a really long time, more than a decade, since I let myself lose my temper and speak hurtfully in anger. You know how difficult that is? It's really, really difficult. Especially with my wife, who has anger issues and NVLD, it's incredibly difficult to stay calm and tell her I love her even when she's yelling at me. In my experience most people just "can't" stay calm like that.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
yeah it's not even a little bit surprising that Aziz let his fame go to his head and basically acted like literally every frat boy in America

like "if she doesn't say no, you're good to go" sounds like it could be from his stand-up

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
let's face it, sex is gross and ugly

i'm not being ironic, or kidding, and i'm also not saying my wife and i don't have sex, i'm just saying... sex is gross and ugly and weird even when you're doing it right

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Yeah I wasn't dogging on Ansari in general, i think he's often hilarious and master of none is legit amazing, but he always struck me as more than capable of being a douche bag. Like you're basically using the "virtue signaling" argument without explicitly using that term and that's just not cool or interesting. Nobody sane is happy or thinks they're getting Internet cred for being unsurprised at news like this.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

nate fisher posted:

Let me be honest, as a teenager back in the 80's good chance I did things as bad as described by his victim. Several times I tried to pressure girlfriends into sex or when I was told they didn't want to go any further I used the 'back off and try again strategy' (which never worked). Also as a male I was in a presumed position of power. Not proud of it, and while I was a young and dumb its not an excuse. Still I was a teenager, and once I matured I came to realize I should have stopped at the first hint they didn't want to go any further. Still it is hard for me to understand how a thirty-something male who claims to be 'woke' can make those mistakes. It is creepy and complete abuse of power. That said I was reading on another forum where people were using terms like 'rape' and saying that his life should be ruined for what he did. While I am pretty sure we can all agree it wasn't rape, but should his life be ruined over this incident? Or am I allowing the mistakes made by a 15-16 year old me influence me when it comes to judging a 34 year old man?

Edit: It is funny how much of the media I consumed during the 80's I thought condoned my own behavior. Everything from misogynistic rap and 80's hair metal to the sexism of movies like Weird Science, Revenge of the Nerds, and even MASH (which I watched reruns daily). As a teenager I felt like this was how a guy was suppose to persuade a girl. Thankfully such bullshit has been left in the past (well mostly).

While I have a pretty similar background/age range as you, I've had quite the opposite experience. I've had women get me drunk and pressure me into sex (and some gay men as well, but I was usually quicker to shut that down). Having my boss ply me with free whiskey all night and then send me to her friend's hotel room - despite being incredibly drunk, I was able to leave the hotel room and walk home (in 15 degree weather). Things like that happened several times, but there are also times like the ex-girlfriend of a bandmate insisting she "just want(ed) to watch movies" and then, after getting me drunk, begging for sex, and finally telling me that if I didn't perform she'd smear my name all through the Knoxville indie scene.

That's partially why I'm leery when people say "every man in Hollywood has done this" or similar things; women are more than capable of being awful too, it's just an unfortunate truth that there are more men than women in power especially in Hollywood.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Mu Zeta posted:

wow that sounds really rough

I hope you're not being sarcastic.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Electric Dreams is super uneven but at least check out episode 3, it's fantastic.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

nate fisher posted:

Most of this all happened when I lived in Johnson City (HR manager happen here in Knoxville).

One quick final note (I promise) on this derail: one of the incidents was in JC, after heavy drinking at New Beginnings. I was cornered in a dark bathroom of someone's house by a man who was very, very insistent. I managed to get away without doing anything with him.

A month later I found out he was HIV positive (and had been for a while). gently caress that was scary.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Looten Plunder posted:

Ahh, I knew the name was familiar. There had to be something unique for me to know about a venue on the other side of the world.

It's actually moderately famous in the gay tourism world; despite being a very small town, Johnson City has (or had at one point) something like the fourth highest percentage of gay men in the country. They also used to have pretty much the best drag show in all of the South.

e: I know it's gauche to get excited about anything AMC has done, but man this looks good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPos66MpHe8

precision fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jan 16, 2018

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
james bond is inherently a misogynist character from jump street. like you have to actively scrub that off, and none of the Craig bond movies really do that.

That said, Casino Royale and Skyfall are okay action movies.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Arist posted:

Apparently the new American Crime Story is good, thank gently caress.

the trailer was absolutely loving fantastic

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Fixed. I just want something to recapture the lightning that was House S1-4.

You want to watch Chance, though it was sadly cancelled recently. Still 2 good seasons there.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Josh Lyman posted:

Scream Queens had a good pilot too.

After that, ehhh

whaaaat. the entire first season was gold. i'll admit season 2 was a let down, but it wasn't terrible, just much less interesting

gonna watch ACS2.1 right now

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Spatula City posted:

Is there a point where The Orville actually figures out what the gently caress it wants to be? Because, four episodes in, it's mildly enjoyable, but it's mostly Diet Coke Star Trek With Jokes and a Bigger Budget.

none of the characters have really clicked yet, and the guys that run navigation and weapons are EXTREMELY IRRITATING. also the crew has two humorless aliens, lol. I guess one is sassy and the other is constipated, but it still seems a bit redundant.
also I enjoy Norm McDonald's vocal appearances, but I don't know that I'm here for a blob man persistently sexually propositioning the ship's doctor.

I think it just kept getting better as the season went on, but it sounds like it just might not be your cuppa tea.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
first ep of ACS 2 was absolutely fantastic (Jolt cola, nice)

is nobody gonna thread it? cause i'll thread it.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
weird, i distinctly recall Versace's murder being a pretty massive deal

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Well let's be fair, almost nothing in the past 30 years has been as big as the OJ case. Hardly anything even comes close.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Lurdiak posted:

I am really surprised so many people have fond memories of a show that was old when Cheers was on.

mash is good tho

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
it seems like women get called out for being one-note more often than men do. i mean chris pratt is the same in every role. i don't have any strong feelings for dushku one way or t'other but i don't think being one-note is a de facto crime against media

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

yeah no this looks absolutely god loving awful, like "MTV's Skins" level of unnecessary and bad

i had literally no idea this was even being made until i clicked that link, so, you know, thanks for that :mad:

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

STAC Goat posted:

If I didn't know any better I'd think that Heathers trailer was made by Ryan Murphy.

more like "made by someone who wants very badly to be but is so very clearly not Ryan Murphy"

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

esperterra posted:

Now I'm scared to inevitably click this when I get home from work.

i would literally advise you not to watch it, except that i feel like it's only fair to spread the suffering

down your bleach when you get to the marilyn manson cover of "tainted love"

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

STAC Goat posted:

I just have no idea how to put my opinion about that trailer. Like I love the movie. It feels weird to say the trailer is... too catty? Too immature? Too snarky? None of that makes sense because the original was all those things. I guess the original just had an edge and a seriousness to it? It was dark humor. That trailer just feels more like Mean Girls or a Murphy thing or something. Maybe its just hard to duplicate the ability/chemistry of Winona Ryder and Christian Slater?

I don't know, I'm probably just old and can't relate to kids stuff or something.

Funnily enough it looks like the one thing they got right was the teachers.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
"Suck my third nipple" is no "gently caress me gently with a chainsaw", that's for sure.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

esperterra posted:

Didn't hear anyone ask somene else what their damage was so 0/10

i'm dreading what their version of the "i love my dead gay son" scene is gonna be. the trailer makes it apparent they're set on hitting all the iconic scenes of the film so you just know that's gonna be in there somehow. also "eskimo".

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Rhyno posted:

I'm surprised Disney hasn't pushed him into Star Wars.

honestly this feels more like an inevitability than just about anything else, ever.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

:agreed:

"You're about to get FLAMED" smh

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Josh Lyman posted:

Obama is and always was a third way pushover. We projected our progressive hopes onto him.

yup. he was still a good president though, all things considered.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
honestly it's best to think of POTUS as more like the Monarch of England than not. while Trump (and others) have certainly given us painful reminders that POTUS does have legitimate power, what's more important to the world stage is just being a good statesman and Obama was very much that.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
oh my God the Fresh Prince skit on the latest SNL, perfect

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Aziz Ansari is going to be miserably single for a very long time.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Rhyno posted:

Are there any new shows debuting shortly that don't look like total horseshit? AP Bio is the only thing standing out for me.

the new season of American Crime Story

i mean it debuted a few days ago but that's close enough to count for you question i think

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Baskets S2 was insanely brilliant and I have super high hopes for where they decided to go with S3. Gonna be a hell of a ride I think.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

oh my god that's amazing

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Logan Lucky is one of the best films of 2017, I've watched it twice today (once alone, once with wife)

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
i like Runaways a lot but yeah i think it would have definitely been better as a binge-able show

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Patriot is so good I had to stop every couple episodes to let it settle in my mind.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Mu Zeta posted:

Someone should make The Wire of medical dramas.

OBAMACARE COMIN'

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
yep, Turn is often overlooked but it's remarkably solid and well made television with a few standout performances

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Also, Baskets is fantastic and Louie Anderson deserves all the Emmys for his portrayal of Ms. Baskets. I honestly forget he’s a man in a wig sometimes.

That performance is one of the most human things on television, especially in season 2 with the romance plot. The Mattress King was amazing.

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