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Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
we use Tigerpaw and it's slow and I hate it and the mobile app sucks.

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Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read
We use Freshservice currently, so mostly just putting out feelers on what’s current.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



A Sharepoint list with email notifications :madmax:

you ate my cat
Jul 1, 2007

We use Remedyforce for ticketing, CMDB, and change control and it's a big piece of poo poo. I bet if you had a big org, and you put a bunch of care into planning it out and setting it up, it would be kind of OK. We didn't, and I'm the only person who does any admin of it, so it sucks.

Honestly though, basically every design decision is makes is bananas and I hate it.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



We went from Zendesk to Salesforce and it is so loving poo poo I'm actively job hunting again because of it.

Impotence
Nov 8, 2010
Lipstick Apathy
zendesk is great



....does anyone use rt?

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Biowarfare posted:

zendesk is great



....does anyone use rt?

I used it years ago, but no company seems to want to pay the money for it - if they reduced the pricing to something more reasonable, you would see most other ticketing systems dissapear....

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


Biowarfare posted:

zendesk is great



....does anyone use rt?

My company used RT forever until switching to service now a couple of years ago. I’m sure a lot of it was how we used it and had it provisioned, but good lord it was slow

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Spring Heeled Jack posted:

What does everyone use for ticketing and what does it cost you per agent?

We use OTRS, if you don't mind some OSS jank it's decent. It tends to take a lot of resources as the database gets bigger. My biggest pet peeve/issue is that there are no SAML auth plugin on the latest version(only on the previous major which is now EoL)

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I worked at a CERT and in that community RT-IR (RT for Incident Response) was popular like 10+ years ago so if course it was never replaced with something more sensible and they had to wrestle with keeping an ancient Perl webapp working.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Zendesk was everywhere and then they doubled their prices about five years ago. £65 per agent if you want to monitor SLAs is crazy.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

We use Zoho. It's, uh, fine. But it's all I know, so.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



We use Salesforce and I hate it with every fiber of my being.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

We use ServiceNow. I hate it, it's slow, it's cumbersome, it requires an entire team of people just to support it, do not recommend.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



We just switched to ServiceNow from an internal bespoke system. The old one was awful but the new one is even worse.

How do you develop a change management system where you CANNOT DIRECT-LINK A TICKET

Here please approve this ticket: https://blah.service-now.com/husdiksdchk?AC4?A$c4cac/ac4434c3/aC$?$/a3wC$Aw4?3$wC$?AW#c4w3$?AW$?WA#C$?awc34?#4A$?a44cw4434c3zw43ww443wca4?C?$4344a343asadfdsafdsfdsaw4wca4A?CQa4ca4=adADASFC$Aw4?3$wC$?AW#c4w3$?AW$?WA#C$?awc34?#4A$?a44cw4434cafsdbfhjsbhjC?$4344a343ac$?3c4a343awaw4ca4w?$cw4wca4A?CQa4ca4=c4a?ac4434c3/aC$?$/a3wC$Aw4?3$wC$?AW#c4w3$?AW$?WA#C$?awc34?#4A$?a44e43wtretrejmbnvC?$4344a343ac$?3c4a343awaw4ca4w?$cw4wca4A?CQa4ca4=c4a?ac4434c3/axcvbojiohxucvibhvcxbcxc4w3$?AW$?WA#C$?awc34?#4A$?a44cw4434c3zw43ww443wca4?C?$4344a343ac$?3c4a343awaw4ca4w?$cw4wca4A?CQa4ca4=c4a?ACQ4334/AC34?acaq4q4aWTFFFFFFFFF

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Relyssa posted:

We use Salesforce and I hate it with every fiber of my being.

Like, it's so loving slow and poo poo, why does anyone use this???

I'm convinced someone in our upper management is getting a kickback for forcing us to use Salesforce. I haven't heard a single support team member speak about it positively in any way.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
SNOW (the way cool kids abbreviate service now) is such a massive pile of poo poo it’s almost hard to fathom why people would ever use it.

Fresh Service is very dope

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

We use Kaseya.

Don't.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

My company uses Saleforce and I can confirm its bad. I make it better by using AHK scripts to do repetitive poo poo on it. I'm representing my team with our SF admin who is moving us to Salesforce LIGHTNING. Because Salesforce is forcing LIGHTNING on everyone, despite it being worse in every single way. They named it LIGHTNING despite the fact that it makes doing anything you did previously take EVEN LONGER.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer
We use MS SCSM 2012.

...we're upgrading to 2019 this summer, assuming that doesn't cause everything to spontaneously combust. It's... okay?

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

we use spiceworks because it's free

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Seven years ago we moved from Service Now to Salesforce. At the time, Service Now was the worst ticketing system I'd ever used.

We got into Salesforce. Built a custom console/app for our agents and invested in a small team to maintain/update it. It's got issues but it's way better than SN.

We got acquired at the end of 2019. New company is moving us back to Service Now next year.

God I hope their implementation is better than the one we came from. I don't think it will be.

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

My company uses Saleforce and I can confirm its bad. I make it better by using AHK scripts to do repetitive poo poo on it. I'm representing my team with our SF admin who is moving us to Salesforce LIGHTNING. Because Salesforce is forcing LIGHTNING on everyone, despite it being worse in every single way. They named it LIGHTNING despite the fact that it makes doing anything you did previously take EVEN LONGER.

A vendor selling us oldPlatform decided to make new software called Intuition, except that they ended up making two versions of it, Intuition and Intuition by oldPlatform. All three platforms are still in use, they all partially but don't totally overlap with each other, and are a bitch to learn how to admin. I also suspect that their developers go for months between code merges.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

ConfusedUs posted:

Seven years ago we moved from Service Now to Salesforce. At the time, Service Now was the worst ticketing system I'd ever used.

We got into Salesforce. Built a custom console/app for our agents and invested in a small team to maintain/update it. It's got issues but it's way better than SN.

We got acquired at the end of 2019. New company is moving us back to Service Now next year.

God I hope their implementation is better than the one we came from. I don't think it will be.

I don't think Service Now has better implmentations. Just assort varieties of dogshit

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

I kinda want to make an actual good ticketing system one day, but I have to stop and ask what is preventing them from being made and used now.

Its impossible to sell to an exec without so many bells and whistles it becomes useless, isn't it?

Theswarms
Dec 20, 2005

RFC2324 posted:

I don't think Service Now has better implmentations. Just assort varieties of dogshit

When we first got ServiceNow, I learned their permissions where JS only. So if I wasn't allowed to update a ticket, I could do so by just making the button to do so visible in the console and then pressing it. The only thing stopping me was that they didn't make the button visible. No server side validation. Made my life easier!

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

We use Jira for customer tickets.

No, I'm not joking.

Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

GreenBuckanneer posted:

We use Jira for customer tickets.

No, I'm not joking.

My first company did this. It worked better then SNOW, Remedy and whatever other crap is out there.

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

We have a lot of those at work, i.e.:

JIRA
Service Now
SalesForce
Sharepoint

Sigh.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

GreenBuckanneer posted:

We use Jira for customer tickets.

No, I'm not joking.

My company bills itself as atlassian specialists and we don't do this

Maybe we should

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Theswarms posted:

When we first got ServiceNow, I learned their permissions where JS only. So if I wasn't allowed to update a ticket, I could do so by just making the button to do so visible in the console and then pressing it. The only thing stopping me was that they didn't make the button visible. No server side validation. Made my life easier!

:psylon:

Unbelievable

Seconding the "I could crap a better ticketing system" sentiment, why is it that the more zeroes they put on the price of a piece of "enterprise" software the more likely it is to have catastrophically stupid basic architecture and be unusably slow and bloated for no good reason

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Sprechensiesexy posted:

My first company did this. It worked better then SNOW, Remedy and whatever other crap is out there.

I could understand it from baby's first IT department, or for it's real purpose (as I understand it, at least), tracking internal programming sprints and such. Not from a military contractor.

Oh, and we don't use confluence. I forgot about that already. Wikimedia, onenote, literal sticky notes, or written down information on a whiteboard. Oh, or email.

GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Apr 15, 2021

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Data Graham posted:

:psylon:

Unbelievable

Seconding the "I could crap a better ticketing system" sentiment, why is it that the more zeroes they put on the price of a piece of "enterprise" software the more likely it is to have catastrophically stupid basic architecture and be unusably slow and bloated for no good reason

Because companies loving suck and are dysfunctional and rather than changing their workflows even the tiniest bit, they will insist on molding the software to fit their overly-specific needs. Add on all that customization year over year, and these products pretty much have to be unusable messes because then they can say "you don't have to worry about a thing, you can do whatever you want with our software!"

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Enterprise software is reassuringly expensive.

Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I could understand it from baby's first IT department, or for it's real purpose (as I understand it, at least), tracking internal programming sprints and such. Not from a military contractor.

It was an ecommerce company with several thousand employees. But they weren't big on ITIL/ITSM so they only used it as a way to organize work, also it was the most efficient IT helpdesk I have ever seen.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Current job is migrating from service now to bmc helix.


My only comfort is that I don’t work support anymore.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I could understand it from baby's first IT department, or for it's real purpose (as I understand it, at least), tracking internal programming sprints and such. Not from a military contractor.

Oh, and we don't use confluence. I forgot about that already. Wikimedia, onenote, literal sticky notes, or written down information on a whiteboard. Oh, or email.

Be glad you don't use confluence. We do and the search algorithm is so bad its almost impossible to find anything

I would kill for something easily search/browsable

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


RFC2324 posted:

Be glad you don't use confluence. We do and the search algorithm is so bad its almost impossible to find anything

I would kill for something easily search/browsable

Have you tried the windows 10 search bar?

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

The Fool posted:

Have you tried the windows 10 search bar?

The what now?

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AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

RFC2324 posted:

Be glad you don't use confluence. We do and the search algorithm is so bad its almost impossible to find anything

I would kill for something easily search/browsable
My company is moving from Confluence to SharePoint and I think SharePoint might actually be worse.

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