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Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

We All Live In Kawalimus' House


i would like the top honorable mention to be converted into a full MOTY with all the same perks and security clearance

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GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012



I think the problem with increasing the number of nominations needed is that the list will end up being exclusively WWE/NJPW matches

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

"Why yes, this is a tie with dollar signs on it.

Jealous?"

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

I think the problem with increasing the number of nominations needed is that the list will end up being exclusively WWE/NJPW matches

Yeah, that's a good point. If I could give everyone the free time to watch every HM nominated, I would, but without that, the only chance small promotions have to make the list, especially if they don't have day and date VOD or streaming services, is that threshold.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012



And I kinda feel like most of the NJPW matches that made the list crossed the 7 threshold easily?

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





I've been futilely shouting Dragon Gate matches into the void all year with zero feedback, so it's not like making it even harder for a match to get on the list will realistically affect me.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

"Why yes, this is a tie with dollar signs on it.

Jealous?"

I barely have time to watch NJPW as is, I wish I could watch DG

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I can see the concern about smaller promotions not being able to hit the threshold, but we did have over 100 entries over 2018 in the MOTYC list and I think bringing that down a bit would be helpful.

Howabout adjusting the threshold but having a second post after the OP where I list the current nominations (pre-crossing the threshold) and their vote numbers so people can see which matches are close and how many votes they need? That might also encourage more discussion/“campaigning” in the thread - I could allow something like a month for a match to get discussed, seen, voted on etc before removing it from the list or (if it has the numbers) put it on the HM list?

Stone Pitbull 141
Jan 8, 2008

Woof


I feel that a 3 tier system works well. when browsing the lariato spreadsheet I tended to watch the High Reccomend's/MOTYC first and then if I took a shine to a wrestler then I followed their reccomended/worth a watch matches on the list.

So we could go Recommended/HM/MOTYC, Though I would understand if you didn't want to add any additional work for yourself.

Evil Badman
Aug 19, 2006

I wanna talk about bird lube, NOW.


I think the HM category should just be the category that exists for matches nominated but only get between 3 and 6 MOTY votes, instead of it being a separate process. This thread has enough active posters, especially with varying tastes and watch histories, that 7 shouldn't be too hard to break for exceptional matches.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004



Fan of Britches

Bring back HMOTY

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014

Bad day, bad day, BAD DAY!

If you want change things while keeping smaller promotions relevant, you could always do weighted voting for the bigger promotions. Everyone's watching Wrestlemania and Wrestle Kingdom so you can require 7+ votes for those shows, 5 for like a Raw or G1 Climax match and maybe just 3 for promotions like DDT and Dragon Gate which are more niche.

It wouldn't be a perfect system, but for my money I'd rather watch a match that is hyped by a large percentage of the few that have seen it, rather than one that just manages to get 4 votes out of like 30 potential voters.

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill

MOTYC - Great Space War 2018 6 vs 5 Handicap Tag Match - Michinoku Pro Wrestling - 12-21-18

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

still a threat


The higher threshold means the list will be even more inundated with every above average Fed match.

Dimebags Brain posted:

I've been futilely shouting Dragon Gate matches into the void all year with zero feedback, so it's not like making it even harder for a match to get on the list will realistically affect me.

I just want you to know your DG recommendations mean the world to me, I've seen some very wonderful matches over the years with your help.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Yeah I appreciate the Dragon Gate recommendations and when I do get a chance to watch some I usually enjoy them, it's just that there is SO MUCH WRESTLING nowadays

Evil Badman posted:

I think the HM category should just be the category that exists for matches nominated but only get between 3 and 6 MOTY votes, instead of it being a separate process. This thread has enough active posters, especially with varying tastes and watch histories, that 7 shouldn't be too hard to break for exceptional matches.

I quite like this idea: keeping an HM list but only populating it with matches that don't quite make the MOTY threshold, and making nominations only for MOTYC and WMOTYC. The thread can also be a catchall recommendation thread where people point out matches they dug or really enjoyed with no other intention other than wanting people to be aware of them and maybe watch them when they get a chance (which also frees up some recommendations for pre-2019 matches).

My only concern is keeping it from getting too complicated. The system as it currently exists actually works pretty well, but the density of great wrestling has just increased to the point that actually maintaining the list is becoming a bit burdensome. In a worst case scenario, I'll just go with a slightly modified version of what we already have, but I wouldn't mind a little experimentation.

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



Dimebags Brain posted:

I've been futilely shouting Dragon Gate matches into the void all year with zero feedback, so it's not like making it even harder for a match to get on the list will realistically affect me.

I try and watch them!

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Maybe a two-tier system for MOTYs? 7 votes for the big groups like WWE and NJPW, 4 for your Dragon Gates and MLWs?

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

still a threat


We need more categories, not less. I want HMWMOTY

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004



Fan of Britches

NienNunb posted:

We need more categories, not less. I want HMWMOTY

Stone Pitbull 141
Jan 8, 2008

Woof


NienNunb posted:

We need more categories, not less. I want HMWMOTY

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


The most logical way to do it is when a match is nominated everyone else on the forum who saw the match must rate it.

If the rating is above ****1/2, it becomes a MOTYC. If the average rating is between **** and ****1/2 it is a HMOTYC.

If the average rating falls below ***1/2 the person nominating it is probated. If it is below *** they are banned.

However if someone who rates the match is proven to not have seen the match but is attempting to get the nominating party punished, they must be banned.

If they saw the match and rate it more than *** lower than the average rating they will be probated for attempting to have the nominating party punished.

For WMOTYC the line starts at DUD. If the match is th

Accident Underwater
Oct 21, 2005

Gotta give'em hell


MassRafTer posted:

The most logical way to do it is when a match is nominated everyone else on the forum who saw the match must rate it.

If the rating is above ****1/2, it becomes a MOTYC. If the average rating is between **** and ****1/2 it is a HMOTYC.

If the average rating falls below ***1/2 the person nominating it is probated. If it is below *** they are banned.

However if someone who rates the match is proven to not have seen the match but is attempting to get the nominating party punished, they must be banned.

If they saw the match and rate it more than *** lower than the average rating they will be probated for attempting to have the nominating party punished.

For WMOTYC the line starts at DUD. If the match is th

Please send all ratings in the mail to Jerusalem. Include cut outs of the appropriate number of stars. If it's winter send paper snowflakes.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

MassRafTer posted:

The most logical way to do it is when a match is nominated everyone else on the forum who saw the match must rate it.

If the rating is above ****1/2, it becomes a MOTYC. If the average rating is between **** and ****1/2 it is a HMOTYC.

If the average rating falls below ***1/2 the person nominating it is probated. If it is below *** they are banned.

However if someone who rates the match is proven to not have seen the match but is attempting to get the nominating party punished, they must be banned.

If they saw the match and rate it more than *** lower than the average rating they will be probated for attempting to have the nominating party punished.

For WMOTYC the line starts at DUD. If the match is th

It should be class action rules where everyone on the whole forum who sees the match, including people who do not lost in this sub-forum, need to be found and polled by the matches proponents.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004



Fun Shoe

either keep the system as it is, or do all of this

MassRafTer posted:

The most logical way to do it is when a match is nominated everyone else on the forum who saw the match must rate it.

If the rating is above ****1/2, it becomes a MOTYC. If the average rating is between **** and ****1/2 it is a HMOTYC.

If the average rating falls below ***1/2 the person nominating it is probated. If it is below *** they are banned.

However if someone who rates the match is proven to not have seen the match but is attempting to get the nominating party punished, they must be banned.

If they saw the match and rate it more than *** lower than the average rating they will be probated for attempting to have the nominating party punished.

For WMOTYC the line starts at DUD. If the match is th

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012


Or how about we just do a "recommendations" thread since Cagematch lists 95% of the cool matches that happen anyway

https://www.cagematch.net//?id=111&view=list

YourHumbleMessiah
Oct 11, 2005

Monkey don' wan none dis banana



Jenkem Delivery posted:

MOTYC - Great Space War 2018 6 vs 5 Handicap Tag Match - Michinoku Pro Wrestling - 12-21-18

2nd. Hell yeah

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Venomous posted:

Before the thread closes for the new year, I want to give this another mention since Disco just released the match online:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZndfiojDkhI

Didn't translate to tape for me. But still a hot match. Would have marked out live for everything for sure.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012



Jenkem Delivery posted:

MOTYC - Great Space War 2018 6 vs 5 Handicap Tag Match - Michinoku Pro Wrestling - 12-21-18
3rd

Daryl Surat
Apr 6, 2002

I don't care what you say about this post, but if anyone steps on my bunion, I'll kill them!

Jenkem Delivery posted:

MOTYC - Great Space War 2018 6 vs 5 Handicap Tag Match - Michinoku Pro Wrestling - 12-21-18

4th. Sasuke finally kinda sorta connected on the barrel dive. This is the Charlie Brown kicking the football of pro wrestling.

For what it's worth, I rely on this thread for lucha recommendations so by all means keep at it. I generally watch every Dragon Gate tag/trios match, since those are basically always great (and most Dream Gate matches become pretty great too, I guess), so recommendations beyond those are welcome.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Jenkem Delivery posted:

MOTYC - Great Space War 2018 6 vs 5 Handicap Tag Match - Michinoku Pro Wrestling - 12-21-18

Added it to the MOTYC list.

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I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

"Why yes, this is a tie with dollar signs on it.

Jealous?"

MassRafTer posted:

The most logical way to do it is when a match is nominated everyone else on the forum who saw the match must rate it.

If the rating is above ****1/2, it becomes a MOTYC. If the average rating is between **** and ****1/2 it is a HMOTYC.

If the average rating falls below ***1/2 the person nominating it is probated. If it is below *** they are banned.

However if someone who rates the match is proven to not have seen the match but is attempting to get the nominating party punished, they must be banned.

If they saw the match and rate it more than *** lower than the average rating they will be probated for attempting to have the nominating party punished.

For WMOTYC the line starts at DUD. If the match is th

But what if someone gets thrown out of the ring into the electric panel?

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