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The problem is that in order for the subversion to work the centrist needs to be portrayed as potentially sensible and reasonable in panel two, and needs to be saying something the audience might potentially agree with. But presumably this guy's audience would not respond well to the "you're just the same" comments, so the cartoon becomes "You know those guys you think are bad for reason A? You're wrong, they're actually bad for reason B!" which is a pretty weak message even by the low standards of political cartoons.
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sheep-dodger posted:Ahahaha, this is going to be a shoe-in for the Most Easily Reinterpreted Gaybie. You need to actively make an effort to interpret it the way it was meant. I genuinely can't. Usually even in the most ridiculous AGCs I can tell what the author is trying to say, or in cases like Asay I can understand the worldview that makes the absurd conservative interpretation the obvious one. But in this case I just can't get what he's trying to say at all. Surely it's something more than "heh heh, look at the dumb donkey who wants to save kids' lives"? Gary is very, very dumb but he's not actually insane, right? What am I missing? Is there something about the kid that's meant to mark him as evil? Maybe the haircut, or the weird design on his shirt? Is he going to use that bottle of water to blow up a plane?  edit: Are the scare quotes meant to imply that "effective gun legislation to protect our nation's children" is as much empty rhetoric as "thoughts and prayers"? Is that it? NRVNQSR fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Feb 20, 2018 |
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This one actually brought home to me just how desperate the gun lobby seems to be this time. The video games bogeyman hasn't been credible for almost ten years now; I can't even remember the last time it was dragged out in earnest. And yet here it is again, being flung at the wall with everything else in the hope that something, anything will stick. It's far to early to say that anything is going to change in the US gun debate. But this is the first time in living memory that I've seen anyone on the winning side afraid that it might.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I've got a question about the Irish border and Brexit. No, only the first one is correct; the other two are just excuses the government are making. Arguably a special border between NI and GB would be against the spirit of the Good Friday Agreement unless NI voted on it, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be against the letter because no-one ever expected the issue to come up.
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Crazycryodude posted:Yeah if there's a soft border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the EU, then the whole thing is pointless from the PoV of the crazies because the evil brown people or Poles or whoever can still walk right into the UK they just need to take a slight detour. Sure, the crazies want a bunch of things that are legally impossible. They also want £350m each year redirected from Europe to the NHS even though it doesn't exist. The only thing we can really say here is that one way or another they're going to be disappointed.
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Jedit posted:I've been wondering how Republicans would respond if Planned Parenthood declared that in future they would only perform abortions by shooting pregnant women in the stomach. Well, let's check the standard criteria:  Seems like they would be fine with it.
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Cat Mattress posted:How many thousands of people will have entered "Christ, what an rear end in a top hat" in that contest? Enough that I'm sure the contest website auto-filters them, along with the other standby "I'm thinking of unfriending him on Facebook".
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D.N. Nation posted:Oops, tell a joke, etc. It's no bad thing for Rall to try to make his comic more like First Dog. Even though he'll probably never catch up in terms of writing, artistic ability or ethics it's still inevitably a big improvement.
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Depicting the "then" people as dirty and miserable and the "now" people as healthy and happy kind of works against Matt's point here.
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Axe-man posted:If I had faith in humanity, and I don't, I would say that the majority of that is seeing of there is an international men's day when the more publicized international women's day comes up out of sheer curiosity . The reality is likely much more terrible. I mean, yes, of course it's that men see the publicity around International Women's Day and want to be reassured that there's an International Men's Day too. When it actually happens obviously no-one pays attention to it because a day when society gives special recognition to men is hardly newsworthy. What's the alternative explanation? Script kiddies mass-googling IMD to stick it to the Libs who read google analytics?
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Axe-man posted:My thought was that gamergaters or whatever they are called now looking up to own someone and then finding a day change arguement tactics. Yeah, I guess that could be it too. We know some misogynists do 80-90 hours of research for their arguments after all. edit: tyblazitar posted:Oh god he's going to be fully behind Trump by re-election season isn't he? Re-election nothing, he's going to finish the pivot before midterms. NRVNQSR fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Mar 9, 2018 |
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It's terrible when people steal PBF's cartoons and put their own logos on them like that.
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Maybe Irish-American attitudes are different but every Irish person I know would be delighted to hear this and would immediately start trying to figure out how closely your family's Irish royalty was related to their family's Irish royalty.
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T-man posted:You know, I'm kinda annoyed at all the "RINO NO MORE HUMANS BAD" since, well, let's be honest it's the penis-having humans who are obsessed with boners enough to put species to death. Stop blaming ladies and trans men! Hashtag not all humans.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I’m really not on board with this way of looking at it. FB isn’t some guy secretly spying on everyone, everyone is literally just giving them all their personal thoughts and fears and dreams of their own free will. FB is also spying, though. The Android app is the most blatant example of this, since it collects enormous amounts of data based on some very dubious permission requests.
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Technowolf posted:Isn't most of the reasoning behind 'we won't impeach Trump' the fact that Pence is 110 times worse that Trump ever could be? (Mostly because he has the Eh, I maintain that global thermonuclear war is less likely under Pence than Trump. Good backronyms, though that last one is a stretch.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Is that a teletubby in the background of panel four? Yes. Specifically the one who was frequently assumed to be homosexual because he carried a handbag.
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Internet Kraken posted:What the gently caress The cartoon gets credit for labeling a big stick "Big Stick". I know why it did it, but it's still amazing.
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Ramos posted:On the nose enough that I can see that getting shared around unironically by alt right people. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit but wouldn't the barbed wire be a bit of a hint that the cartoon isn't on their side?
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Cat and Girl is sometimes political and very, very occasionally a cartoon. I don't post it because it almost never manages to be both at once, but I think today's comes pretty close.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Honestly, it kind of came as a surprise to me, a Canadian, that pretty much every paper in the UK was distinctly right-wing aside from the Guardian. I could have sworn (previous to learning the above) that there were at least one or two others not firmly entrenched on the right. The Mirror is still a little bit left of centre, possibly left of the Grauniad, but it can be hard to tell because like most of the centre-left they hate Corbyn. Honestly I think the Guardian hates him too, but like the BBC they're professional enough to make a token effort to hide it. These days you have to go to the weeklies before you start getting titles like the Socialist Worker.
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Pants Donkey posted:I’ve heard Catherine has one of the most positive portrayals of a trans woman in games. But I’ve never played it so It's wildly divisive, in part because almost all of the other characters in the game are horribly broken people so it's unclear how much of their attitude to her is intended to be the characters being idiot jerks and how much of it is the creators being idiot jerks. There was also a lot of flat out false information going around Twitter about the game's portrayal too, which didn't get contradicted because let's face it, no one played it. It's getting a semi-sequel very soon in which trans identity is going to play a much bigger role in the plot, so we'll presumably see where the developers really stand then.
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Samurai Sanders posted:America has a major historical problem of systematically denying voting rights to minorities and the ID requirement is one small part of that. That history can't just go away; it's behind everything about this issue. I think to some extent America is one of the few where people felt they needed a cover story for voter discrimination. A lot of other countries just cut out the middle man and either had violent gangs stationed outside polling stations or instituted an unapologetic poll tax. The need to dogwhistle it with a one-step removed idea of "we need to track IDs to prevent voter fraud" probably owes a lot to America's high profile civil rights movements, which a lot of other countries never really had an equivalent of.
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DalaranJ posted:Does May wear those shoes a lot? Or did she just wear them one time and now that's her distinguishing feature forever? She does often wear fancy and loud high heels, frequently with partial or full leopard print designs; you could call it one of her hallmarks. The media used to spend an unreasonable amount of time talking about them; not quite as much recently, though.
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felch me daddy jr. posted:Wait, when was he not evil? He still gets a little credit for https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/890815543258865664 but it was definitely one bright moment in an otherwise pretty lovely career.
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Pakled posted:Is Jeremy Corbyn actually anti-Semitic or is this the media conflating legitimate criticism of the government of Israel with anti-Semitism? Corbyn is not, as far as we know, anti-Semitic. The media is conflating legitimate criticism of the government of Israel with anti-Semitism, but it would be a mistake to see that as the cause of what's going on here; it's a convenient stick being wielded against him by people who don't actually care about either issue. Fundamentally the conflict in the Labour party is between the leftists and the Blairites/neoliberals. Naturally the leftists are committedly opposed to the current government of Israel; the Blairites don't really have a strong consensus on the subject. A small number of people in the Labour party are likely anti-Semitic; you'll find some in any political party, since politics has a tendency to filter in sociopaths. The leftist leadership are taking action to deal with and remove these people. They are not changing their stance towards the government of Israel, though, and the Blairites are generally able to spin this as them not tackling anti-Semitism; the media are not challenging this narrative. If we take the recent resignation of Frank Fields as an example; he lost a vote of confidence by his leftist local party because he's a neoliberal shithead. Following this he resigned on the pretext that he found the party's anti-Semitism unconscionable. Not only does he assuredly know that the party isn't anti-Semitic, he almost certainly doesn't care that it's opposed to the Israeli government either; it's just a convenient attack on the leftists that's sticking.
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Ague Proof posted:https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1019506245869371392 Yeah, even Alex Salmond isn't enough of a self-centred dick to throw his own party under the bus to cover up his sexual harassment claims, and that's saying something. edit: Okay, catching up on Salmond news maybe I spoke too soon. There is a little schadenfreude from watching the death spiral all these arseholes' careers seem to go into after they quit, but it doesn't do much to make up for the fact that Woodcock's "independent process" is never going to happen. NRVNQSR fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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loquacius posted:Neither Stantis nor Allie is particularly Christian Is the anti-Evolution drive in the US still actually driven by Christian belief, though, or is it now just a front in the right wing drive of anti-Intellectualism? Sometimes it feels like teaching biblical creationism in schools isn't the real goal, it's to undermine the teaching of critical thinking and science.
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Pants Donkey posted:The idea isn’t to go from What We Have Now to What We Have Now Without Cops. Getting rid of cops would involve fundamental changes to our society and government. That's a very sensible viewpoint but I'm not convinced it's the one the cartoonist holds. It really feels like a better drawn Rall to me, right down to the "dumb chatty people who are direct victims of this problem, why can't they see that their opinion is far less important than mine, a Cartoonist's".
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Pants Donkey posted:Unlike Rall, Passmore is a regular activist and participates in protests. So he's not just an egotist criticizing from the safety of his wacom. That's fair; I've not seen any of his other work or writing, I'm just judging the comic in a vacuum.
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AxGrap posted:Srsly, this (asking how to get rid of pigs) from the thread that calls for full socialism without asking how? The reason no-one talks about the "how" of full socialism is because the question has largely been answered already; plenty of successful western democracies have socialised medicine, transport, communications, even partially socialised production in some cases. There are plenty of examples of how to achieve these things in ways that work continuously throughout the process - or at least ways that don't work any worse than they did at the privately owned starting point. As far as I'm aware, though, there aren't any large modern democracies that successfully function without an organised police force so the question of "how is this going to work" is a reasonable one to ask.
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ryonguy posted:I'm surprised to learn that the UK doesn't have no-fault divorce? Or am I misreading that? As I understand it you can get a no-fault divorce if both partners agree or after two years' separation, but if one partner wants to stay married then you currently need to prove fault to skip that separation period. No idea how that compares to US law. edit: My bad, it's five years, which is pretty crazy. edit2: Looks like it's about on par with divorce laws in the most conservative US states? Tennessee seems like a close analogue. NRVNQSR fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Sep 9, 2018 |
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I'm frightened to ask what you guys assumed she looked like based on her name, but she's blonde and dark skinned just like Knight drew her. That's really not what you should be criticising the cartoon for.
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Sure, but specifically her ponytail is blonde: edit: Ah, you edited. Still, I don't think "the cartoonist drew her hair slightly less curly than it is in real life" even breaks the top ten sins of that cartoon. She's a lot more recognisable than her opponent is. NRVNQSR fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Sep 10, 2018 |
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seiferguy posted:Sure says a lot about Australians that they'd trash Serena Williams in the US Open after playing a Japanese/Haitian American. I don't feel like the British media have been particularly sympathetic towards Serena's side of the argument either. How have the US press been treating the story?
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D.N. Nation posted:w/r/t the US Open Final, in the aggregate Serena has much to be aggrieved about, especially with the NO CAT SUIT BECAUSE BOOBIES nonsense, but she did receive coaching from the stands and she did slam her racket to the ground and she did go on and on and on berating the ref to the point of absurdity. ("I have a daughter, therefore you must apologize for accurately warning me for receiving coaching from the stands" is a dumb, smarmy argument.) I'd just rather tennis players not act like horse's asses to the officials and just loving play, and yeah, the men are far more guilty of it. So dock them too. Yeah, that's the impression I get from coverage here too. There is absolutely a structural problem with different attitudes to court behavior between women and men, but in this specific case it seems like all of Ramos's calls were good and he has a consistent record of harshly punishing famous white male players for exactly the same things, so he was a poorly chosen target for her outburst.
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Jurgan posted:This is the most petty and pointless DASGC I’ve seen in a while. That's the charitable view. I think it's more likely that he's implying her cats all voted for Hillary.
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Mikl posted:Just in case someone had any doubts re: the Serena Williams thing, or if you need some proof to show a non believer: I don't think that news item proves what the tweeter thinks it does? As it says, Ramos gave Djokovic a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct after that clash which is the exact same penalty Williams received. She got a game penalty because she had previously received two warnings for coaching and racket smashing during the same match, and three separate warnings is an automatic game penalty.
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