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Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


GyroNinja posted:

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: C
So E seems to be running away with this category, and don't get me wrong, it's also really loving racist, but I feel like a lot of people are sleeping on this cartoon which is literally whitewashing genocide. Branco actually drew a Native American character talking about how the millions of deaths and centuries of broken treaties and forced relocations were all worth it because the white man brought civilization to his savage peoples. He made this cartoon in the year two thousand and seventeen. Holy loving poo poo.

Not only that, it makes a bunch of sweeping generalizations about various Aboriginal cultures and implies they are all the same. It's an incredible mix of ignorance and spite.

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Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
These are loving incredible. I have no idea how anybody who drew any of these thought they were making a good point or creating something in any way worthwhile.

Karnegal
Dec 24, 2005

Is it... safe?
The Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon C vs E is really tough - It's tough because McCoy's drawing is just so racist even without any text whereas Branco's isn't super offensive if you get rid of all the words. As a visual medium, you can't just ignore the horrifically offensive drawings. But while McCoy is offering up standard racist fare - suggesting black fathers aren't around because they are that's how black people are. Branco is, as has been noted, using an indigenous person to claim that genocide was literally in their best interest. It's just really hard to take all the factors in and figure out which one is most atrocious.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Worst Breakup with 44: D

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: C

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: E

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: C

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: C

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: C

Worst Label: L

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: C

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: D

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: C

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F

Most Easily Reinterpreted: J

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: H

Best Edit/Parody: B

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Worst Breakup with 44: B

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: B

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: C

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: E

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: C

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: C

Worst Label: L

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: E

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: H

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: C

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F

Most Easily Reinterpreted: L

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: H

Best Edit/Parody: C

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Karnegal posted:

The Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon C vs E is really tough - It's tough because McCoy's drawing is just so racist even without any text whereas Branco's isn't super offensive if you get rid of all the words. As a visual medium, you can't just ignore the horrifically offensive drawings. But while McCoy is offering up standard racist fare - suggesting black fathers aren't around because they are that's how black people are. Branco is, as has been noted, using an indigenous person to claim that genocide was literally in their best interest. It's just really hard to take all the factors in and figure out which one is most atrocious.

it's not "worst bigotry", it's "least concealed bigotry". anyone with eyes can tell E is awful racist garbage almost immediately, and the text on there just confirms it. C might have the more insidious message but you actually have to get to the text to get it.

E has more and more obvious bigotry, even if the message of "boy those native should thank us for nearly extincting them and putting them on reservations" is deeply, deeply wrong and harmful.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

DC Murderverse posted:

it's not "worst bigotry", it's "least concealed bigotry". anyone with eyes can tell E is awful racist garbage almost immediately, and the text on there just confirms it. C might have the more insidious message but you actually have to get to the text to get it.

E has more and more obvious bigotry, even if the message of "boy those native should thank us for nearly extincting them and putting them on reservations" is deeply, deeply wrong and harmful.

Hey man, ain't no-one rules lawyering over precise verbiage in here.

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

Worst Breakup with 44: C

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: E

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: C

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: G

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: B

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: C

Worst Label: L

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: E

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: D

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: C

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F

Most Easily Reinterpreted: J

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: H

Best Edit/Parody: I

jyrque
Sep 4, 2011

Gravy Boat 2k
Worst Breakup with 44:B

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon:E

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy:N

Worst Obituary Cartoon:B

Worst Caricature:E

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon:H

Worst Cartoon about a Movie:C

Worst Label:A

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon:E

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon:H

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon:I

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon:F

Most Easily Reinterpreted:M

Overall Worst Political Cartoon:B

Best Edit/Parody:E



I'm doing my part!

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level
Worst Breakup with 44: c

Toodd rool

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon:i

Not as heinous as the others but notable for how brazen it is. Gotta make the Nazi patreons happy though I guess.

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: d

Heinous.

Worst Obituary Cartoon: b

Dry bones really is the worst

Worst Caricature: g

How many California labels do you need to tell people who you're depicting? Ask the two time Pulitzer prize winner who isn't good enough to find a job at a newspaper.

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon:c

McCoy is terrible.

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: c

Bad drawing, lazy writing, no understanding of the movie, willful ignorance of the FBI investigation. Michael Ramirez everyone.

Worst Label: f

The Trump hunt was tempting but this one is nothing but labels.

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: c

Indefensible.

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon:b

I can't believe dry bones didn't take this one, but there's so much going on in this one

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: c

This is especially heinous in the year of Roy Moore.

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: f

This is at least as lazy as gorrell ever was

Most Easily Reinterpreted: i

Courts doing a good job. Good comic!

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: b

What's a gay abortions award without Garrison? Also, the layers of how terrible this is go pretty deep.

Best Edit/Parody:a

Pants donkey is tempting, but this one really says a lot.

I wasn't really into the cartoons this year but I'm surprised at how much worse Ramirez had gotten and how bad it's gotten that Garrison doesn't stand out as much as he usually does.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Worst Breakup with 44: G

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: B

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: K

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: C

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: C

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: B

Worst Label: L

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: E

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: E

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: C

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: G

Most Easily Reinterpreted: G

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: H

Best Edit/Parody: G

Dopefish Lives!
Nov 27, 2004

Swim swim hungry
Worst Breakup with 44: B

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: H

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: C

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: E

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: H

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: B

Worst Label: C

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: C

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: G

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: E

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F

Most Easily Reinterpreted: I

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: H

Best Edit/Parody: E

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Worst Breakup with 44: G

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: F

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: A

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: G

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: H

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: A

Worst Label: F

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: E

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: G

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: G

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: G

Most Easily Reinterpreted: F

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: G

Best Edit/Parody: K!!!!

Whale Vomit
Nov 10, 2004

starving in the belly of a whale
its ribs are ceiling beams
its guts are carpeting
I guess we have some time to kill
Worst Breakup with 44: B

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: B

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: A

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: B

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: C

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: A

Worst Label: D

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: A

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: D

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: D

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F

Most Easily Reinterpreted: G

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: B

Best Edit/Parody: E

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
Voting ends tomorrow at midnight on the east coast. Please get your vote in before then.

barometz
Feb 14, 2010
Worst Breakup with 44: G
Nicely petty.

Worst Nazi Sympathiser Cartoon: B
This is a tough one. B ultimately gets the nod from me due to the framing more than anything along with it having probably the widest syndication.

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: A

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B
Just look at it.

Worst Caricature: D
A cornucopia of riches, assuming we take 'riches' to mean 'awful caricatures'.

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: C
...what?

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: B

Worst Label: F

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: C

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: E
I did have D, but looking at it, even without a grotesque caricature Kirschen's other effort here feels worst.

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: D

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F
I kind of want to say G because F seems too easy given as there are usually dozens of this type every year.

Most Easily Reinterpreted: F
Another tough choice; I also like Trump as Lee Harvey Oswald and those accursed judges promising people (gasp) due process.

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: B
As terrible as McCoy's DeVos cartoon is, the levels of opposite-of-reality here are just too far through the roof for me to ignore.

Best Edit/Parody: E

The last few years I tried to go into detail about why for each these, but I'm tired and it's not like anyone really cares anyway.

I'll join the chorus of thanks for going through the effort of doing this. It's always a nice/horrific coda to the year.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor
Worst Breakup with 44: G

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: B

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: D

Worst Obituary Cartoon: C

Worst Caricature: C

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: C

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: B

Worst Label: E

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: C

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: B

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: C

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F

Most Easily Reinterpreted: F

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: B

Best Edit/Parody: E

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Worst Breakup with 44:B

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon:E

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy:C

Worst Obituary Cartoon:C

Worst Caricature:C

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon:A

Worst Cartoon about a Movie:B

Worst Label:F

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon:C

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon:B

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon:C

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon:A

Most Easily Reinterpreted:I

Overall Worst Political Cartoon:F

Best Edit/Parody:D

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

barometz posted:

The last few years I tried to go into detail about why for each these, but I'm tired and it's not like anyone really cares anyway.

I appreciate the extra effort and would have added my own if each one wasn't "Just...Jesus Christ LOOK AT IT!!"

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Worst Breakup with 44: B literally claiming Obama is still Shadow President of the Deep State.

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: D or E. Though it would be B if it weren't such a wall of text that most people's eyes probably glaze harmlessly over it, because it's the one that directly claims that his friends are nazis.

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: A Fuuuuuuuuuck you.

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B , no contest here.

Worst Caricature: E Three Ramirez characters in one cartoon is just too much.

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: C Branco using a movement against sexual harassment to promote his brand of misogyny is terrible. Special mention also to G, with Mike Lester using a JRRRROSE!-level pun as a pretext to indulge in his fetish for domestic violence.

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: B When I think about that category, this cartoon is the one that just pops up in my mind.

Worst Label: H E is a close second, because JRROROSE!! should never be allowed to write any word, but the petty spite dripping from Michael Piss Ramirez deserve the dishonor here.

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: E Man, I can't choose, they're all so loving terrible. Let's go with E, certainly among the worst of the worst.

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: H Another dense category. Of those listed, D is the one I find the worst (""Palestine"" deserves a special hell) but it's more properly racism than Islamophobia.

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: C A lot of these cartoons are basically the same (A, C, D, G are all "what if burly men in drag use the girls' bathroom? :ohdear:") and C is the worst of these.

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F Can't beat a blank page for laziness.

Most Easily Reinterpreted: I It's hard to believe that we're supposed to think due process is a bad thing.

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: H gently caress you, gently caress you, gently caress you, I hope the ghost of Norman Rockwell will strangle you in your sleep.

Best Edit/Parody: I It's just so accurate it could be a real toon. C is close second.

Numerical Anxiety
Sep 2, 2011

Hello.
Worst Breakup with 44: A

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: B

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: H

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: A

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: D

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: C

Worst Label: L

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: E

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: D

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: C

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: C

Most Easily Reinterpreted: N

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: B

Best Edit/Parody: M

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
Worst Breakup with 44: G

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: C

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: N

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B

Worst Caricature: A

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: H

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: B

Worst Label: L

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: C

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: E

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: C

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: F

Most Easily Reinterpreted: K

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: B

Best Edit/Parody: D

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
Worst Breakup with 44: B, though if there was a 'worst breakup with HRC' award I think we'd have had to disqualify Garrison. He's STILL going on about that shoe.

Worst Nazi Sympathizer Cartoon: B, I still can't get over "but but genocide isn't violence!

Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy: D, it's not the most despicable (that's probably C) but making me laugh so hard I hurt every time I see it is definitely "worst"

Worst Obituary Cartoon: B. I dunno why he thought doing a memorial cartoon for the title character of It was a good idea.

Worst Caricature: C, may the old bastard rot in hell.

Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon: C. Just... christ wtf.

Worst Cartoon about a Movie: B

Worst Label: F. Not only is it terrible compositionally, it's just plain stupid. "Guns are good and don't kill people, so I will label this gun as all these bad things to show they are bad and kill people!"

Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism) in a Cartoon: B, but I think we should give Bill Leak a Lifetime Achievement Award.

Least Concealed Bigotry (Islamophobia) in a Cartoon: C

Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon: Abstain, on the grounds that pretty much all of them break the scale and leave me at 'murderous rage', so I can't single one of them out.

Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon: A

Most Easily Reinterpreted: A. I had to scratch my head wondering how people misinterpreted this before I realized the way I was interpreting it WAS the misinterpretation.

Overall Worst Political Cartoon: H, by about a thousand times.

Best Edit/Parody: E. Very tough crowd this year, but I gotta go gotta go fasc.

Keiya fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jan 18, 2018

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
Voting is now over. Please do not make any edits to your ballots. Will have results up in a day or two.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




World Famous W posted:

Voting is now over. Please do not make any edits to your ballots. Will have results up in a day or two.

I just wanna say thank you for doing this. Stuff like this actually made it easier for me to handle last year.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
Winners have been announce! Edited into first post.

A special thanks to Scholtz and Abyssal Squid for helping me tally votes this year. See ya'll again next year if we're still alive!

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
From the tallying:

quote:

Abyssal Squid wrote on Jan 18, 2018 13:05:
Each category got this many votes for Ted Rall personally: 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 4 3 4 2 2 2 3
for those wondering how Rall did this year.



barometz posted:

The last few years I tried to go into detail about why for each these, but I'm tired and it's not like anyone really cares anyway.
I enjoy reading everyone's thought process while tallying the votes.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


:barf: Should not have gone to check who the winners are, we all lost by following this:vomarine:

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry
i feel like Kirschen is going to go the way of categorical disqualification because his cartoons only barely register as "art" and as such cannot be judged in any aesthetic fashion

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Russian agents colluded with World Famous W so Rall wouldn't win any categories! Follow the money!

Trazz
Jun 11, 2008
Congratulations to the winners, may they all have their hands mangled in "unfortunate" "accidents"

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


May all of their offsprings gaymarry to minorities. In a good way.

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

The Hurricane harvey edit was made by Angular Cyrus. Should have mentioned the creator when I nominated it, sorry for the oversight.
Also thank you to everyone involved for going through this pile of turds to find the steamiest of them. Christ what a bunch of awful people.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



What a horrific year in political cartooning. I feel like Dry Bones and Drinky Duck actually managed to sink to new lows.

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type
Kirschen was on a roll this year.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Trogdos! posted:

Kirschen was on a roll this year.

I honestly find it hard to get mad at Kirschen anymore. He’s just too incompetent to take seriously.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

My God they were all so awful. 2017 really was a lovely goddamn year.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Horrible Lurkbeast posted:

:barf: Should not have gone to check who the winners are, we all lost by following this:vomarine:
I nominated one of the winners. We all lost, but some lost more than others :(

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Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Jurgan posted:

I honestly find it hard to get mad at Kirschen anymore. He’s just too incompetent to take seriously.

By YOU.

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