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General Dog posted:I don’t think artists have ever had a problem with them playing the music for free, because the exposure more than makes up for it (at least, it did when people actually bought music). I think what they have a problem with is how they decide what to play, and how often they play it. They actually do have a huge problem with it. Just like every other artist in any other medium who gets paid “in exposure”. It’s exploitative bullshit and nobody is ok with it. This is a decent summary: https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8489932/frank-sinatra-letter-radio-broadcast-performance-right-michael-huppe
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very stable genius posted:*dons fedora* Qwijib0 posted:Labels paid stations to play music, it's called payola, and it was made illegal.  ) so because people aren't going into Sam Goody's to And that's cool and good because live music is loving awesome. General Dog posted:I don’t think artists have ever had a problem with them playing the music for free, because the exposure more than makes up for it (at least, it did when people actually bought music). I think what they have a problem with is how they decide what to play, and how often they play it. Did you know how much evidence can be left at the scene of a crime? Did you know how small that evidence might be? PS: Don't do a murder
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I got blind drunk and robbed a huddle house last night
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Bands have needed to tour long before live streaming; most record contracts were constructed such that artists basically got nothing from CD/Vinyl sales no matter how many the sold unless the artist had already escaped their first contract and was still churning out hits. Which sucks, because I hate live music
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General Dog posted:I don’t think artists have ever had a problem with them playing the music for free, because the exposure more than makes up for it (at least, it did when people actually bought music). I think what they have a problem with is how they decide what to play, and how often they play it. That's a big part of it. It is also true about music artists making the real money off of touring (and merch sales), though. Record companies give artists advances that look like a lot of money but then charge them for the costs of making the album. During the days of physical media, artists made pennies per album sold and now they make even less everytime their songs are streamed even though the overhead is probably a lot less. In summation: 
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Jan 1, 2019 16:41
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If you want to make money in music and actually be involved in making music, be a producer. Everyone else making the song aint making poo poo.
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Barudak posted:If you want to make money in music and actually be involved in making music, be a producer. Everyone else making the song aint making poo poo. During the days of physical media, distribution was the real way to make money. You could make deals with multiple record companies without having to spend any money on production or artist development. Just keep that supply chain moving and make sure that record companies and stores needed you as the middle man.
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not quite radio but the baffler has had a few articles about how spotify has worked its way into a corporate meat grinderquote:The week that “Psychopath” was released, it was quickly serviced to official Spotify playlists including Pop Rising, Indie Pop, Pop Right Now, Fresh & Chill, Swag!, Indie Stage, Front Left, Left of Center, Easy, Get Popped, Pop Relax, Chill af, as well as dozens of New Music Friday playlists around the world. The next week, Spotify began removing it, and by mid-May it was gone from pretty much all official playlists. https://thebaffler.com/downstream/streambait-pop-pelly
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Jan 1, 2019 16:55
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im making pizza today. i got the dough doing its thing now
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Don’t even the biggest artists get an absurdly minuscule amount of money from their songs being on streaming services? Like a million streams earns like $100.
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FizFashizzle posted:I got blind drunk and robbed a huddle house last night You left DNA everywhere dude, you're boned. You should not have yelled "It's good to be home for the Hollandaise" as you spurt your gurt on the waitress's eggs benedict tits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7S6Cn1xVvU
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Jan 1, 2019 17:10
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:During the days of physical media, distribution was the real way to make money. You could make deals with multiple record companies without having to spend any money on production or artist development. Just keep that supply chain moving and make sure that record companies and stores needed you as the middle man. Oh absolutely, just if you wanted to actually touch the songs thats the only place to make money
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Producers don’t get royalties though. Well, not automatically. Up until a few months ago it was up to the artist to decide if the producers got a cut of royalties. When the Music Modernization Act passed it provided a provision for producers to automatically be given a cut. I work in the music business, specifically on the royalties side of things. It’s hosed up.
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Jan 1, 2019 18:32
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I slept from 10 to 9. Happy New Years, I guess.
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Jan 1, 2019 18:39
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Party was OK despite my not drinking. Someone brought a PlayStation and a vr helmet and we played this music game where you chop cubes that fly at you with light sabers. Watching drunk people fail at rhythm games is hilarious. Friends are getting old, though. First couple said goodbye at about 12:45 and that triggered a stampede for the door as everyone bailed on the next fifteen minutes or so. Back in the day, this same crowd would be collapsing on the furniture at 5am and still there for hangover breakfast at noon.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Don’t even the biggest artists get an absurdly minuscule amount of money from their songs being on streaming services? Like a million streams earns like $100. Yes. I have a cousin who has a song on Spotify with 4,000,000+ listens He’s made $375 from it. Sirius XM also pays super low but you don’t mind as it’s brand exposure. I can only speak for DJ / Producers, but they make a majority of their income by shows
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Artists make $5-7 per 1000 plays on most streaming services. The rate for certain types of streaming are set by the government. Other rates are negotiated between the label or the artists themselves and the streaming service. Popular performers with millions of plays per month are making tens of thousands a month from streaming.
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Jan 1, 2019 19:21
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Overall party was fun. Small get togethers w/ card games and good drinks is my jam. 2019 goals: bulk the hell up and lift more & make real efforts to bulking our saving fund instead of adding whatever was not spent that month
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Jan 1, 2019 19:53
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Woke up this morning and shoveled three driveways, 2019 is the year of getting swole
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Jan 1, 2019 19:54
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Master Stur posted:make real efforts to bulking our saving fund instead of adding whatever was not spent that month So  We suck at sticking to a budget and we are going to make a real effort to do so in 2019. Does anyone have any budget planning/money tracking software they recommend?
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Leperflesh posted:Party was OK despite my not drinking. Someone brought a PlayStation and a vr helmet and we played this music game where you chop cubes that fly at you with light sabers. Watching drunk people fail at rhythm games is hilarious. This has been true of my sister's Halloween party for years now. Used to not really "let out" until 5-6 in the morning. Now that we're all old farts it's usually wrapped up around midnight. Many years back a friend of mine passed out drunk in their living room around 1:00 and woke up no longer drunk but high as poo poo when the party moved in there and hitboxes the room for a few hours. It was apparently really disorienting.
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Jan 1, 2019 19:56
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My resolutions are to lose 50 lbs and save $10k dollars.
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very stable genius posted:My resolutions are to lose 50 lbs and save $10k dollars. lose 10k lbs and save $50 instead
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I also played that block chopping vr game. Analysis: VR games have a ways to go.
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pizza was good, i spread the dough out a bit too thin in places so the crust was only like 1cm thick and new york style limp although still cooked through. too much cheese though, it was halfway between pizza hut and a good chain place. i don't think that oven has ever seen over 450 so it belched a bit of smoke although it didn't set off any of the smoke detectors (oldass house without a oven vent and probably never putting one in either). i'd never made bread before so that was an interesting learning experience and probably a good way to get started because it only proofed once and you just throw everything in the mixer. the house was cold so i stuck the bowl in another bowl with some warm water in it and it worked great.
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I fell asleep at 1030 last night but my girlfriend made lamb and risotto and then I won $10 on my annual scratch off ticket so been pretty good Now time to go to the arcade and get drunk and play pinball
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very stable genius posted:Artists make $5-7 per 1000 plays on most streaming services. The rate for certain types of streaming are set by the government. Other rates are negotiated between the label or the artists themselves and the streaming service. Popular performers with millions of plays per month are making tens of thousands a month from streaming. Yeah this is absolutely not true if you’re not with a major label. It’s true though - the major artists are what draw people to Spotify, and what draws minor artists to Spotify are the people already listening, so...
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weird Asian candy posted:So We use YNAB4 but ever since it went cloud I'm not sure you can get it anymore. The cloud version is supposedly fine now after a rocky start though. Our problem was less budget and more I kinda gave up closely watching it and we had a lot of household stuff we always wanted to buy so getting "caught up" over saving happened. Hopefully it's out of our system now because with the Dink life there's no reason we can't be saving 15-20% our take home easy
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Master Stur posted:We use YNAB4 but ever since it went cloud I'm not sure you can get it anymore. The cloud version is supposedly fine now after a rocky start though. Our problem was less budget and more I kinda gave up closely watching it and we had a lot of household stuff we always wanted to buy so getting "caught up" over saving happened. Hopefully it's out of our system now because with the Dink life there's no reason we can't be saving 15-20% our take home easy Yeah I did some searching and this one seems to be the top app on many lists. Looks like there is a free trial, I'll check it out ty!
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Someone make a new Chat thread for the new year so this one doesn't kill the forums by being 366 days old or some poo poo. also I'll name and shame all the people who voted 1
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Athanatos posted:Someone make a new Chat thread for the new year so this one doesn't kill the forums by being 366 days old or some poo poo. voted 1 just now to own the libs
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Athanatos posted:Someone make a new Chat thread for the new year so this one doesn't kill the forums by being 366 days old or some poo poo. ok done
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